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An endangered gorilla has been shot dead after a 4-yo fell into its zoo enclosure

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AdrenalineFudge · 29/05/2016 20:32

Why the fuck has this happened... again - to another endangered species?

A little boy fell into an enclosure and the zoo staff decided the best course of action was to shoot the gorilla dead.

I'm not even sure who I'm most angry at. This should not have happened in the first place.

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RufusTheReindeer · 30/05/2016 23:02

Agreed grease

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GreaseIsNotTheWord · 30/05/2016 23:04

Personally I think a better analogy would be a child that runs over to a dog in the park, scares it and gets bitten by it.

Yes, the parents should watch their own child. And it's not the dogs fault, they were scared by the child. But ultimately it's the owner of the dog who must ensure their animal is not left in a position where they could harm a person. And the poor dog is still the one that gets PTS.

Just like in this situation, it was the Zoo's responsibility to make sure that their animal was never in a position where they could harm someone. And they failed in that responsibility.

RufusTheReindeer · 30/05/2016 23:05

Ooooh nice one grease

Bearpeep · 30/05/2016 23:06

Please don't use the word moron.

Nataleejah · 31/05/2016 00:14

Dogs don't need analogies. Dogs are predatory animals, very different level of intelligence. If it mauled a human once, most likely will do that again.

A gorilla most likely was of higher intelligence than that kid. But hey, poor mother, she had a 'scary' day

TealLove · 31/05/2016 00:49

The Mother sounds completely stupid. All that God nonsense. I'm changing my view on this the more I read. She sounds completely clueless.

LoucheLady · 31/05/2016 03:36

Loving the Monday morning silver quarterbacking by the armchair primatologists. Why bother with a PhD in animal behaviour when watching a bit of David Attenborough will do eh? Do you not think experienced and trained zoo professionals have a slightly better grip on what the animals in their care are capable of than you can glean from a couple of minutees of grainy camera footage? Unless you really are Dian Fossey protegés, in which case I apologise.

Shariamom · 31/05/2016 03:40

There is a change.org petition to ensure the parents are prosecuted, not the zoo.
The parents are singularly to blame for the murder of this great ape. They are utterly irresponsible. Please sign it.
#pray4Harambe

mamamea · 31/05/2016 04:07

"The quotes from the family statement posted earlier appear to have missed a paragraph. The omitted paragraph states:"

No, not missing any paragraph. I posted the mother's full statement as posted on Facebook. The statement about the zoo came later, presumably once she had lawyered up. It does not reflect her true feelings.

mamamea · 31/05/2016 05:37

Apparently the father has a long history of violent criminal behaviour.

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3617016/EXCLUSIVE-PICTURES-parents-four-son-fell-zoo-enclosure-sparking-controversial-killing-Harambe-gorilla-emerges-father-lengthy-criminal-history.html

He also has a contempt conviction for not paying child support to another woman.

There is a picture of the son on the mother's Facebook, pouting and looking like the world's most wayward child. Not really surprising he ran off.

LoucheLady · 31/05/2016 06:21

Hashtag prayforharambe" jeez get a grip. Pray for the seven hundred migrants who drowned in the Med this week.

bakeoffcake · 31/05/2016 07:04

mamamea "looking like the worlds most wayward child. Not really surprising he ran off"

Gosh you can tell all that by looking at one photo. Get yourself into the police. You could save the nation a fortune, just show you a photo if a child and you can tell if they'll become "wayward".Hmm

bakeoffcake · 31/05/2016 07:05

And what the fuck does the fathers criminal record have to do with this incident?

Flashbangandgone · 31/05/2016 07:27

There is a change.org petition to ensure the parents are prosecuted, not the zoo.

Prosecuted for what exactly?

Nataleejah · 31/05/2016 07:47

Negligence most likely.
If you drive a car and cause a fatal collision, due to your inexperience/distraction or whatever, you may be held liable, not the other driver's car manufacturer.

Thefitfatty · 31/05/2016 07:53

If you drive a car and cause a fatal collision, due to your inexperience/distraction or whatever, you may be held liable, not the other driver's car manufacturer.

Unless there was a defect in either of the cars that allowed for the accident to happen or be worse than it was. i.e. airbags failing to inflate. turn signals failing to work, major blind spots. etc.

Nataleejah · 31/05/2016 08:03

The other driver's car model did not have airbags

kitkat1968 · 31/05/2016 08:19

The zoo were negligent to have a dangerous animal enclosure that a 4 yo could access. Theh have a duty of care to their visitors which has clearly been breeched.i expect the family will sue tve zoo in due course.
What a strange thread! Do people really believe an animal life should trump a human one?

Thefitfatty · 31/05/2016 08:31

The other driver's car model did not have airbags

Then the other driver is liable for not having a car with basic safety features.

Flashbangandgone · 31/05/2016 08:45

Negligence most likely. if losing a child in a zoo for a few minutes is negligence, then almost all parents are negligent by this understanding. If this is so, are you going to call social services on yourself for losing your child at the airport? Whilst we're at lets abolish 'lost children' posts at attractions and just station a social worker there to take lost children straight into care from their negligent parents!

Shadowracer · 31/05/2016 08:45

kitkat it appears by some posters that the greater the intelligence of the beast the greater the higher the price of life I give you:

Dogs don't need analogies. Dogs are predatory animals, very different level of intelligence. If it mauled a human once, most likely will do that again. A gorilla most likely was of higher intelligence than that kid. But hey, poor mother, she had a 'scary' day just up thread you'll find this bit of wisdom.

GreaseIsNotTheWord · 31/05/2016 08:47

There is a picture of the son on the mother's Facebook, pouting and looking like the world's most wayward child. Not really surprising he ran off

So WHAT. Dangerous animal enclosures should be built to a standard that there is no chance of people coming into contact with the animals. For the protection of both the people and the animal.

The Zoo failed in this.

Crazypetlady · 31/05/2016 08:50

At a zoo like that she should never have alllowed him to wonder off there have been no incidents for 28 years until some idiot let their child wonder off next to the gorilla enclosure.

RufusTheReindeer · 31/05/2016 08:51

shadow

If intelligence was a marker there would be a fuck load of people on this thread in immediate danger

Oh well