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Sex on tv... Acceptable and expected?

100 replies

LoveBitOfMN · 27/05/2016 09:14

NC for this
Had seriously enough from programs like Geordie Shore who advocate sex on TV so easily with anyone, and maybe a different one dependant on day of the week!
'Ladies' who barely left their teenage years just get pissed night after night showing their bits, fucking the one that just has to pay a pathetic compliment !
These ladies are stars on TV, they win celebrity big brother etc loved by everyone
The blow job to whatever idiot is their claim to fame..
These are the idols our daughters are inspired to be?? How scary is that?

As for the little male fuckers of those programs... No comment

OP posts:
NannawifeofBaldr · 27/05/2016 10:31

Love Olivers did not miss the point.

Your point is that our culture is saturated with to 'stars' inappropriate behaviour and that it's not a good influence on the young.

I completely agree that having Sex on TV is absolutely not something I want for my children.

However as to the 'saturation of culture' points you have completed failed to address the point that Olivers and I (and others) have made:

It is perfectly possible to live in Britian today and engage in popular culture without seeing it being influenced by any of the behaviour you dislike.

Stop watching reality TV and reading tabloids/celeb magazines and all these rafts of Z list celebs and their bad behaviour will disappear from your life completely.

It is in your power- I'm not sure why you won't acknowledge that.

LoveBitOfMN · 27/05/2016 10:32

And I replied everything our children are not only influenced by us otherwise bud never make mistakes!

OP posts:
MrsJayy · 27/05/2016 10:32

My Dds have not been ifluenced by GS or kim kardashian or anybody from towie they are of that generation and manage to avoid it but if girls are watching it surely its for shock or entertainment value and you know 20 something girls do go out get pissed and have sex

LoveBitOfMN · 27/05/2016 10:33

'They' not 'bud'Hmm

OP posts:
NannawifeofBaldr · 27/05/2016 10:34

But presumably you have reasonable control of what TV is watched in your house?

corythatwas · 27/05/2016 10:41

Popular culture is so vivid and so vibrant at the moment- so much good acting on the telly, so many young people visiting the theatres, so much going on on Twitter and facebook (some of it really witty and insightful), so much music- if you or your teens are reduced to Reality TV and celeb magazines, I wonder what is the matter with your family. Perhaps I can send some teens over to educate you?

Now sex otoh- that is a universal urge. As John Mortimer once pointed out, equally popular in the 1940s and (as he put it) "the swinging 1410's". Wink

Oliversmumsarmy · 27/05/2016 10:52

I wouldn't know who any of these people are if they walked up to me in the street and told me to name them and I could win £1million. If you stop reading or looking or watching these people then they don't affect you.

IPityThePontipines · 27/05/2016 10:55

Right, so we should all live in our little bubbles and make no comment on any wider culture anywhere, "because there's always the off switch"?

The OP is getting stick for being, prudish or judgmental and therefore apparently unfeminist, but she should instead sit down and stay quiet, as that's somehow the more feminist thing to do? Confused

Your kids might be alright ignoring the fame and adulation the likes of Kim Kardashian et al get, but I think everyone's daughters deserves better than that.

MrsJayy · 27/05/2016 11:02

So are we meant to blast these women off the planet then KK is a vapid fame hungry woman who I would never miss if she vanished but are these women not entitled to exist all we can do is challenge the notion of famous for being famous and hope for the best for our daughters

DioneTheDiabolist · 27/05/2016 11:07

None of the children I know (over the age of 7) watch TV anymore, unless they are watching a show with adults.

I watch CBB and I'm a Celebrity and many young reality stars come over well. The ones that do well are funny, down to earth and muck in. I am glad that they then go on to do other things. I don't watch shows where people get drunk and have sex, they are not difficult to avoid.

NannawifeofBaldr · 27/05/2016 11:11

IPity not at all.

Of course the OP can make any comment on popular culture she likes. However the implication in her first post is that these people are ubiquitous and unavoidable and that is demonstrably not true.

If her post had been staying that she dislikes reality TV and the way the format pushes the participants to outrageous behaviour in order to further their changes of fame I would have responded differently.

She said that they were "stars", "beloved by everyone" and "idols". Those are the points I'm disagreeing with.

Trash Reality TV isn't influencing my DC because it won't ever be shown in my house.

GreenishMe · 27/05/2016 11:13

The OP is getting stick for being, prudish or judgmental and therefore apparently unfeminist, but she should instead sit down and stay quiet, as that's somehow the more feminist thing to do?
Agree ^^

I suspect many on this thread are being a little less than honest with their very liberal comments......it's ok because it's other people's kids - doubt they'd feel the same about their own kids being filmed shagging.

Is filming someone who's so pissed they're shagging in public even consensual??

