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Splitting the cost of a holiday cottage with family and friends - AIBU?

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ThursdayAlready2 · 16/05/2016 11:21

DH and I are hoping to go away with friends/relatives this Christmas, and rent a cottage somewhere nice. The cottage will need five bedrooms, and we’ve found quite a few places that have potential. But we’ve hit a stumbling block with costs ……..

Let’s say the total cost is £1000 for five nights, and there are five couples, each couple occupying one bedroom. These aren’t the actual figures, but they do illustrate my point. I’d assumed we’d split £1000 equally between us, so £200 per couple. Simple? No …….

One couple said they may only stay four nights, so could they pro-rata their £200 payment to reflect less nights. Then another couple asked if they could do the same, and then my brother announced he may not be bringing his girlfriend, so could he only pay £100 rather than £200 as there’s now one person in his room and not two!!!

My question to all of them, was: “if you pay a reduced contribution, are you expecting everyone else to pay extra to cover this”? Silence all round.

When I eventually got hold of my brother, he seemed to think that as DH and I would be making the booking, that we would somehow be acting as hoteliers and stumping up the whole cost, and then sort of selling each room to the wider group on an “only pay for what you use” basis. Which isn’t how I’d envisaged it at all. I thought it was an “we’re all in this together” arrangement, where all the costs were split equally five ways, and if you only want to use your room for 4 nights, then that’s your prerogative but don’t expect the rest of the group to subsidise you.

DH and I quickly realised this has got disaster written all over it, and are now seriously considering making other plans, but as the initial invitation had been “shall we rent a cottage and split the costs between us” – AIBU to think everyone else is being unreasonable ??????

OP posts:
shamelessmailhack · 16/05/2016 13:59

Well done on pulling out. As I was reading your OP I was thinking 'holy fuck, don't do this!' Seriously, being the organiser of any kind of weekend away is awful unless you literally just say 'This is the plan. This is the cost. Transfer money by this date please.' Otherwise, you will have to deal with endless flaky nonsense, and you've still got months to go through arguments about food costs etc.

I suggest booking a week for the two of you on the beach instead. Sunny xmas!

wizzywig · 16/05/2016 14:02

This is for christmas? No no no. Youll only get people pulling out because their next door neighbours babysitter from the 1960s has to spend christmas with them etc etc

BackforGood · 16/05/2016 14:09

YANBU.
YAB very wise to pull out.
If they can't grasp that the room has to be paid for, for the whole week whether they choose to stay in it or not (unless they can sub-let to someone else? Grin), then you are going to have further arguments nightmare over how you split the bills for food, wine, etc., and also the work involved - the shopping, the cooking, the washing up, etc.,etc.
I'd book a quiet cosy cottage for just you and dh instead.

Kr1stina · 16/05/2016 14:10

Whiskey - I agree , it did do my head in . I assume she gave back the deposits because shea a nice person, which is probably why she took on the organiser job in the first place. Much like the OP .

Everyone wants to be the Nice Person who says " yes of course I'll give you your money back " . Without thinking that it's not THEIR money YOU are giving them back, it's OTHER PEOPLE'S money that you are giving them.

So you then have to get everyone to agree to it retrospectively and no one wants to be the Mean Person who says " Oi no, I don't agree, give me back my fiver " . But then it sets a precedent and you are stuffed ( to use a polite word)

OP is well out of it IMO

Whisky2014 · 16/05/2016 14:17

I've organised too many Christmas parties to worry about anyone getting their deposit back!

Actually, last year, one guy couldn't make it as he was stuck offshore and apparently when he did make it in to the office and I was on my xmas hols apparently he was griping about the fact everyone got pished on his £10 and bad mouthed me he didn't get his money back!

My colleague had to explain it's to reserve tables etc and we didn't get his money discounted from the drinks bill.
Some people are so tight!

Guiltypleasures001 · 16/05/2016 14:48

Where do I send my cheque to op? I'll even offer to cook the turkey. 200 quid is a bargain Wink

PanGalaticGargleBlaster · 16/05/2016 14:53

If people are being arses about splitting costs now you know that come the holiday they will be the same people quibbling over the restaurant bill because their main was £1.50 less then yours and they only had two glasses of wine rather then three. Just not worth the hassle

Arfarfanarf · 16/05/2016 14:58

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Junosmum · 16/05/2016 15:01

Alternatively work out the cost per person per night and charge accordingly.

expatinscotland · 16/05/2016 15:08

Yep, you've made the right decision. Never do this. It never works out.

cozietoesie · 16/05/2016 15:12

I've found that it can work out fine.

With different people though.,Smile

limon · 16/05/2016 16:00

Costs should be split either per room or per person (including children). So yabu.

rookiemere · 16/05/2016 16:27

YANBU.

A key point that hasn't been mentioned here is that no way could you get a double room in a hotel at Christmas time for 3 nights at £200 never mind 5 nights, actually you wouldn't get a single room for that cost either.

So by being stingy over say £50, the other people are now committing themselves to at least twice as much as the original amount if they want to meet up in a hotel, with much less space and privacy.

