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AIBU to send this email to my dh

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StarThorn · 11/06/2016 20:26

Ok, so this is what I am considering sending to my dh, we are going through some stuff and the word divorce has been mentioned. So do you think I should send it? I am open to criticism but be gentle with me MNers!

Dear (dh),

I write this to tell you how I'm feeling. The reason why? Because I can't speak to you without fear of judgment.

On a daily basis I feel, exhausted, strung out, depressed and so incredibly lonely. Not just lonely, alone.

And I know what you're thinking - go out and do something about it then! Because it's just that easy isn't it.

I won't tell you about how hard it is to be a full time mum, you'll just see it as some kind of competitive part of me that seems to want to belittle what you do, despite telling you several times how much I appreciate what you do and not being believed or validated.

I know it's extremely difficult juggling two jobs and a home life. I appreciate how hard it is for you to occasionally get up in the night when my body simply won't let me. And, for whatever it's worth, I love you with all my heart. But that doesn't seem to be enough.

That doesn't stop the constant snapping, the lack of affection, the hatred that oozes from you when you see me as just a mum who doesn't have a job and who does nothing because you have to do everything else. Because I know it's not enough for you, you work much harder than I do, you do more hours and you are far less appreciated for it. All I do is look after (ds) you do everything else.

I hate myself on a daily basis for letting you down, for the house being a tip because I didn't get round to doing it due to (ds) being particularly clingy. I hate myself for not having your dinner done for you every night as I once promised, because I've run out of time after trying to tidy and cope with (ds's) tantrums and whatever else the day throws my way. I hate myself for not being polished and dressed, with a full face of makeup, for having turned into a fat ugly woman, for being a let down. I hate myself because I naively thought that I could do it all, and I hate myself for not being able to.

I am not saying this for your sympathy, but as an insight to my life. The one you don't see.

You see, I want to be the best Mum I can. Though they don't tell you when you start that you will feel like giving up living every single day, that you will feel like such a failure every single day, that it's not the cake walk you envisaged. It's downright shit. Not the parenting - creating (ds) is the only thing in my life I have ever achieved and I have to say he is pretty damned perfect. That's not to say I couldn't (theoretically speaking) strangle him some days! Especially at the moment when everything is a battle with him. The smiles, the cuddles, the teaching him something new, watching this little life unfold that's the worthwhile bit, that's the bit that makes you forget how ill you feel without a hint of a break, the snot, dribble, sick and poo on your clothes or in your hair. The constant ache in your back and arms from carrying him all day, and bending over changing nappies, bathing and feeding him, the sheer exhaustion and complete lack of motivation once he's in bed.

They don't tell you that until after you've had them.

And I wouldn't change that for the world (well maybe a break every now and again)

The truth is I am miles from anyone I know, and I know you just think, "go out and make friends". The fact is I can't. The crippling anxiety I feel on a daily basis prevents me from walking to the shop, let alone going out to make friends. When I do muster the courage I am practically shitting myself leaving the house. I dread the neighbours speaking to me, God forbid a stranger. But then you probably see that as my fault, I should just get over it. You did. Well the 25 years with the mental health teams should indicate it's not that easy for me. I know, I know, you made me do it and I just got over everything when I met you. Nope. I just managed to curb enough fear to get through the day. And I'll let you in on a secret - it's not so scary when I'm not on my own, hence me coping ok when I'm out with other people.

You have no idea how much I would love to be like other people. How much I would love to find living easy. But I'm not other people. And as much as this is far from the life you envisaged, the sad fact of the matter is that I have never really been able to picture my future. Maybe because I was convinced for so long that I didn't have one.

So yes, I know I'm not the wife you wanted, or the mother you wanted for your son, but the truth of the matter is I'm doing my best. I'm doing my best just to get through every day. I cry at least three times a day every day. It helps. I can't speak to my mum, despite her being my best friend for so long, because I don't want her to judge. The only person I can trust not to is (bf)

I will never be perfect, in fact I will always be the deeply flawed, awful wife and mother who cares too much what people think, but that's just who I am. I say things that I don't mean when I get upset or feel cornered or attacked, sometimes awful things. Every single negative thing anyone has ever said sticks in my brain and replays on a loop every day, and the positive stuff gets lost in the mess. This is me.

