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To get into a fight with my best friend over my au pair?

159 replies

fijennin · 04/06/2016 13:15

I've had the said au pair for a long time, and she really is like a part of the family. I am a single parent and have one DD and she is 3,5. The AP is absolutely brilliant and fantastic, and I wouldn't doubt her judgement for a second.

DD is off nursery for the week and AP has had her for full days (all paid for extra).
Au pair was sick on Wednesday night, poor thing was throwing up and was just really unwell. My best friend, who is also DD's god mother, offered to take DD out for the next day (Thursday) as she had time off work and wanted to see her. She has her own keys to our house. She also has two older kids who are staying at grandparents for the week.

Now, the situation as told by my BF - She walked into the house only to find the AP asleep in her bedroom, with DD in the living room on her own eating fruit and watching telly. She said she was horrified, and couldn't believe how irresponsible my au pair is, to leave a toddler watching tv on her own. She said she walked into the APs room to confront her and all AP did was keep her mouth shut and then my BF took my DD and left.

NOW THE AP SIDE - DD woke up 7 am (I'm out of the house by 6.30), she got up, gave her breakfast, gave her a shower, washed and dried her hair, got her dressed, and by the time all that was done it was already 9. She cut up an apple, a banana, watermelon and left some raisins on the coffee table along with DD's water bottle and put on a cartoon and went to lie back down as she was still feeling really ill. at about 9.30 my BF walked in and shouted at her - calling her a disgrace and a bad au pair, an irresponsible brat and lazy teenager, saying she'll never ever let her babysit her DC again (ap babysits for extra cash) and that she'll make sure to tell me and everyone else what happened so they would never leave her children alone with someone who thinks it's okay to sleep during their working hours leaving a three year old unattended. AP said she was in shock and couldn't believe she was being such a bitch to her. as soon as they left AP called me to say what has happened and cried on the phone.

Few facts - 1.AP's bedroom door lead straight into the living room. her bed is positioned so that if her door is open she can see the sofa in the living room. Her doors were open.

  1. DD is a really calm child, and rarely gets tv time. so when she does get to watch tv, she will sit quietly and watch.
  2. AP is the type of person that jumps out of her bed in the middle of the night straight away if she hears DD crying. I don't doubt for a second that even the slightest whine from DD would have her sprinting to the living room to check on her.

When I called my BF to ask if what AP said was true her response was - ''WELL OF COURSE IT IS!!! How can you leave your child with someone stupid enough to think it's okay to leave a toddler alone while she sleeps! the lazy cow (and a lot of other things and name calling)!'' to which I completely lost it and told her to fuck off. I would've done the same thing if it was me in the position, and if DD was sorted out completely why wouldn't she lie down. anyways we got into a very heated argument and said a lot of things, and I think she was completely out of line and told her not to talk to me if she's gonna go batshit crazy over something that doesn't concern her. some other mutual friends of ours said that BF was right, and AP shouldn't have done that and that I shouldn't have picked the AP's side in this. I'm still sticking to believing that my BF is wrong in this scenario and didn't have to right to insult and make my au pair feel bad over something that I support.

Opinions now, am I really being unreasonable with this? Should I have taken my best friend's side and had a chat with ap about responsibility (like several people have told me I should've). Or am I right to stick by my au pair in this?

The ap really is amazing. I even asked her if she wanted the day off if she was sick and she turned it down, saying she can manage for a few hours until the BF arrives. sorry for the long post!

OP posts:
captainproton · 05/06/2016 15:05

When will I let my children eat alone? I guess when I know they won't try to hare about the place with Apple in their mouths. I might as well talk to a brick wall some days in this regard. But once they can sit and eat sensibly I will be more relaxed.

MerryMarigold · 05/06/2016 15:11

And if the child who is still not 4 choked silently nobody would notice

Lweji, maybe your sensibleness is on half term!
The odds of a not 4 yr old choking are very slim. The odds of that happening silently are even more astronomical. I'm probably more likely to win the lottery rollover, but I don't play it 'just in case' cos I'm sensible like that!

prettybird · 05/06/2016 15:35

The OP has both pointed out that the AP's room opens onto the living room and that, with the door open, she had a line of sight to the sofa

....and later, and even more relevantly, the best friend admitted that the AP's eyes were open when she went in.

So it really does sound like the bf has it in for the AP and was determined to assume the worst maybe because of the time she unreasonably stopped out all night without notice and tried to take advantage of her Hmm

The AP knew that the bf was coming round to pick up the OP's dd so there was no need for her to jump up when she let herself in.

Re the risk of choking, the OP has also said that her dd will have enjoyed the opportunity to sit and watch TV. - so it's highly unlikely that a nearly 4 year old will have been engaged in activities which increase the likelihood of choking on already cut up fruit.

AHellOfABird · 05/06/2016 15:38

If the BF had gone off on one about choking risk, perhaps because of personal experiences, that would still be out of order but more understandable. Instead she's insulted someone else,s employee and called her lazy etc in a completely unfair way.

WanderingNotLost · 05/06/2016 15:48

I'd maybe have a word about the food, but since the door was open and she was watching your DD the danger was minimal. Your 'friend' needs to chill the fuck out.

lotbyname · 05/06/2016 17:28

I thought your friend might have a point until I read that her bed was in sight of the child the whole time...

