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queen's birthday party at school

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prepschoolinsanity · 30/05/2016 13:47

my son's school is having a party for the queen's birthday. The children have to make bunting with a picture they have drawn themselves of something to do with the queen - a corgi say, or a crown.

I'm debating whether our picture should feature a flea or a hookworm...

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derxa · 31/05/2016 12:34

you do know he is the elected head of government there, right? How rude.

lavenderdoilly · 31/05/2016 12:34

Chili - the Canadians have our queen as head of state. As do the Australians etc etc.

Egosumquisum · 31/05/2016 12:35

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lavenderdoilly · 31/05/2016 12:36

And chili a us president has executive power. The Queen does not.

cupidsgame · 31/05/2016 12:37

Trump has now officially replaced Blair for royalists, like there'd be no one else. Confused

chilipepper20 · 31/05/2016 12:37

Chili - the Canadians have our queen as head of state.

that's the official head of state, not the acting head.

How rude.

you remarked the head of government of the most powerful country costs a lot in security, which doesn't seem like headline news to me.

Egosumquisum · 31/05/2016 12:39

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lavenderdoilly · 31/05/2016 12:39

Chili - who's the acting head of state of Canada? Seriously - I must have missed this.

chilipepper20 · 31/05/2016 12:39

And chili a us president has executive power. The Queen does not.

that's why he gets paid $400,000/year. Remind me what the queen does?

derxa · 31/05/2016 12:39

I'm being serious now. Who would you like for President if Britain became a republic?

chilipepper20 · 31/05/2016 12:40

who's the acting head of state of Canada?

the GG. All head of state duties are carried out by the GG, not the queen.

lavenderdoilly · 31/05/2016 12:40

Yes, ego, and the irish, German or Indian model would suit us very well. However, we don't get there by childish behaviour via our children.

Egosumquisum · 31/05/2016 12:41

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lavenderdoilly · 31/05/2016 12:41

And who formally approves the GG?

chilipepper20 · 31/05/2016 12:43

Who would you like for President if Britain became a republic?

Perhaps a vote could decide that? An temporary appointment (as done in Canada). Any way other than birthright?

chilipepper20 · 31/05/2016 12:45

And who formally approves the GG?

I am not Canadian, but if I remember correctly, it's the PM and parliament that choose the GG, and the queen rubber stamps the approval.

cupidsgame · 31/05/2016 12:53

Who would you like for president if Britain became a republic
Well if we did it on the same basis as how the royal family works it would be David Cameron's son, followed by his son followed by his son. But what if one of DCs descendants is a violent alcoholic drug addicted wife beater? well that doesn't matter because his great grandad was David Cameron so he gets the job.

lavenderdoilly · 31/05/2016 13:04

If the queen rubber stamps the approval of the GG for Canada, how is that better than the Queen rubber stamping uk legislation?

chilipepper20 · 31/05/2016 13:08

If the queen rubber stamps the approval of the GG for Canada, how is that better than the Queen rubber stamping uk legislation?

the GG is not decided by birthright. The current GG has something on his CV other than his parents' name. I'd also guess that the compensation for the GG is quite modest compared to what the queen gets.

Yes, by all means, if there is rubber stamping going on, let's pay the going rate.

lavenderdoilly · 31/05/2016 13:18

The GG appears to be selected like an EU commissioner. Sorry to drag the referendum anywhere near this but I don't think Canada is a good example. Nor is France or the US. Ireland or Germany or India seem to have a better model.

chilipepper20 · 31/05/2016 13:24

Sorry to drag the referendum anywhere near this but I don't think Canada is a good example.

not democratic enough to be appointed by elected representatives? Perhaps you are right, but that's odd criticism given the way the current head of state is chosen.

I never said it is the greatest model. I just said that it was an alternative from a country with a similar style of government.

lavenderdoilly · 31/05/2016 13:37

Well the crux of the Leave argument is that the European Commission is undemocratic because the commissioners are not elected. They are selected by the national governments much like the GG of Canada.
I don't like the idea of an unelected head of state. However, the Op suggested some vicarious protest against the queen via her child which seemed childish and pointless.

SenecaFalls · 31/05/2016 13:40

I'm sure they have high levels of security paid for by the tax payer.

This was in reference to the Bushes and the Clintons. Former presidents and first ladies get lifetime Secret Service protection; children of former presidents get it until they are 16, although that can be extended for a time if circumstances warrant. No other family members get protection provided by the government.

In living memory, the US has experienced the assassination of a president and of a candidate for president, the shooting of another president, and an unsuccessful attack on yet another.

DumbDailyMail · 31/05/2016 13:54

I find it interesting that republicans, like me, don't tend to criticize the Queen as a person. I think most people realize she isn't an awful person. She certainly seems to put more effort into being a queen than I suspect many in her position would. It also strikes me that she is quite intelligent. She speaks well and is careful with what she says unlike her idiotic and offensive husband

Now, the problem is what happens when she dies and Charlie takes over. Oh dear lord, the man is a fool! Considering his privileged background he comes across as quite thick. He also seems to not be able to relate to people in the same way the Queen can. It wouldn't be so bad if he didn't try and meddle in parliamentary issues.

lavenderdoilly · 31/05/2016 14:08

What Dumb just said. I agree with Dumb.