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Mother In Law problems, please help me.

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leelou905 · 14/05/2016 16:02

Hello.
I am due to get married in about a week, me and my partner both have a 3 year old daughter.
His mum has always been a bit snidey and off with me since day 1 - my partner tells me it's because I'm not successful and all of the other numerous reasons (excuses) he's told me over the years.

I will try to cut this short.

I've been with her son now for nearly 8 years. In the beginning me and his mum weren't close, she would often make remarks, and buy me presents that basically took the piss Eg a top that was XL when I was only a size 10 at the time. I always laughed it off and never tried to take much notice at the little comments and digs.

Since my daughter was born, she instantly tried to take control. she would take her off me and stand in the corner of the room rocking her to sleep in front of her whole family and leave me there wanting my baby back but not having the balls to say it at the time. Then came picture taking, she would leave me out of the shot whilst taking a pic of my DP and our daughter - that day we drove home and I cried all the way. I couldn't believe how horrible she was being.
Since then its ''oh she gets that off my son'' ''oh she gets that from my daughter'' blah blah blah, its like I never gave birth to her.

She has an issue with telling us how we should parent our daughter, and told us we needed to put her into childcare so that she could play with other children her own age (at the time I wasn't comfortable with it, as we'd just taken her out of a different nursery she had been in for a year) my partner said we didn't want to her answer was ''well I think she needs to go''

So one day I decided to write a message on Facebook, sending it to her, detailing how upset I was with her little digs and basically excluding me all of the time. WELL... she went barmy! she rang her husband, rang my partner, got her daughter... her daughter was sending my partner (her brother) messages saying ''have you seen what such and such is saying about mum'' and was copy and pasting all of the messages I had sent over to him. She tried to bully me into apologising and started twisting it around victimising herself and bringing up incidents (that I apparently caused) that never happened saying its all my fault and I'm the trouble maker.

I've come to realise she's is a covert narcissist. She chose to ignore me for a further two months, even when on several occasions I tried to ring and talk to her, to even apologise for how I may have approached talking to her about it. she excluded from inviting me around for xmas and invited my daughter and her son only. I was very lucky that my partner said no and we had xmas at home instead. She didn't like that and refused to bring our daughters presents around stating that she wanted to watch her open them at hers so they went around on boxing day instead - without me.

I eventually caved, through all of the emotional torment and full on apologised, she then rang up my partner and said ''I read her message I saw it as her apologising, so I accept her apology but I will still give advice and suggestions where I see fit''

I don't know If I can tolerate her anymore, I cant tell if I'm being pathetic or if she's gas lighting me..... I feel so beaten and trodden on emotionally, mentally. She has made comments about how brown hair is horrible (my hair is dark brown) and that my daughters hair comes from her because her hair is blonde.... She has said this to my face.

Am I being unreasonable here, am I being pathetic and just nit picking stupid things? I feel like I never used to do this, its only been since my daughter than I noticed it getting worse.

There is so much more I can add on here about her but I wont as its long enough already and I promised to cut it as short as possible!

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nobilityobliges · 18/05/2016 18:37

Hmm. It's hard to tell without actually seeing the situation, but I will say that a lot of the stuff you describe doesn't actually sound that bad.

  • XL top - I'm a size 10 and I wouldn't be offended if someone bought me this, unless she has issues surrounding weight or has made other comments about you.
  • taking baby to other side of room. I can totally understand why you would not like this, but at the same time it's normal for a grandmother to hold/rock a baby, and if you hadn't asked her to bring the baby back she wasn't to know she was doing wrong.
  • she gets that off my son/her aunt/me - totally normal comments. Some GPs LOVE to identify age-old family traits in little children - it definitely does not mean that they are denying the other parent has made a genetic contribution!
  • taking pictures of DP and baby. If she took loads of pictures and you were in none, that's bad. But wanting a pic of her son and grandchild... not in itself bad.
  • expressing view about child going to nursery - extremely annoying, she should but out, but not horrible or bullying.

Obviously making snide remarks constantly gets you down, so it's quite possible that she really is as bad as you are saying and it's a combination of a million tiny things rather than anything major. However, given that several of the examples you've given sound like annoying but not mean or bullying behaviour, I think you maybe need to examine whether you're overreacting a bit. Definitely "confronting" her on facebook was a bad idea, and I'm not surprised she contacted other family members about it, and doesn't want to see you (though since you've apologised she should just make up with you).