So I understand if you feel you can't be with me, you can't live with me. I understand if you want to be divorced and want nothing to do with me. I understand that you hate me, a little more every day. I know.

For whatever it's worth, I don't regret marrying you, however difficult it is. For whatever it's worth I don't want a divorce and for whatever it's worth, I love you with all my heart.

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AristotleTheGreat · 11/06/2016 22:01

Don't send that. You are giving him a lot of a munitions as to why you are a failure. And I can tell you, you are NOT a failure.
YOu are a SAHM who is struggling, as a lot of others mums have and are. I had PND, I struggled and could have wrote a lot of what you said but now that I am a fair few years down the line, I can see I wasn't a failure at all.

Please, also reconsider working night shifts. When are you planning to SLEEP if you are work during the night and with ds during the day???

AristotleTheGreat · 11/06/2016 22:03

And I didn't see the cringe worthy or the cream of sympathy. I was someone who is desperate and is screaming for help.
But then I have been there so I can probably understand exactely where you are coming from.

BillSykesDog · 11/06/2016 22:08

I agree with clarrrp too. I suffer from depression and anxiety too. I think what a lot of people on this thread are missing is that being the partner of someone suffering those is not a bed of roses either.

You're clearly not well and need some support with that. Talk to your GP. But sending that email blaming your DH for what is an illness beyond his control will not help anybody.

StarThorn · 11/06/2016 22:09

Ok, I probably won't be sending that as I didn't realise it was so cringe and apparently self pitying and unintentionally appearing to be playing for sympathy. My intention was just to get my feeling out there and use it as a starting off point, not as a marriage discussion but you are all right. It does not change how I feel.

The job I have applied for is from 18.00 to 00.00 so I would still get about 3 hours sleep a night (though saying that I get considerably less now) it would be so that dh could give up second job.

Yes, believe it or not I actually always dreamed of staying at home and raising children (I am from an Irish Catholic family so draw your own conclusions). I am just going through a particularly difficult time at the minute (not looking for sympathy just stating fact!! Wink)

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inamess24 · 11/06/2016 22:10

OP, I'd like you to do one thing on Monday morning and book a home appointment with the HV. I would like you to tell her how you are feeling and would like some information on PND. With the surge of hormones still running through your body, I am not surprised that your anxiety, self esteem and mood have taken a nosedive. PND is nothing to be ashamed of, allowing your relationship with your DP and DC to go to ruins without help is.

A new baby is such a massive deal and then you add a change of routine, (maybe) not sleeping through the night or having a baby who does not take naps during the day, it takes it's toll on everyone. Has your effort increased, decreased or wavered? If it has gone down, you may be malnourished or lacking in iron, it's worth checking. Lots of women battle through what they think is them not putting enough effort in but actually they are lacking in certain vitamins or minerals.

Anxiety can be a tricky thing. It can consume you and trying to explain that to people is sometimes impossible. All they can see is someone getting hyperactive and 'silly' over something very trivial. But anxiety can result in shaking, sweating, pulse racing, feeling lightheaded and being hysterical. To everyone else, these are irrational but to the sufferer, the emotions are very real.

There are plenty of people out there to help you. Anxiety is still a new phenomenon and like many 'hidden' illnesses and ailments, to get efficient and fast help, you need to visit a few professionals to get the right one. If you know your GP is a good GP, go visit them. If not, keep going back and try to see a different one each time until you find one. Your HV should know someone you can contact and often know which DR is the best one to approach.

Hopefully you will feel a little better soon. Don't feel too pressured to go to baby groups if you feel going out with your DC on your own is better for you though.

Katyloo77 · 11/06/2016 22:11

I agree with what most are saying, I wouldn't send it either. I have been here, had a successful career and found staying at home very difficult. My son is now 7 and I have stayed focused and appreciate the opportunity to now be at home. A man likes to see a strong woman...which you clearly have been and some can't deal with emotion at all. I now do an open university course which keeps me focused and makes by dh proud of me... If you need some support, go and see a doctor but stay strong and show you DH your a still the strong successful woman he fell in love with. xx

EveryoneElsie · 11/06/2016 22:12

I didnt see you blaming your DH in that letter. I do think you would benefit from a trip to your GP.

