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To get into a fight with my best friend over my au pair?

159 replies

fijennin · 04/06/2016 13:15

I've had the said au pair for a long time, and she really is like a part of the family. I am a single parent and have one DD and she is 3,5. The AP is absolutely brilliant and fantastic, and I wouldn't doubt her judgement for a second.

DD is off nursery for the week and AP has had her for full days (all paid for extra).
Au pair was sick on Wednesday night, poor thing was throwing up and was just really unwell. My best friend, who is also DD's god mother, offered to take DD out for the next day (Thursday) as she had time off work and wanted to see her. She has her own keys to our house. She also has two older kids who are staying at grandparents for the week.

Now, the situation as told by my BF - She walked into the house only to find the AP asleep in her bedroom, with DD in the living room on her own eating fruit and watching telly. She said she was horrified, and couldn't believe how irresponsible my au pair is, to leave a toddler watching tv on her own. She said she walked into the APs room to confront her and all AP did was keep her mouth shut and then my BF took my DD and left.

NOW THE AP SIDE - DD woke up 7 am (I'm out of the house by 6.30), she got up, gave her breakfast, gave her a shower, washed and dried her hair, got her dressed, and by the time all that was done it was already 9. She cut up an apple, a banana, watermelon and left some raisins on the coffee table along with DD's water bottle and put on a cartoon and went to lie back down as she was still feeling really ill. at about 9.30 my BF walked in and shouted at her - calling her a disgrace and a bad au pair, an irresponsible brat and lazy teenager, saying she'll never ever let her babysit her DC again (ap babysits for extra cash) and that she'll make sure to tell me and everyone else what happened so they would never leave her children alone with someone who thinks it's okay to sleep during their working hours leaving a three year old unattended. AP said she was in shock and couldn't believe she was being such a bitch to her. as soon as they left AP called me to say what has happened and cried on the phone.

Few facts - 1.AP's bedroom door lead straight into the living room. her bed is positioned so that if her door is open she can see the sofa in the living room. Her doors were open.

  1. DD is a really calm child, and rarely gets tv time. so when she does get to watch tv, she will sit quietly and watch.
  2. AP is the type of person that jumps out of her bed in the middle of the night straight away if she hears DD crying. I don't doubt for a second that even the slightest whine from DD would have her sprinting to the living room to check on her.

When I called my BF to ask if what AP said was true her response was - ''WELL OF COURSE IT IS!!! How can you leave your child with someone stupid enough to think it's okay to leave a toddler alone while she sleeps! the lazy cow (and a lot of other things and name calling)!'' to which I completely lost it and told her to fuck off. I would've done the same thing if it was me in the position, and if DD was sorted out completely why wouldn't she lie down. anyways we got into a very heated argument and said a lot of things, and I think she was completely out of line and told her not to talk to me if she's gonna go batshit crazy over something that doesn't concern her. some other mutual friends of ours said that BF was right, and AP shouldn't have done that and that I shouldn't have picked the AP's side in this. I'm still sticking to believing that my BF is wrong in this scenario and didn't have to right to insult and make my au pair feel bad over something that I support.

Opinions now, am I really being unreasonable with this? Should I have taken my best friend's side and had a chat with ap about responsibility (like several people have told me I should've). Or am I right to stick by my au pair in this?

The ap really is amazing. I even asked her if she wanted the day off if she was sick and she turned it down, saying she can manage for a few hours until the BF arrives. sorry for the long post!

OP posts:
MerryMarigold · 04/06/2016 17:23

Lweji, you're usually really sensible but: Quite different from a 3 year old alone in the home. Shock

a) She is 3.5 ie. nearly 4
b) She was not home alone. She was in the next room with doors open and AP lying down (not sleeping)

StrictlyMumDancing · 04/06/2016 17:37

Sounds like your BF has a major problem with your AP. Is she jealous you have one maybe?

RosieSW · 04/06/2016 17:50

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Atenco · 04/06/2016 17:51

Well done, OP, for sticking up for your au pair.

People seem to be getting more and more extreme, worrying about protecting small children. I don't say we shouldn't protect them, but only 30 years ago when my dd was small, the most normal thing in the world was for two years to be left to watch early morning television while their parents had a sleep in.

prettybird · 04/06/2016 18:20

Even 13-14 years ago WinkBlush

Lweji · 04/06/2016 18:34

Lweji, you're usually really sensible
I am. :)
And if the child who is still not 4 choked silently nobody would notice, unless the AP could guarantee that she really watching all the time and not dozing off.

