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To think swimming teachers are obsessed with putting face in water

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2catsnowaiting · 09/05/2016 14:24

Here's the thing. All my children love going to the pool and enjoy playing in the water. All of them, at a young age hate or hated putting their face in the water.

The older two taught themselves to swim by using flotation jackets, from which I gradually removed the floats, until they were able to swim without the jacket. I tried the same thing with the youngest, but he has now outgrown the jacket and no sign of any bouyancy at all. He can just about swim with a noodle float but even that is a struggle.

I'm wondering whether to put him in for swimming lessons, however, from my limited experience of it, it seems that swimming teachers are obsessed with making kids put their faces in the water, as if this is more important than actual swimming, and you can't learn to swim without doing so. I know this is not the case as my oldest got her 10m badge swimming with her head out of the water. She then did 6 weeks of lessons with school, at the end of which she would put her face in the water, and then they said she could get her 10m badge, which she already had before she started - how is that progress? I realise that if you are planning to become a professional or competitive swimmer, then you need to learn correct technique, but clearly none of mine are, I just want them to enjoy swimming for fun/exercise. My mum is in her 60s and still swims with her head out of the water, it's never done her any harm.

My worry is, (and the reason the older two have never had swimming lessons outside the very few they had with school) that he will start to hate going swimming because the teachers will make him put his face in the water. I would rather he loved going to the pool and couldn't swim than started to hate it.

Has anyone experienced swimming lessons where they do not insist they have to put their faces in to make any progress? I'm unwilling to pay good money for someone to make my child do something he hates.

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HisNameWasPrinceAndHeWasFunky · 09/05/2016 15:07

It's not all to do with swimming and everything to do with water confidence.

If your child falls in a body of water, it's not much good being able to swim 10 or 20 meters, if they get in a total (and very dangerous panic) because their head has gone under the water.

Dancergirl · 09/05/2016 15:08

If my child was swimming without his/head in the water I'd want my money back!

They have to learn to put their head in the water to swim properly. OP - get your ds some goggles and get him to practice in the bath. That's how my dd learnt years ago (she also hated getting her face wet). I was amazed how quickly after putting her face in she learnt to swim.

HisNameWasPrinceAndHeWasFunky · 09/05/2016 15:09

I'd recommend the bigger style of goggles for children - much more comfy. Similar to this: www.amazon.co.uk/Aqua-Sphere-Seal-Swimming-Goggles/dp/B00I0UKKD4/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1462802948&sr=8-2&keywords=goggles

sleepwhenidie · 09/05/2016 15:12

The teachers that my dc's had wouldn't even allow goggles until the dc's could swim competently without them, again on the basis that they need to not be fazed by their face being in the water without them.

lamusic · 09/05/2016 15:14

I've always been an underwater swimmer, i am physically unable to keep my head up when I swim. What are they going to do if they jump in? Force of gravity means the face goes under?

SouperSal · 09/05/2016 15:14

My DD was phobic about putting her face in the water. Started swimming lessons at 4 with a brilliant teacher who started with mouth blowing bubbles in the water, then blowing through the nose before full face in the water. Took about 4 lessons for her to be happy with it. A year on and it's a job to stop her doing handstands and somersaults under water at her lessons. Grin

Roobix04 · 09/05/2016 15:14

Not sure op is coming back.

ReedBunting · 09/05/2016 15:15

The aquasphere goggles mentioned above are great. we got ours from wiggle as they have free delivery and put sweeties in the package!

dancemom · 09/05/2016 15:16

NickiFury as a swimming teacher I wouldn't move any child up who is yet to be comfortable submerging. You say your dd is quite a good swimmer but if she doesn't put her face in she can't be doing any of the strokes correctly.

ladypie21 · 09/05/2016 15:16

I always swam with face out of the water, until I went back and learned the proper way last year and the difference is unreal. I could never really go very far and struggled with neck ache and can now see that I wasn't really swimming properly until I put my face in the water. You're much more streamlined and efficient and I find it much more enjoyable now. My kids hated putting their faces in the water when they started and would flinch and cry with the tiniest splash but with decent goggles and fun lessons they were both swimming/gliding under water in no time which progresses very quickly to swimming properly.