At the moment, I dont think you are thinking clearly.
You dont need to be a SAHM all day, then work nights, then manage on 3 hours sleep. Thats not expected of anyone.
Sleep on this. There is another way. You just havent seen it yet.

In future its good to work things out on paper, wait a few days, then go back ad re-read it. Flowers

Draylon · 11/06/2016 22:12

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EllsTeeth · 11/06/2016 22:13

If you're getting less than 3 hours sleep a night love no wonder you're struggling. Sleep deprivation absolutely wrecked my mental health and it's a long, slow process getting it back. Why are you getting so little sleep? Is your son up several times a night? (both of mine were so I know how that feels). My immediate plan of action would be working out how to get more sleep. You cannot underestimate what sleep deprivation does to your mental (and physical) health.

YouAreMyRain · 11/06/2016 22:14

While I totally empathise, and sympathise with you (I have had terrible PND and anxiety and am a SAHM), I think the tone of the email is very self-centred. Presumably your DH is unhappy and feels that he needs to be heard too.

A couple of techniques you could try:
Write him a letter/email completing the following sentences (it's more specific and less about your perceived failings but very focussed on your relationship which may ultimately be more productive)
Dear DH
I'm frightened to tell you that...
I really don't like it when you...
I am really hurt because...
I need you to know that...
What I need from you is...
I need you to understand that...
What I love about you is...
What I never told you is...
I resent it when you...
I really like it when you...
I really don't like when you...

You can add your own sentences or adapt these. You can also give him the outline and get him to complete one to you and then swap them. It would clear the air and encourage emotional intimacy again.

Another technique you could use is the "head-to-head" where you face each other (two chairs facing, no distractions) and set a timer for three minutes. One of you starts (toss a coin?) and that person can say anything they like without interruption for three minutes. Then the other one takes a turn speaking for three minutes BUT the most important rule is that whatever the first person mentions cannot be spoken about until the next head-to-head session the following day, where the other person will speak for three minutes first. They can only respond 24 hrs later, with a cool head and time to reflect. This is done everyday until both of you feel everything has been addressed.

Hjo123 · 11/06/2016 22:20

I have been there. The lack of sleep and PND absolutely did me in, and I didn't begin to feel better until I went back to work and DS went to nursery. It was such a relief to hand DS over to people who knew what they were doing. We were skint for years but it was worth it just to feel human again. Staying at home I felt like my whole life was devoted to looking after other people and nobody was looking after me.

Ledkr · 11/06/2016 22:21

Dear dh.
He's your child too.
I'm struggling.
Man the fuck up and help me.

Griphook · 11/06/2016 22:23

I can get a job and am applying for night work so that I can look after ds in the day when will you sleep?

I've read your letter, and can see reflections of my own life in it, particularly the never ending drudgery of day to day, but what do you want your dh to do when he read it? What sort of reaction do you want from him? Or do you have any practical ideas on how your dh can support you? Do you want him to not complain about the mess? (Completely reasonable) not complain about dinner? Or do you want him to do more? Seeing as he works 2 jobs in sure if he can.

I think you have a lot of emotional pain, and you really need to try to work though your aniexty. Are you on any medication for anxiety?

runningincircles12 · 11/06/2016 22:36

OK, don't get a job where you will only get 3 hours sleep. That is nowhere near enough and if you are getting less than that now, it explains why your are feeling like you are.

I wouldn't send the email either. It almost reads like one of those 'open letters' on facebook. I am sure it was not intended to sound like that but it would be better if you went to counselling and you were able to voice those feelings directly to DH.

Also, would it be possible for you to get some help with cleaning, maybe a couple of hours a week? Obviously I appreciate that you may not have the money to spare if DH is already working 2 jobs, but I think it might ease a little bit of pressure. Also, you might want to try things like bulk-cooking where you cook and freeze food and then heat up. Buy time-saver foods like chopped frozen onions (it sounds stupid but pre-cut frozen veg saves a lot of time).

But first and foremost I think you need to talk openly and honestly with DH, whether in counselling or not and you also need to see your GP who might be able to prescribe therapy or medication. Good luck.

Comtesse · 11/06/2016 22:38

The night working is a poor idea I think. Yes see the GP or HV if you know a good one. Fixing your sleep will help a lot with energy levels obv. Sorry you are feeling so low.