Lovewineandchocs · 04/06/2016 18:47

marynary
No one said anything about "demanding" an apology. I'm just saying that I would tell the FB calmly that I believe an apology is owed to the AP for having spoken to her like that. It's up to the BF whether she agrees or not. Sounds like she has form for being a bitch towards this AP and that the OP isn't that interested in saving the friendship so in that case it isn't in anyone's interests to let it just "blow over".

Lovewineandchocs · 04/06/2016 18:47

*BF even

SymphonyofShadows · 04/06/2016 19:30

I bet BF is the sort of person who talks down to staff in restaurants too.

allowlsthinkalot · 04/06/2016 19:41

Do none of you allow your four year olds to eat anything in another room? My four year old can help herself to fruit.

tinyterrors · 04/06/2016 20:13

Your au pair sounds fab. I'd be backing her in this situation. I'd judge the au pair's actions by what I'd do of I was that ill.

I would, and have, done similar when ill. Last half term I had flu and could barely crawl from bed to bathroom, dh couldn't get time off so he made them a picnic breakfast of fruit and cereal bars and left it in the fridge, my 8yo brought it up and the dcs (8, 5 and 3) ate it on the floor in their room while I was half asleep in bed. They were fine, in fact they loved the unlimited tele time all holiday and the picnics every day.

You bf sounds nuts tbh. Fair enough to let you know incase the au pair just had a cold and was taking the piss, but the ranting, shouting and name calling is way ott and I'd have told her to get to fuck too.

RavioliOnToast · 04/06/2016 20:43

Allow I actually don't let my DD eat out of my sight, if she is eating fruit I always make her put it down while I nip for a wee etc. It's just not worth the risk. I may be pfb still here but I'm like that with my 2nd DC too

VeryBitchyRestingFace · 04/06/2016 21:09

Why does your BF have a key to your home? Is she in and out all the time why?

Marynary · 04/06/2016 21:15

No one said anything about "demanding" an apology. I'm just saying that I would tell the FB calmly that I believe an apology is owed to the AP for having spoken to her like that.

Considering the BF believes she was right, AP was wrong and (probably), why on earth would she apologise to the AP? The the most that OP can ask for is that she doesn't make any further comment.

Sounds like she has form for being a bitch towards this AP and that the OP isn't that interested in saving the friendship so in that case it isn't in anyone's interests to let it just "blow over".

If OP doesn't want to continue the friendship then it is all the more reason to let things "blow over" rather than discussing things further with the (x)BF.

TremoloGreen · 04/06/2016 22:19

Friend seems rather over invested in the whole scenario.

Another one surprised by those who wouldn't let a 3 1/2 year old have a snack unattended. I've never left a baby unattended and thought I was being uber precious by cutting up grapes until DD was 2! But now feel a terrible parent, especially when I think back to all the times I did exactly what your AP did when I had hyperemesis with DD2.

Dozer · 04/06/2016 22:29

As others say, your BF was out of order to speak to your AP like that: your F should have said nothing and mentioned her concerns to you later.

I personally wouldn't have been OK with what your AP did, particularly leaving Dd alone with the food and lying down (risk of falling asleep) before help arrived. But I would be very angry with any friend or family member who spoke to anyone like that in my/their home.

Dieu · 04/06/2016 22:36

The OP should never have been put in the position of having to take charge of your child while ill.

SquidgeyMidgey · 04/06/2016 22:45

If your BF was so besty she would have got herself round earlier. Your poor AP, sounds like she was doing her best while she was ill. I would get the keys off the BF and tell her to back off (like you did!).

RosieSW · 04/06/2016 22:49

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ChablisTyrant · 04/06/2016 22:58

Another one baffled by the 'choking risk' of a 3.5 yo eating fruit. They aren't a baby. Is the choking risk any higher than a 35 yo choking on fruit?

Lweji · 04/06/2016 22:58

If you are so attached to your child that they can't even eat a grape or any snack without being watched, that is so over-the-top IMO

This type of sentence is over the top.

Normally, DS would eat at meals, and I'd be around, not resting in another room or in the bathroom.
No need to watch him like a hawk, but no leaving him to watch tv with snacks if I wasn't around either.

I don't think it's a big deal on this, but certainly something I'd ask the AP no to do again. It would have been better to just let her watch tv after a quick snack.

Atenco · 04/06/2016 23:03

Is there a scientifically proven age when it is safe to leave a child eating on their own?

Lweji · 04/06/2016 23:10

That would fall in the same category as going to school alone.
But 3.5 does seem young to be left alone, unless the au pair could assure the OP that she watching her all the time. Even sensible ones.

RosieSW · 04/06/2016 23:23

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Dozer · 04/06/2016 23:38

Yes many of us probably are overanxious.

The AP in this case left the 3.5yo in the adjoining room with food then lay down ill, so she could have fallen asleep. That's different to popping in and out of the room.