Alisvolatpropiis · 09/05/2016 15:20

Yabu

ExConstance · 09/05/2016 15:21

I certainly never put my face in the water when swimming, I do a sort of modified crawl to avoid it.

SnookieSnooks · 09/05/2016 15:23

YABU. If you fall in some water you are likely to get your face wet.

ItsAllGoingToBeFine · 09/05/2016 15:27

YABU - DD hated putting her face in the water (and putting her head back for backstroke). Every lesson the teacher would encourage the kids to do this (encourage, not make), and it was no big deal if they wouldn't/couldn't.

3 or 4 terms later, and DD is absolutely fine with it.

SquirrelledAway · 09/05/2016 15:27

Head up front crawl is really hard work - your legs and hips sink and you create more drag, plus you place a lot of strain on your neck.

EarthboundMisfit · 09/05/2016 15:37

Yabu...it takeas no time for them to get over disliking it.

DrWhy · 09/05/2016 16:55

We did heads up front crawl as waterpolo training as you need to be able to watch the play during the game but my god it's hard work! Definitely not going to encourage them to enjoy swimming if that's what they are trying to do!
As a zillion PPs have said, from a safety point of view they need to get their faces in the water.

pilates · 09/05/2016 17:14

YABU

They will get used to it. As others have said, if they accidentally fall in to the water they need to be able to react without panicking.

ShatnersBassoon · 09/05/2016 17:21

Putting your head under water is essential for general water safety ie if you fall off a pier, the sensation of your head being submerged isn't going to make you panic; you'll know how to hold your breath and resurface.

It's not an obsession, just a very useful skill to be taught.

mrsmalcolmreynolds · 09/05/2016 17:31

Hi OP. Like most (all?) others, I'm afraid YABU although somewhat understandably so - my DD has had two failed goes at swimming lessons due to getting stuck at the point where she needed to start putting her face in the water. It is very frustrating, and also upsetting to see them getting worked up over something which you hope they will find fun!

We've recently had great success with DD (she is 6.5) using a technique like this www.enjoy-swimming.com/overcoming-fear-of-water-1.html to get her more comfortable - we've been doing it with her in the bath, wearing goggles (and recently further incentivised with a My Little Pony swimming hat Grin. We've really turned a corner and she was splashing about under the water perfectly happily at the pool this weekend.

Believeitornot · 09/05/2016 17:33

I'm not sure how you swim properly without putting your face in the water....

So YABU I'm afraid.

WeAllHaveWings · 09/05/2016 17:37

Agree with most of above, but if you are certain you want him to learn with face out you could try 1-1 lessons but expect it to take much longer.

YABU to expect teaching with face out in a group setting

Ameliablue · 09/05/2016 17:46

I don't swim with my face in the water as this wasn't seen as important in the large group lessons we had but now I find swimming a struggle as I end up stiff and sore.
My youngest used to hate putting her face in the water and we had to withdraw her from lessons as a result as they were making her more fearful, however we spent time encouraging her and eventually she did start putting her face in the water and returned to lessons and is now a competent swimmer.
It sounds from your description that you don't really think swimming is that important so haven't encouraged your children to get over their dislike of putting their face in the water.

Excited101 · 09/05/2016 17:58

I agree with everything everyone said!

lljkk · 09/05/2016 18:04

OP has tried goggles, right??

I never learnt to swim until I got goggles (as an adult, Americans don't' use enough). So I didn't learn to swim beyond doggie paddle as a child. I'm so proud to be able to swim decently now as an adult, because I have decent goggles. Yes kids really need to put face in water to learn to be strong swimmers.