LuckyBuddha · 11/06/2016 22:39

You need to stop being hard on yourself. What you have described is how many women on maternity leave or that choose to stay at home feel... It's a weird feeling as you love being with your child but they dominate all your time and some days nothing else gets done! You are not the only one feeling like this... It can be hard to for the most confident mum to muster up the confidence to go to a toddler group or something but I d always found that once I got there and talked to a few people each week I felt better. Go see your go, talk to your mum and your husband. Life is too short and you deserve to be happy! Also is night work going to add to the problem??? Could you work part time in your old field and place your dc in childcare a couple of days a week to do this? I dreaded going back to work but was so glad I did as it gave me so much confidence, it wasn't always easy but it gave me a break from my child and reminded me I could do the job I had trained for. Good luck xxx

FATEdestiny · 11/06/2016 22:43

Why can't you work in the daytime and put DS in childcare?

I'm sorry, you do sound all Woe Is Me. I think that is the anxiety or depression speaking, not you

noodlepixie · 11/06/2016 23:06

Star I don't want to diminish the advice you had here, even though some may seem harsh, but likely wise. My personal opinion is that your message is not self pitying or looking for sympathy, but you are at the end of your tether and desperate for help. I am not saying you should necessarily send the email as that is your decision to make and obviously we don't know your dh, I just think you should take a few days to gather your thoughts if possible, reflect, and please get help. You sound lovely Flowers Also, isn't this what MN is partly here for?? To test the waters before we commit?

StarThorn · 11/06/2016 23:06

Thank you, so many of you are really lovely.
YouAreMyRain thank you, there is some excellent advice there and I will see if dh is open to trying it. Thanks to everyone for your advice Star

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StarThorn · 11/06/2016 23:12

Thanks noodle that was where my head was whilst writing, I in no way intended to be looking for sympathy, I was rather embarrassed when I realised so many people think I am Blush
I do feel very much at the end of my tether at times! The reason I posted it was to genuinely get feedback on whether it was a good idea to send it. I will hold off and give it some more thought.

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noodlepixie · 11/06/2016 23:28

I think YouAreMyRain has a good idea. Although I totally sympathise with you, the phrases Rain has used could be incredibly useful. I don't think you are being judgey personally, but he may feel attacked so it might help to talk about you feel and what you need. I hope that makes sense.

She/he sounds like a clever soul and it could be a good idea. Best of luck to you Flowers

A11TheSmallTh1ngs · 11/06/2016 23:38

Wow, I don't think it's trawling for sympathy at all. I think it's sharing true feelings. BUT it's hard to read and determine what is your anxiety and what is your DH. If I were your DH I would be MASSIVELY DEFENSIVE reading this because I would assume you are blaming me for all of it.

And Do you really think he hates you? If not, please god don't write it. If yes, that would really be the main question I'd be asking. I mean, if he hates you, all the paragraphs about anxiety are besides the point.

clarrrp · 12/06/2016 00:21

Ok, I probably won't be sending that as I didn't realise it was so cringe and apparently self pitying and unintentionally appearing to be playing for sympathy. My intention was just to get my feeling out there and use it as a starting off point, not as a marriage discussion but you are all right. It does not change how I feel.

Hey, it's GOOD that you put it all down on paper. It means your can look at it and assess how you feel about it.

EllsTeeth · 12/06/2016 08:27

How are you feeling this morning OP? I hope you've had a bit of sleep at least Brew

harshbuttrue1980 · 12/06/2016 09:33

This is going to sound horrible, but why are you deliberately choosing to apply for a job that means you will get 3 hours sleep? Are you hoping that your DH will see you struggle and be a martyr and tell you that it's all OK, you can pack it in and stay at home??
Why don't you get a job in the daytime and use childcare, so you can get the sleep you need? It's perfectly possible to be a working mum, and it's silly if you're choosing the most unrealistic scenario to show your DH that working motherhood doesn't work, when millions of mums have to work.
I know you say that you always wanted to be a SAHM. Loads of us would love to have husbands who are rich enough that we never have to work again - but that isn't life. Your DH clearly can't afford to keep you if he's having to work two jobs so you can have no job. If he wrote a letter to you like the one you wrote on here, it would probably say, "dear wife, I'm struggling to pay all of the bills with two jobs while you stay at home - please help!".

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