To be annoyed by the super rich flaunting their wealth whilst normal people struggle

[Mrskeats]

www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/may/10/tamara-ecclestone-10k-playhouse-super-rich-uk-destitution
Some people have no shame

And the Guardian is a middle class trying to be leftie newspaper what do the Guardian owners do ?

OP- are you seriously telling me if you won the lottery tomorrow (let's say 30 million for sake of argument) you would continue to shop in ALDI, buy your childrens clothes in supermarkets and look out for deals for their christmas presents?

I highly, highly doubt it.

Mind your own business. At least this is one "celebrity" who actually seems to spend time with her child.

I didn't say being raised with money makes you horrible, spoilt or a brat. However, spending obscene amounts of money on clothes and toys for children probably will. But then TE is a spoilt brat herself so what can you expect.

luna there are lots of rich people who live comfortably but not excessively, preferring to put their wealth to better use. TE is not one of them.

TE is a spoilt brat herself so what can you expect.

You seem to know a lot about her InSpace

Not really limited but she is typical of modern celebrities, who make sure they get so much publicity that everyone knows all about them whether they want to or not. I actually try to take as little notice as possible of such vain, vacuous people.

What's a modern celebrity? What's the golden age of celebrities who didn't court publicity?

i feel sorry for her sister Petra waking up to her revolting husband

money cant buy looks

What makes me laugh is when they say during the housing crisis.. Like TE could just build a couple of playhouses in her back yard to assist with the lack of social housing

I know Tamara get the hard hat on love roll your sleeves up

Do you know what? She probably never even paid for that wendy house. Rich bastards never put their hands in their pockets if they can help it. That's why they're rich.

I would like to live in her daughters wendy house

was cycling thru the cemetery and viewing the amazing mausoleums that have recently been built- as big as 2 story bungalows ! Also thought i wd live in one of them!

"Very true.

And this is probably exactly why people cheer Bernie Ecclestone on.

He was the son of a fisherman who went to a polytechnic, and amassed himself a £4bn personal fortune through his own business acumen in developing the Formula One brand."

What he has achieved is amazing. Particularly as it seems to have come from trying to have a successful racing career (failing at that) but then ending up running F1. He is definitely one of those who has made it. Although, he is not one of the richest people in the world. Just in Britain.

Of course, I would have more cause to cheer him on if he hadn't tried to bribe a sitting Prime Minister, avoided paying tax and bribed a judge. Perhaps that is where my "business acumen" lets me down.

I really cannot be arsed with arguments stating what proportion of tax the super rich pay in comparison with the plebs as if that is supposed to be an example of "ooh, look how they pay their way". Ok, we have marginal tax rates but if there wasn't such massive income inequality the figures would not be nearly so skewed. It's a product of severe income inequality not "look how they subsidise you all, shut up and be grateful".

Saying that, I don't really care about the dolls house.

Really really like your post, EddieStovart.

Interesting FT article on executive pay from a couple of days ago link

i feel sorry for her sister Petra waking up to her revolting husband

Completely beside the point of the thread but yes - how did this happen? Absolutely astonishing turn of events.

The rich have always done what they want.
These people are held up as an "example" because they have money. We live in a very materialistic society. People associate money with happiness, or at least the ability to buy what they fancy without a care in the world with such money. Like the whole concept of the American Dream. What hacks me off, though, is that Donald Trump is touting himself as a great example of an American success story. How?? This would imply that he started off from nothing and over time built up his $4bn wealth. Bollocks!! He was BORN into wealth. His father gave him a loan of $1m to do something (I forget what). What I don't get is how he can appeal to America's poor. The Trump Organisation is the company his father originally started. There was never any job uncertainty for him.
But I digress. We can never understand what the rich do and why they do it. Plus of course not all super rich people are wealth-flaunters like TE; see Bill Gates (who at least started his own company), as well as JK Rowling who actually lost her billionaire status as she gave so much away to charity.
But I do understand the annoyance OP. The super rich are a weird lot. More money than sense- what seems blatantly obvious to us does not appear so to them.

For all those claiming that objecting to inequality is just an expression of "bitterness" or "resentment", not in my case. Without going into (irrelevant) details, I'm not scraping by but I think growing inequality is the most pressing political issue in the UK and I am more than happy to pay my taxes and for those taxes to be used to level the playing field. I consider it my social duty and it is the LEAST I can do - I do some social benefit work for free, but as I work full time I don't contribute much more than my taxes.

As I and BaconYum and InSpace and others have said:

• some inequality is ok and to be expected, but gross inequality causes huge social problems (take a look at South Africa, if you like)
• the tax system in the UK is designed to combat inequality, so all everyone needs to do is pay their taxes (all the comments people are making about charity are irrelevant)
• what people spend their money on is also irrelevant. No-one should care about rich people buying stupid things, or poor people buying stupid things, just that we have a tax system that addresses inequality (we do) and that everyone pays their taxes (they don't)

La

I agree with most of your post but

"just that we have a tax system that addresses inequality (we do) ".

We don't. There are many, many more ways that it could address inequality. Taxing wealth as well as income (poor at the moment). Taxing income ahead of taxing expenditure (poor at the moment). Providing incentives to contribute through development and enterprise rather than tax incentives to large corporate (poor at the moment). Taxing financial speculation (none at all at the moment).

It is better than many, but the tax system itself is part of the problem.

unexpsoc good point and I agree that the system as it stands is imperfect.

I am so focused on the basics, however - everyone must pay their taxes and not avoid their taxes - that I can't really see beyond the glaring unfairness we currently have where employees (by and large) cannot avoid tax whereas the self-employed and super-wealthy are able to treat their tax burden as optional.

When successful people marry a spouse who is much younger than they are (the mother of the 2 sisters) and a model they tend to produce children who may be aren't as bright as they are. However I don't think it's unwise that the daughters have invested their money in large houses. Property is a wise investment.
The play house is neithere here nor there.

Providing people pay their taxes and have earned their money, I have no issue with playhouses. I'm more likely to be outraged by a benefit claimant going on a weeks inclusive to turkey or loading up their trolley with alcohol and cigarettes, because if they're being supported by the State (and by association my taxes), I have have input into how their income is spent.

the rich have the taxation system loaded/unloaded in their favour. They do not pay their fair share- never mind the total tax dodgers who use tax havens . The state does far more 'supporting ' of the rich than the poor.