The only nice explanation I can think of is perhaps they don't often stay in cottages so they don't understand that you don't pay per room or per night [clutches at straws].

You're well rid of it OP.

LisaMumsnet · 16/05/2016 16:33

The poor person who organises something like this always loses out. I once booked and paid for sushi for my entire office to have a summer picnic. On the day two people turned round and said 'sorry, we've brought our own lunch in/got other plans' and I had to foot the bill for their lunches. Never again!

ImperialBlether · 16/05/2016 16:38

Was that at MNHQ, Lisa? You can name and shame the offenders here! Grin

ThursdayAlready2 · 16/05/2016 16:49

DH and I have decided to make our own arrangements instead.

I've emailed round everyone, and said that it was already getting far too complicated, and that DH and I were worried about being left out of pocket, and/or having arguments with friends/family, so we won't be pursuing a family cottage this Christmas.

My relatives have a history of thinking that whoever suggests or initiates a plan (generally me, as I'm the family organiser) should naturally pick up the tab ....... Not this time though !!!

OP posts:
Rowanhart · 16/05/2016 16:51

We've done this lots of times. Split equally based on rooms and entire cost.

Or you don't go and you and hubby get nice little cottage and cuddle up.

Rowanhart · 16/05/2016 17:00

The thing about it normally is the bringing of food and drink.

So my family go completely overboard, bringing tonnes. And then I'll spend fortunes on a turkey.

Last year SiL arrived with her hubby, two kids, some lunchsbles and a box of Stella. They ate and drank well and no point contributed.

But it's Christmas so my lot are too merry to care (well kind of. Little bitch in kitchen day we left) Grin

Tiggeryoubastard · 16/05/2016 17:02

If that was starting already over something so obvious, think of the arguments over things like food; 'he had a pig in blanket more than me', 'she drinks more tea'. Bugger that!

Smurfnoff · 17/05/2016 13:55

I know it's a moot point now you've cancelled, but I'm interested to hear - would all of you saying 'the price is per room not per person's still be doing so if the brother had always been planning to come alone? Everything is keen to point out that the OP is not a hotelier - charging a single room supplement seems a very hotel-like thing to do.

In this case it's not unreasonable to expect him to cover the cost as he's umming and aahing about his girlfriend coming when you agreed a price for six of you. However, I don't see why if you're that close you couldn't consider splitting the cost five ways (if he was prepared to say he was definitely coming without his girlfriend) instead of three.

TheUnsullied · 17/05/2016 14:48

Will be interesting to see their responses Thursday.

I think there are two ways of working out costs that are fair providing they're agreed beforehand. The way you proposed is the cleanest way of doing it. But dividing the cost between the cumulative number of people staying each night and charging per person per night can work too, providing each person is allocated adequate bedroom space (not a family of 6 squashed into 1 room for example). This way is more fair in the sense that people don't end up paying for 5 day holidays when they only want to go for 3/4, but slightly less fair because those who are paying for more nights end up more heavily subsidising the empty rooms.

That said, I never organise anything for a group unless I get the money upfront and everyone agrees that they won't get refunds if they decide not to go. I learned that in my late teens having organised a caravan holiday for a group of friends who did pay in full eventually but the money came in dribs and drabs and under petulant protest well after I put myself out of pocket. I literally ended up stood blocking the door to the caravan at the start of the holiday blocking one awkward sod from coming in until he went to a cash point to pay me back.

Nanunanu · 17/05/2016 15:12

We go away as a group of 7 adults regularly and have done since student days. 3 married couples and 1 single. We split the costs 7 ways. Particularly as our single friend earns less than most.

But if some can only stay 2 out of 3 nights they still pay their full 1/7th of the housing costs. Cos it's not like the others will use their room when they aren't there.

Whilst the children don't need their own rooms they (or rather their parents) don't share the costs

Food costs would be roughly per day though

oldlaundbooth · 17/05/2016 15:13

Good for you, Thursday.

Sometimes it's just not worth it.

You and DH can go somewhere nice instead, just the two of you.

I have had family holidays where it's involved extensive Excel sheets to calculate the costs, it's even harder when one couple has kids but the others don't!

And how do you split alcohol? One drinks like a fish, the other just a glass per night? And a two year old eats less than a 12 year year old so not charged full price for food etc etc.

Fuck that.

aquashiv · 17/05/2016 15:19

This is a nightmare already for many reasons....these people will argue over cheese....

Newmanwannabe · 17/05/2016 15:58

Here's some cheek... Went on holiday with 8 families. Each booking was organised by each family. You had to pay a weekly rate. One family left after a week, everyone else stayed two weeks.

We left 4 days early with another family (X). No refund for those days... That's ok, But one of the other family (y) that stayed had a friend (z) come for those days. Our accomodation was better than X's so z stayed there. Found out Z gave Y some money... But Y gave the money to X because it was their sibling. No one offered us any, or half of Z's money. It wasn't a lot, but that's not the point. I think X should have said something to us, and either split it in half or gone out for dinner together

Some people are piss takers.