Another buggy in wheelchair space thread

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I got on the bus at the same time as a wheelchair user was queuing to do so. The driver told the wheelchair user there wasn't room, so I quickly checked and saw it was a buggy and a shopping trolley in the space.

The driver told the wheelchair user there would be another bus in a few minutes and they didn't seem to mind and weren't particularly insistent about getting on.

Was I being unreasonable to step in at this point and tell the driver that the person with the buggy should get off as wheelchairs have priority? He was pretty annoyed when I did, and kept repeating that there wasn't space.

I'm in London, and there are clear signs on every bus stating this is the case. I've often had to get off a bus when a wheelchair needed to get on and would never question if asked to do so.

Would it also be unreasonable for me to complain to TFL? I know I'm being a busy body but the driver's attitude really irritated me! I'd like the mumsnet jury to help me decide what to do, if anything.

TheTart perhaps the people on the bus could have helped you instead of "sticking up" for you. What selfish specimens.

I am really quite sickened that you say "although I am not physically disabled" and say you were in a position where you couldn't physically do something. How dare you? A person with paraplegia physically cannot walk. People like you make me hate the world sometimes.

Why can't you sit and hold your newborns?! Stop making excuses about what is and isn't fair. It's a wheelchair space.

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/am_i_being_unreasonable/2648649-To-be-fed-up-of-feeling-like-Im-a-second-class-member-of-society?watched=1&msgid=61499133#61499133

It's 2016 and the attitude to the disabled is disgusting still.

I'd have got off bc that's the rules.

So not out of any sense of decency or compassion or empathy then?

Tart you coukd have moved the bags, you could have held the baby and put a toddler on a seat. It would have been annoying, difficult and a right pain in the arse. But it was physically possible. Getting a non weight baring disabled person on a bus seat to fold their chair. That's physically impossible.

I had baby twins at one point in London. Unless someone was able to help me hold one, I could not have collapsed the buggy. It never happened to me but I could not understand why I should have to get off a bus I was already on. Of course if people were able to accomodate (hold the newborns whilst I collapsed and reassembled the buggy I would do so).

Yes they should have given you a ticket, but you could have coped.

The space is only there because of disability campaigners.

It's a wheelchair space.
It's a wheelchair space
It's a wheelchair space.
It's a wheelchair space.

It's simple Tart. It's because they are disabled. As simple as that. It's a disabled space. It's not a pushchair space.

Yes, I've looked after 2 newborns at once. I was a nanny. If you can't hold them while seated on a bus seat, how the hell do you even get out of the house?

Theydidit, the person using a wheelchair doesn't have more right to be on a bus than a person with a buggy, they have more right to use the wheelchair space. Because it's a wheelchair space.

i have already said up thread that buggys should be folded for a wheel chair user. but i do understand people with more than one baby would find that very hard. its not always easy/possible to ask for help. not happend to me in a long time but when asked to fold a pram. there are looks tutting because the bus is being held up. so all this tutting and looks but not one offer of help.

Disability is a protected class. Having twins isn't.

I have bipolar and asd so I actually have a disability although not a physical one. That's what I was differentiating by using the word. There were 3 other people on the bus and I'm sorry but I would hand my newborn or toddler to a stranger, not even for a second and especially not in London.

ghost I understand your sentiment. Nobody is saying its easy. This is mumsnet, we are parents. Apparently people are more likely to stick up for a mum's right to use a wheelchair space than help her. I cannot imagine sitting arguing for her "right", when they could be helping her and the other person but people are selfish and self serving.

It isn't a disability space. It's a WHEELCHAIR space.

purple so 2 new borns in arms. how do you fold the buggy? and then unfold once of the bus.

Surely you could ask a kind stranger? I said up thread that if it were me, I'd help you.

Your children will grow and please God, walk and be healthy. Other people's children will not hence why the law protects them.

*wouldnt

Though as I said previously, I wish buses had more spaces for both. Surely there's enough of both parents and disabled that both should have spaces?

When my children were babies and toddlers in prams, I walked everywhere. Even the hour walk into town. Why? Because I wasn't selfish and entitled.

Now that I need to use a wheelchair on bad days, I still don't use the bus because they're always full of entitled whiners with buggies.