Tbh, I think you should let your DD have a relationship with her. And if you know you don't like being around her, then it makes sense to just send your DH with your DD. Contrary to some other posters, I don't think it's really fair to make your DH to choose between you and his mum. He should definitely stand up to her - eg backing you up on the nursery thing, telling her you're upset about being given a top that's too big, being left out of photos etc etc - but at the end of the day he's got a right to a relationship with her.

nobilityobliges · 18/05/2016 18:38

Although this is Shock: - my partner tells me it's because I'm not successful wtf is your partner thinking, speaking to you like that??

nobilityobliges · 18/05/2016 18:45

She's been manipulating my daughter into liking ballet? she went and researched a dance place, the teacher and everything and came to us with it all saying she wants her to do ballet.. We said no because we wanted to look into gymnastics for her, but she's been teaching her how to do pirouettes and forcing her to watch Angelina ballerina... Is that a bit weird?

Completely your choice as to whether you want your child to have ballet lessons, but I just can't get worked up about a grandmother teaching a three year old to do pirouettes and letting her (doubt force was involved) watch a cartoon about a ballet dancing mouse. If she enrolled her in classes OBVIOUSLY that's over the line. But to me this is just meh. Sorry I get that you hate her and there might be other examples of stuff that's really bad. But this just seems like nothing to me.

MissElizaBennettsBookmark · 18/05/2016 18:47

Well she's a real charmer isn't she?

My MIL and SIL sound very similar. Enabled for years by my DH who had been bullied from birth wanted a 'quiet life'

Keep your daughter away from her. People like that rarely improve. My own situation only picked up when MIL died and we moved 300+ miles away from SIL, who is now NC from me and my 2 kids thankfully.

Hope the wedding is fab Flowers

leelou905 · 18/05/2016 18:54

WhereYouLeftIt he works away in the Middle East 80% of the year so yes I deal with his mum mostly on my own.

With regards to people saying I'm overreacting, you've only heard snippets of things, and there is much more that makes me believe she is very narcissistic and alienates me a lot towards my daughter. Not only this but in the beginning of my relationship with her son she would often insult me over the dinner table to him and he would come and tell me the things she had said. Not very nice things. I get you all don't know the full picture but don't think I'm over reacting at all. Thanks anyway.

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leelou905 · 18/05/2016 18:59

nobilityobliges I didn't mind the small stuff ie the top thing. I never made a fuss it was just a bit rude. I also don't force my DP to do anything towards his mum, I have always tried to reason with her and never hated her until she started dictating how I should raise our daughter.
The ballet thing isn't a big deal it's the fact that she was rude enough to pursue it even after we said no. And yes she does force her to do those things - it's actually more subtle manipulation.

I have always tried to give her a relationship with my daughter, but I'm afraid enough is enough and I can't tolerate it anymore, especially as my daughter is now rebelling because nanny tells her to. I updated people to let everyone know the outcome this will be my last post.

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WhereYouLeftIt · 19/05/2016 00:53

"Not only this but in the beginning of my relationship with her son she would often insult me over the dinner table to him and he would come and tell me the things she had said. Not very nice things."
Why would he tell you these things? Why not tell her she was out of line and to shut up?

If he's away that much, then I would just stop her coming around and stop her having access to my daughter. She's poison and you need to protect your child.

FfionFlorist · 20/05/2016 10:27

You're a drama queen without a true sense of your own identity. MIL sense your weakness, probably because she was the same as you when she was younger and she has an old fashioned view of herself as queen bee now she is the older woman in the family. . Only one of you needs to change to improve this situation, I suggest that should be you.

MintJulip · 20/05/2016 11:52

but if you're inviting any other family then surely your partner would like his mother there, even if you don't

But if his mother is causing his bride this much trouble why on earth should she be allowed at her wedding?

The bride is nervous, stressed and in tears because a woman who is persecuting her - has to be there? NO!

I'd start with the ultimatum that if she is at the wedding then you won't be ie it's off. Stick to that come hell or high water. If she turns up on the day, walk out
AGREE set this simple boundary.

stick to it.

MintJulip · 20/05/2016 12:12

who cares if she has brought a dress?

wh cares? so what?

MintJulip · 20/05/2016 12:17

i diddl we told them before hand because my partner was worried she would blow a fuse if she found out after. She blew a fuse anyway so it all ended the same way. Too late to take it back now hey.

