how is this 'a faddy diet' ? diabetic - newly diagnosed

[mrsfuzzy]

going to lunch with a friend next week, but she is complaining because of my new 'faddy diet' - have just been diagnosed with type 2 diabetes, which she finds hard to understand, am still in a degree of denial and uncertain as to what i can eat, waitting on apt with diabetic nurse for advice, have looked online but am so confused and upset,
any advice mners. she thinks i'm being faddy and awkward, should i cancel ? have tried explaining it will limit me but she is a bit domineering and i feel a bit depressed with the whole situation to say no.

Follow the Newcastle study and also this week's news. Just eat 800 calories a day.

OP, this is a sensible diet for type 2 diabetes, advised by health professionals, but it's NOT the 'Eatwell Plate' that you may well be advised to use by your diabetic nurse.

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Your friend is an idiot.

Part of the problem is there are a percentage of people with t2d who on the outside look like they have changed nothing!

They eat crap they drink what they want and tell people they are fine. And it's no big deal

The reality is these people are making themselves very ill!

To lots of people who have no knowledge and see the above think the others who are making the right choices/changes are being over the top.

Saying all that though your friend is being a selfish dick!

You have a diagnosed condition and have to eat a certain way. A friend would be understanding.
If she wants to a really indulgent meal when out for a meal that is her choice the way you eat doesn't stop here doing that.

So basically you have been diagnosed with a life changing illness and yet it's all about her? You need to replace your 'friend'.

Meanwhile you've had a lot of good pointers about places to get diet advice - I suspect that you will end up leaner, fitter and healthier than your soon to be ex-friend. And most of the population too.

Good luck

There's every reason to cancel - permanently. With 'friends' like her who needs enemies?!

As hunibuni and others have said, www.diabetes.co.uk is a really good website.

The standards NHS advice for diabetics is awful, really, really awful but some Diabetic Nurses have finally accepted that Low Carb really is the way forward & are going against the old NHS advice.

I reversed/put mine into remission/control it using a low carb diet. No medication. Low carbing, self testing & exercising (walking is enough).

I know that you told her because it's new and worrying for you and she is a friend, it was top of my mind when I was diagnosed. But after a while I got used to what I can eat and it really isn't at all apparent to others that I'm choosing carefully from the menu, if others have a dessert then I either 'don't fancy it today' or I'm 'really stuffed after that main course' but I'm happy to have a coffee while they have a dessert. There really isn't any restaurant that I can't find something suitable in (even combined with my lactose intolerance) so it's not as though you're going to be limiting her choice of food in any way.

She sounds like a self-centred pain in the neck, it's none of her business whether you eat dessert or not, and I would postpone.

Cancel the meal and the friendship.

Yeah, what they all said. Some "friend" who thinks YOUR potentially life-limiting illness is going to somehow make HER life more difficult! Lovely. She sounds a really caring peachy person.

Agree that sometimes you don't get the best advice from the dietitians - I know my Mum was given some very odd advice (basically the Type I Diabetes dietary guidelines) when she was diagnosed with Type II diabetes. Trouble is, the Type I guidelines rely on the fact that the patient is taking regular insulin - Type II in early stages doesn't require insulin and can be managed by diet alone, but not if you eat loads of carbs (necessary for a Type I diabetic on insulin).

Anyway - if the very thought of lunch with her is making you tearful then cancel! Say you're just not up to it after the rather upsetting news about your health. And never call her back.

In the Weighloss section of MN, in the Low Carbing section BIWI runs a 'Bootcamp'. I avoided it for the longest time because I thought it was something to do with Forces Style Workouts 😁 It's actually a great group of people Low Carbimg with BIWI handing out shed loads of good advice, a few raised eyebrows & loads of encouragement 😊 without her I wouldn't have achieved what I did. No way. Everyone is great, very supportive. They're part way through one now but it doesn't matter at all, you'd be very welcome to join in and between 'Bootcamps' there's a thread that keeps running.

My HbA1c, blood pressure & cholesterol were all back into the normal range within a few months. Life changing.