MrsJayy · 27/05/2016 11:13

Yip what Nanna said

NannawifeofBaldr · 27/05/2016 11:27

Greenish I think that Reality TV is horrific.
The absolutely best way I know to challenge its spread across our screens is to refuse to watch it.

In much the same way I don't buy certain products because they don't meet my ethical standards.

I'm not tell the OP to keep quiet, I'm telling her she has a choice as a consumer.

KondosSecretJunkRoom · 27/05/2016 11:50

Georgie Shaw and such like are not on TV to offer a view of aspirational living. They are edited and consumed in such a way as to make the audience feel superior. It's a televised walk of shame and offers its willing audience a morality tale about why young girls should rein in their drinking and sexual appetite.

Pop it in the same box as poverty porn, do you think the rise of that TV genre is going to inspire a generation of teenagers to sign on. Of course not.

GreenishMe · 27/05/2016 11:54

I'm not tell the OP to keep quiet, I'm telling her she has a choice as a consumer

I expect she knows that herself Nanna.

I read her OP as questioning whether these programmes should be being made in the first place....not whether she should allow her DC's to view them?

She's been vilified for doing that by quite a few on here. Very few have actually addressed the question.

We all know kids get pissed/have sex/make fucking awful choices - as most of us did ourselves when we were young.

When we're young we lack judgement and then we grow up and our past remains our anonymous past. I, for one, would be devastated if my kids could one day go online and view me doing things in another life that I'm now embarrassed or ashamed of.

A lot of these 'stars' will have regrets when they're older/have their own children but these film footages will probably still be available for their great grandchildren to view.

I agree with the OP that these programmes shouldn't be on tv - in the long term they benefit nobody but the programme makers.

IcyTeaAndScoopyScoopyDogDog · 27/05/2016 11:56

Sent on TV is not acceptable.

You might fall off and you could ruin the ariel.

MrsJayy · 27/05/2016 12:00

You are right it only benefits the programme makers and a pp is spot on it isnt aspirational TV but these reality stars creep into mainstream they may or maynot get a career out of tv but atm they have a media career which baffles me but what harm are they doing ?

soundofthenightingale · 27/05/2016 12:02

god I hate sex on TV. All those tongues down throats, pretend shagging, stripping and so on, even the soaps have these scenes now. Come back Ena Sharples!

Even fairly decent dramas like "The A Word" people were at it every other scene. I feel sorry for the actors who have to exchange body fluid and strip as part of their contract. I accidentally saw Geordie Shore once on TV - there was a couple having actual sex on a bed, albeit with blanket to cover their actual bodies but a nice view of 'humping' for those who like this kind of thing (voyeurs it used to be called). Personally I found it shocking but wondered am I the only person in the world who does?

MrsJayy · 27/05/2016 12:02

People have their whole life on social media these days from naked baby pics to drunken nights out yeah they can delete facebook but its still all there online

NannawifeofBaldr · 27/05/2016 12:05

Greenish It isn't clear to me she did realise how easy they are to avoid, however that said you seem to be arguing two points:

A) they should be banned
B) they are a negative influence

With regards to A) I don't like them, they won't ever be allowed in my house but they are popular with millions of people. It might not be good for them but neither are lots of consumer products. Boycotting is probably more effective than banning.

B) negative influence. Young people sometimes make mistakes with regards to sex and alcohol, this is not new and was as much of a problem hundreds of years ago as it is now. How much programmes like these influence your children are within your control as a parent. You can make sure they aren't watched in your home, you can discuss the content, issues and repercussions with your children.

My point is that we don't have to be passive consumers of this stuff. We have choice just as we have choice what to eat or where to shop.

My concern about the OP was the implication that there was no choice. That's just not true.

MrsJayy · 27/05/2016 12:05

I hate watching long sex scenes on Tv makes me uncomfortable all that slurping and thrusting

GreenishMe · 27/05/2016 12:06

Sent on TV is not acceptable. You might fall off and you could ruin the ariel.

Who let Keith Lemon in?? Confused

crazywriter · 27/05/2016 12:11

Never watch the shows. Don't care for them so have no interest what is going on in them. I thought this was initially going to be about Game of Thrones and other similar shows.

Too much see? Meh. I wouldn't know with not watching. They're on after 9pm though so little ones should be in bed. There are also parental controls with most boxes now to prevent under 18s watching something you don't want them to.

I think more sex on TV is because the world is moving into a more open nature when it comes to TV. It doesn't bother me what others watch. If I don't like something I'll just turn off. It's not just going to be sex (I love GOT) but the actual acting and scripts, which the shows you've mentioned OP definitely don't have.

Bolograph · 27/05/2016 12:17

Had seriously enough from programs like Geordie Shore

So don't watch it. Read a book. Switch on BBC4 or Radio 4. Done.