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AIBU to be incredibly bothered by neighbours complaint?

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user1465383488 · 08/06/2016 12:37

We have lived in our house very happily for the last thirteen years. For the last five years we have been living next to very fussy neighbours. A couple in their thirties,No kids,no pets ,she does yoga in her garden,bakes from home and cycles around in an old fashioned big wheeled bike with a basket full of fresh bread and flowers.He works all day and seems very quiet. A perfect couple I guess.
We have six children here aged between 8 months and 13 years. The eldest two have special needs (autism /mobility problems)
We've always been super aware of not making noise to annoy anyone . The kids with the SN are in the furthest side of the house so occasional meltdowns have at least four or five walls between them and the neighbours.
Problems started three years ago when she knocked to say one of our dogs barked when I left her to do the school run and disturbed their breakfast . I was apologetic and took steps to stop that..training,plug ins,radio, recorded her etc and it stopped.
Then a few months later she hung out of her window on two mornings shouting at us for closing our gate too loud at 8.45am waking her up as she..and I quote " goes to bed late and has every right to sleep in with her windows wide open and not be disturbed" .
She made my then 8 year old cry and the kids creep out paranoid every morning to the car not daring to even speak.
Then we were putting a small patch of decking down and using a small battery drill to screw the planks in at 6 pm on a Saturday.She pops her head over asking if we could stop as they wanted to have dinner in the garden . And we did 😐
Next week she pops over again asking if we could keep our voices down as she was reading when it was just me,hubby and the two eldest out on the patio planting flowers.
Since then I've been paranoid. I dont let the kids play outside before 10 am or after 6.30 ish. If they're stupidly noisy they get brought in,I took the trampoline down because the neighbour moaned.We don't ever play music, the youngest kids are all in bed before 8 and the big three are quiet then and there's never any noise overnight. I don't ever open our bedroom window incase the baby cries through the night as the neighbours Window next to our room is wide open.
I stand out with the dogs in the morning and night so they don't bark and during the day if they start barking they're called in.When I go out they're in the far side of the house .
I "thought" we were being pretty considerate.
Apparently not.
Last weekend whilst the kids were in the paddling pool playing and actually being pretty quiet tbh both of them flew to the fence and started screaming about how we were ruining their lives, she sits crying at the noise we make. We have no consideration and should be ashamed of ourselves as parents etc. They went completely nuts and I told them we did our best but they didn't believe me, hubby at this point stood up and told them to back off as our kids were watching.
Since then my autistic son hasn't slept, he won't go outside. I am paranoid beyond belief. I won't even let the kids go into the two rooms on the neighbours side in the morning and am making them eat their breakfast in a different room 😐 I'm constantly shhhhhhing and trying to stop my 3 and 4 year olds running around all day and I can't face even letting the little ones play or my dogs outside. I'm even getting hubby to leave work to do the school runs whenever I can so I don't have to leave the dogs incase they bark.
It's causing great stress with me and hubby who thinks we should just ignore them and carry on our lives as we were. He is furious I'm so bothered what they think . I really don't know what to do !

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Castieldeansam · 09/06/2016 20:57

Haven't read all the posts, but you are a family, you need to live like one and let your kids have a childhood, not let some uptight arses dictate how you should live. Stop bending over backwards, it doesn't sound like it's appreciated. Do what you need to do for your family, when you need to do it. Tell the kids you are no longer bending over backwards, and they can have fun, to a level your happy at, everyone has to tell their kids to be quiet every now and then.

OfficiallyUnofficial · 09/06/2016 20:58

I hated her before you got past "big bike filled with flowers and freshly baked bread"

IFinishedTheBiscuits · 09/06/2016 21:01

YANBU they are a pair of pointless childless morons

Hmm

On behalf of my friends who've not been able to have kids, ouch...