If you're in the SE of England, meet me for lunch instead 😊💐☕️

sorry, i'm all teared up reading your lovely helpful posts, to everyone of you fir your experiences and advice, i'm going to cancel, kick this 'friend' to the curb [ she knows about my condition] and get in touch with diabetes uk as suggested.
big thank you to you all .

Just wanted to say I live in Mexico where every second person seems to have diabetes 2. My FIL had it from the age of 40 and died at the age of 90. My friend's grandmother had it from about the age of 40 and died at the age of 92.

The sooner you start keeping an eye on your diet, the better the outcome of course, but they say that diabetes diet is the healthiest diet for everyone.

your friend is a cow. you dont need this kind of negativity when you are already having a hard time. my best friend is a type 2 and she certainly doesn't live on celery. she just adjusts normal meals and portion sizes and is controlling hers with diet alone. good luck with it all MrsF x

Of course it isn't a "faddy diet". You are trying to learn to eat within the guidelines or advice given for your newly diagnosed medical condition, which is a life-changing diagnosis that I presume you are still coming to terms with.

She doesn't sound like much of a friend. It should be perfectly possible for you to go out with a friend and each eat totally different types of meals without it being an issue at all.

Ditch her and go out with a different friend.

I was diagnosed last July as as yet not on medication thank goodness. See if you can get on one of their courses which wile some rant on abut them I with a very skeptical head found good. Diabetes is one of those things that is different for everyone and different foods and food combinations cause different issues for different people. So I can eat a fairly ordinary meal of meat and 2 veg with potatoes and am fine, I can even have a small pudding so long as its not overly sugar rich so sponge and custard unsweetened is fine for me, salted caramel cheesecake err not on your nelly - lol. Its about finding what is right for you - there is lots of ongoing research at the moment and even the courses are saying if you want to lose weight a lower carb diet is going to help. But if you can switch to the brown versions of rice and pasta, home made sauces and so on, keep of drinks when out ( I stick to water and fizzy water unless they have diet lemonade as caffeine is a trigger for me

It does baffle me why some people feel personally offended if you don't shovel a load of lard down your throat. I would never say anything if someone I was eating lunch with ordered a burger or desert, so why do they feel put out if I order something 'healthy'. And I don't even have type 2 diabetes!

I am glad that you have decided to give lunch a miss- she sounds like an idiot. You might wish to inform her that eating according to MEDICAL advice so that you don't, you know, DIE, is not a faddy diet.

Someone else mentioned it upthread but there was something in the papers this week about a very low calorie diet (crash diet) halting type 2 if you lose 10% of your body weight. Look into intermittent fasting too. My uncle was diagnosed with type 2, lost 4 stone and is now off his medication. Good luck and hope you feel better.

I think you're doing the right thing. You really do need proper support at the moment, and this 'friend' isn't it.

Unfortunately there are some people who consider themselves the diabetes police and will comment on what you choose to eat, but who don't actually understand how it works. They're not friends either.

It can take a while to get the hang of what works for you. But there's lots of good advice on this thread about watching your carb intake. As others have said, the standard NHS advice is generally poor.

Mrsfuzzy you should ditch your friend,you have enough on your plate with new diagnosis.
I can completely identify with this,was diagnosed in September 14 but turned my life around and manage to have completely normal results since November 14 due to specific diet. I did not find NHS advise helpful at all
Really low carb diet,no starchy food and no white bread/pasta is the key to success.

I have a friend who has type2 and through low carbing and sensible eating along the lines of the blood sugar diet, has almost reversed her diagnosis
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Unfortunately although it is known that diet can reverse type2 the NHS doesn't promote....

Stuff you friend

She's not a friend. She's also not very bright by the sounds of it.
Hope you get on okay managing it all.

My Gran essentially killed my Grandad in the 1970s by refusing to pander to 'fads'.

I'd cancel, she's not being a good friend.

My Grandad had type 2 and Gran refused to modify their diet so she basically bumped him off.

Billsykesdog Your Gran doesn't sound brightest and most considerate woman,but Grandad wasn't a child.He could have cooked his own food and manage his own condition.

Unfortunately although it is known that diet can reverse type2 the NHS doesn't promote.... there is a national reverse diabetes naturally day, it doesn't get much coverage...