^this is why everyone does this - to avoid a blow up - confrontation.

what is the worst that can happen?

what is so bad about this nasty piece of work blowing a fuse? let her blow the fuse, she already has and she is coming to your wedding.

You and your dp are adults, supposed to be adults - in numbers only and yet this woman and her fuse are wielding total power over you.

your granddaughter will grow up - probably clinging to granny as she is the only one with a strong character and clear idea of what she wants.

But thats OK because at least you will feel like a nice person Confused

MintJulip · 20/05/2016 12:19

s, but I just can't get worked up about a grandmother teaching a three year old to do pirouettes and letting her (doubt force was involved) watch a cartoon about a ballet dancing mouse

maybe thats because you cant imagine someone being so controlling and petty. I can!

leelou905 · 20/05/2016 12:34

FfionFlorist no, my MIL is an engulfed narcissistic mother. And now that her son has told her no, she's turned into the ignoring narcissistic mother who probably will leave her son stranded at the airport today. If that's being a drama queen then I think you're probably just as narcissistic as my MIL.

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barbet · 20/05/2016 12:37

It's hard to tell without actually seeing the situation, but I will say that a lot of the stuff you describe doesn't actually sound that bad. No, from a normal person they're not. From an abusive person they are.

You're a drama queen without a true sense of your own identity. , bullshit! Total bullshit.

Op, I am so glad to read you coming to your senses about this toxic woman over the course of this thread.

PLEASE look after your daughter and limit the shit she takes from this woman. I'm another from a family that has been totally fucked up by a woman like this, in so so many ways.

barbet · 20/05/2016 12:39

Also Leelou, check out the stately homes thread and the reading material they cite in the first post: it might help you support your DH too. He has a fuck of a journey to go on I'm afraid and you're no way near out of the woods yet.

EatsShitAndLeaves · 20/05/2016 12:55

Well done OP. You are right - it not about Ballet, it's about undermining you and your DP.

I think that's a good first step on the boundary front :-)

Good luck with the wedding - with any luck she won't be there, but can I suggest that given her current mood, you have a back up plan if she turns up and makes a scene? Perhaps a word with someone else attending that would deal with her firmly and leave you and DP out of any drama?

EatsShitAndLeaves · 20/05/2016 12:59

Fion - your post is a helpful as a bucket with a hole and ill-considered.

Have a Biscuit

MintJulip · 20/05/2016 13:04

it not about Ballet, it's about undermining you and your DP.

unless you have had this its hard to understand which surprises me when people comment with no experience or understanding.

The scene in brides maids in the wedding dress shop, one girl knows the other has severe food poising and wants to throw up, so she offers her a sweet.

Some posters would say " oh but that was so kind, she offered her a sweet". Grin

leelou905 · 20/05/2016 13:06

Im trying to think of a back up plan Incase she turns up. I think if I just text her to say, don't come. I don't think she would make the 3 hour journey. I haven't got any other guests at my wedding otherwise I would gladly of just gotten someone willing to help me out. You can all come if you want, be my bodyguards haha.

I'm actually wondering if she's going to be as horrible to leave her son standing at the airport today - she was due to pick him up but given that he's rebelled against her, she's now turned him into the scapegoat.

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ChocolateBubbleBarsmakemefat · 20/05/2016 13:08

I wish you good luck at your wedding, make sure the day is about you and your DP and not her if she does turn up. Take no shit from her at all on the day , in fact take no shit from her from this day forward.

You are in control of your family not her, the sooner she see's that she has messed with the wrong person the better.

Clandestino · 20/05/2016 13:09

You're a drama queen without a true sense of your own identity.

Wow, that's bollix.

CaveMum · 20/05/2016 13:11

Can you not tell the venue that she us not welcome and therefore should not be allowed in?

Penfold007 · 20/05/2016 13:12

leelou as you and DH are having no guests why not cancel the wedding and rebook it for another day but tell NO ONE.

leelou905 · 20/05/2016 13:13

Haha I could tell them but I doubt there's much they can do to stop her. It's a hotel. So it's open to the public. I'm not bothered if she does turn up, I would be shocked, but I don't really want to stress about it. I know that I will be going no contact with her and my daughter anyway so I have my plan set out.

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leelou905 · 20/05/2016 13:14

Hi penfold, I've been told that I can't do that as would need to go and give notice to get married again and with DP working away he only has this time available. I'd rather just get married on the day we've booked and deal with MIL separately.

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