DanyellasDonkey · 09/06/2016 21:05

I had a similar situation. Neighbours complained about everything. To start with, the woman shouted abuse in my daughter's face because our cat was sitting on the pavement in front of their house. Since then we have had mountains of fag ends dropped in front of our house, washing lines cut (I could go on and on).

I wish I had reported her to the police the very first time she did anything but wanted to get on with my neighbours as I feel that would have nipped it in the bud. Now, 3 years later we totally ignore them as there is no point getting into a discussion with them.

Fuckwits of the highest order

RestlessTraveller · 09/06/2016 21:07

Childless Morons WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK?

Since when is 'childless' an insult?

My2favboys · 09/06/2016 21:17

I feel for you and your children having to live like this. Please try not to worry! remember this is their issue not yours. Let your children run, laugh and eat where they like. It's not like you're out at 3 or 5 in the morning making noise

PerspicaciaTick · 09/06/2016 21:25

Restless - "childless" is descriptive, "morons" is the insult.
As in "tall morons", "humourless morons", "bendy, yoga morons".

SquidgeyMidgey · 09/06/2016 21:25

If not, Metallica at volume 11, followed by Lou Reed's album "Hudson River Wind Meditations" on loop

And a chuffing great bonfire.

How dare they behave this way towards you. I can't get over the 'but the other noisy family are a decent family so their racket is ok' comment. I'm so cross on your behalf. I agree with the event diary, it is harassment. Sounds like they need to go and live on the moon, it might be quiet enough for them.

Lizzie101 · 09/06/2016 21:30

Ok, I know a bit about Psychology and feel these two are suffering from scope creep. The more you give in to them the more they feel vindicated and believe they are correct. Unfortunately it is not possible to keep children and animals completely quiet. I would politely explain that noise levels are not excessive and that you will endeavour to be quiet before 7.30( or another appropriate time ) and after 8 ( or alternative time ) in the evening. I would explain that it is impossible to keep children completely quiet and the garden is for them to run around and let off a bit of steam. I would ask them to be more tolerant and let them know their complaints are leading to stress. Provided you are reasonable ,go back to living life as before. You could record noise levels for yourself for future reference and just in case things take a turn for the worse. Don't stoop to their level.try to keep communication channels open but some people can not compromise and need to be reined in.

RestlessTraveller · 09/06/2016 21:37

Perspicacia thanks for the English lesson, however when 'childless' is sandwiched between 'pointless' and 'morons' I think the intent is obvious.

belgina · 09/06/2016 21:45

My son suggestion would be Björk "oh so quiet" Grin

OP, your neighbour is the unreasonable one. I agree with the letter suggestion and with additions the accommodations you have made.

We live somewhere really quiet: countryside village edge, far enough from farms to only have the tractor enter the field behind us occasionally. But it still has its noise. Birds wake up stupidly early & therefore I sleep with my window closed.

Jussa1347 · 09/06/2016 21:49

I think your neighbours are harassing you and being totally unreasonable.... Would you like to swap houses for a week..... Trust me with the noise id make they would be greeting you with open arms on your return. You should live your life, let your kids be kids and from 8.00 am until 10.00 pm live your lives and if that involves singing, talking, barking, laughing, doors closing the so be it.

mylifestory · 09/06/2016 22:01

make your noise rise to a normal level gradually. if they complain which im sure they will, be very nice but tell them to call the council or the police if a bit of life offends them. always say this in the nicest way possible. add that they live in London and not in the middle of a field in the country!!

user1465383488 · 09/06/2016 22:08

thedogdaysareover

" I think the neighbour seems bitter as fuq about having landed in a council estate (no offence OP, I am from a council estate myself, and fairly indecent) when in her mind she should be picking olives on her estate in Tuscany. Nothing grips my shit MORE than airy fairy warty types on Dutch bikes who are as viscous and inflexible as workhouse nuns. Gah if you need me to come round and punch her in the throat please lemme know. I joke, of course. wine"

Not council so can't be that. We all own our own homes on a tree lined street , we live in 1930 nice (thick walled) big houses with lovely gardens . Without meaning to sound snobby hubby is a high level manager and drives a new nice car, I do too, the house is clean,tidy and we never have parties and we don't even swear in front of the kids !. Hell me and hubby haven't had a night out together for over 6 years ..and only three times in 13 years. So really I don't get their issue with us not being decent 😣

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londonmummy1966 · 09/06/2016 22:17

Tell the stupid woman that you are in future only going to listen to complaints made by your other neighbours because they are decent people and haven't made any.