I do wonder how some people manage to let thier child sleep another room at night sometimes!

SnowBells · 05/06/2016 17:54

CassandraAusten

Why on Earth do you want OP to remain friends with a bitch like her (former) BF? My mum had similar poisonous close friends and a few years ago, she turned her back on them... and has never been happier!!! These were people she was friends with for decades (us kids grew up together like cousins, but haven't really remained in touch).

Seriously, people. There are billions of people on the planet. Plenty to choose your "BF" from. If one is nasty, drop them.

Lweji

The BF has admitted the AP's eyes were open. Period.

IrritableBitchSyndrome · 05/06/2016 18:17

I'm on Team AP. If you sack her, can I have her? :)

clarehhh · 05/06/2016 18:38

Sounds fine to me just what you would do yourself except for unsupervised eating especially apple had a 3 year old in my class choke silently and was very scary, even with lots of us first aid trained.

Lweji · 05/06/2016 18:51

The BF has admitted the AP's eyes were open. Period.

Yes, I had missed that. Ignore what I said about sleeping. (I was just following comments about her being or not asleep and had forgotten that bit )

I am still right that it's not a good idea to leave a 3 year old alone eating without any supervision (whenever that's the case), particularly when it's part of your job. :) It just didn't quite happen in this case. Apparently (if we assume the AP didn't wake up when friend came in)

Lweji · 05/06/2016 18:52

Regarding the AP, I never said she should be sacked or that it was a major thing, or that it warranted the friend's wrath. Just that I'd ask her not to do it again (if that had been the case).
For the record.

stickystick · 05/06/2016 19:09

Just out of curiosity, what nationality is your au pair? And how did you find her?

RaspberryOverload · 05/06/2016 19:16

AugustaFinkNottle Sun 05-Jun-16 12:11:46
The mutual friends will of course support best friend, because she's telling them the au pair was fast asleep. I wonder if they change their tune on hearing the other side of the story?

Sadly, I think this is unlikely. It's not for nothing people get urged to "get their story in first".

I've noticed time and again that unless there's hard evidence to dispute the story told by the first person to speak out about an issue, the second person is often not really believed, even if they are telling the truth.

Lindy2 · 05/06/2016 19:23

Your friend is overstepping the boundaries. Your DD and your AP are not her responsibility. If you are happy and trust your AP then trust your own instincts.
I'd be happy with the APs version of events. I'd not be happy with a friend letting themselves into my house!

SnowBells · 05/06/2016 19:23

Lweji

Did your mum watch you 24/7 aged 3 - even eating? Hardly any mother did back when I was little. That is a new thing. As you can see from other people's posts above, it's actually quite rare for a child to choke to death...

CassandraAusten · 05/06/2016 19:28

Snowbells

It is her best friend, not just any old friend. And DD's godmother too. And the fight isn't even really between them, it's between BF and AP. Personally I wouldn't want to lose a long standing friendship over this.

RaspberryOverload · 05/06/2016 19:29

The only person I've ever come across in over 47 years on the planet who was actually choking .... is me!

I was choking on a pea when about 40, and DP had to slap my back hard enough to bruise to dislodge it.

I've met loads of people and still haven't been in the vicinity of anyone else choking, so I reckon that if the AP had her eyes open while lying down and the child was visible then I can't see any dereliction of duty here. I'd do the same.

Lweji · 05/06/2016 19:30

Did your mum watch you 24/7 aged 3 - even eating

Now, that is a silly question. How would I know?

And when I was younger I didn't use a seat belt and was put to sleep on my front. What does that prove?

I also didn't say the child needs to be watched like a hawk, only that it's better if an alert adult is around. You are the ones saying the child should be fully monitored.

Lweji · 05/06/2016 19:32

Or rather, You are the ones arguing about the child being fully monitored.
Clearly someone's up for an argument. :)

Shadow1986 · 05/06/2016 19:34

I don't like the sound of your DD eating fruit unattended, what if she choked. Did your AP know your BF was coming to collect her, if so, why didn't she just wait to sleep when DD was gone?

I don't think it was your BFs place to shout at your AP, but I equally don't agree with the 3.5 year old being left alone, especially while eating.

GeorgeTheThird · 05/06/2016 19:35

Your AP sounds great. I'd get my keys back from the other woman, she sounds like a loon.

Becky546 · 05/06/2016 19:39

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Kathandkim1 · 05/06/2016 19:39

The Au Pair is not the mother. If the OP thought the AP was too ill to take care of her DD then surely she should have taken the initiative and insisted she had the day off.

Primaryteach87 · 05/06/2016 20:25

Well according to your friend my DC should probably be taken into care! We're only human beings. I'm at home full time at the moment and also had horrendous morning sickness recently (being sick 6+ times a day). I've done the same as your AP and left my son playing happily in earshot whilst I was being sick! I didn't even worry at all.

I think your friend should mind her own business!

Unicorntrainer · 05/06/2016 22:01

If you are I'll, you are ill! Fact! And sometimes we are ill beyond our control and need to lie down. And prob better to distance herself from your DC so she didn't pass her horrible bug on to her.
Your BF had no right to speak to her like that, if she had concerns she should have reported them to you privately. Your AP sounds like a gem. Let your friend come crawling to you, YANBU, and she should apologise massively to your AP. Hope she is feeling better

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