Then try and find a local brass teacher to come and teach all of your dcs - 2 trumpets 2 trombones a french horn and a tuba being practiced on a daily basis (with electric guitar and drum kit as second instruments) should put her nicely in her box......

littledrummergirl · 09/06/2016 22:34

Trampoline, water fights, pool, drum kit, trumpet.
A non birthday party every 3 weekends in the afternoon with all of your noisier friends.

bloody postman pat on full volume every day for a month at 0630 might be a step too far.

They are fucking bullies who are spoiling your families enjoyment of their home.

Flowers
WrinkledlikeAudrey · 09/06/2016 22:38

I have worked as noise control officer for number of Councils over many years. I do not think from your description your family is causing noise nuisance. Carry on living a normal family life. Neighbours sound self righteous and not at all reasonable.

Thingamajiggy · 09/06/2016 22:40

I can imagine how you're feeling as I am also super sensitive and hate being in conflict with people. You have a right to live your life without being in a constant state of stress because of neurotic neighbours and your kids have a right to be kids and make a little noise. As long as you're generally considerate and it's clear that you are, you need to put these ghastly people out of your mind and just get on with life.

Closing the gate at 8.45 is totally reasonable and anyone who flies off the handle over that is clearly unbalanced. I've had our neighbours arguing, having sex, getting locked out at 4am etc and because it's not all the time, I just accept it as part of life. Dogs bark, cats flight, couples row, kids play, people open and close gates, WHF is wrong with these people? If they want to silence they'll need to move to the countryside.

They're lucky they don't live next us as we're terrible for yelling between rooms!

Your husband is right, try to let it go. Get on with your life and definitely don't let it come between you.

Make a note of any more abusive incidents and report them to the police. Do you have neighbours on the other side that would back you up?

aquashiv · 09/06/2016 22:44

I would speak to a PCSO and let them have a word with her about your rights and the legal stand points over noise. I do not think she is going to back off with her expensive ears.

KittyKrap · 09/06/2016 22:47

YY to Rammstein!

Also, to the 'childless morons' comment. I never had much to do with my old neighbour when I moved in, I had very young children and I 'assumed' that she looked down on me as she worked. Turns out she'd had mutilple miscarriages I only knew about when she carried her baby son. We were friends ever since.

It's not your noise, it's your neighbours problem.

MumsTheWordYouKnow · 09/06/2016 22:47

This neighbour sounds like she has issues. This does not sound like normal behaviour. Perhaps bear that in mind, but calmly explain you've been more than accommodating and in fact too accommodating.

kittybiscuits · 09/06/2016 22:49

Another vote for Rammstein. Neighbour will love Grin

Summerwood1 · 09/06/2016 22:51

Ignore them, children do make noise. If there're not happy they can move.

IFinishedTheBiscuits · 09/06/2016 23:06

Restless I think it was the pointless/childless connection that upset me even more than childless/morons!

trappedinsuburbia · 09/06/2016 23:08

Are you really going to miss out on some lovely family barbecues in the evenings and the kids splashing around in a paddling pool?
They would have a breakdown living in my street and its a 'nice' cul de sac. The kids play out till 9 or 10pm on the weekend and when its nice theres always one of the houses having a party or barbecue and they stay outdoors where you can hear them (gasp) until its cold.
Sometimes there are even very loud arguments (clutches pearls) when theres been a bit too much alcohol consumed.
No one bats an eyelid really, its called LIFE!!