Should Disney have a same sex couple?

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Just getting views.

This is something I feel like Disney movies should have.

Being in a same sex couple is nothing to hide from children.

I'm all for Disney having a same sex couple but not Elsa!

I'm all for a same sex relationship in a Disney film but not Elsa!

But why? Why no gay relationships in Disney? And why just not Elsa?

No its all make believe and fairy tales. I hate agendas being forced into kids programming. I'd rather wait til my DS was older to explain differences based on sexual preferences when He will be better able to grasp the differences but equal status. We are making our young kids lives so complicated trying to ensure they understand every perspective on everything. It just causes confusion.

Dm - I'm with you

I have one DD who has grown up with two mothers and one who was adopted aged 4. Both of them just accept it. It really isn't so difficult for kids to get their head around. What I would really like though is for them to have some kind of books/movies they can access (they are 6 and 4) that reflect the parental setup they recognise. Everything that's shoved down their throat at the moment tells them that the whole world has a mother and a father and they know that isn't true. Obviously they are in the minority but you know, it would be nice.

DM but that isn't practical. If your child encounters others with same sex parents you're going to have to have that conversation. And actually, kids are so accepting it's almost less of an issue the younger they are.

Although my favourite Disney is brave - Merida is the best role model yet!

Something makes me really want to say no but I have no idea why.

I think cbeebies and Cbbc should do it!

I think a lot of people aren't against Else being gay just Elsa not having a partner at all. The whole moral of the story is about sisterly love being used as the example of true love rather than that of a partner!

I hate agendas being forced into kids programming.

Then why don't you oppose the heterosexual agenda and the idealisation of absolute monarchy in Disney movies?

If gay people existing is an "agenda" then so is heterosexual people not only existing, but singing about their love for a whole movie.

Just saying.

Frozen had some horrible, horrible parts with propaganda for marrying shitty men in order to "fix them up" and you are worried about homosexuality being presented as one option of many?

I'd rather wait til my DS was older to explain differences based on sexual preferences when He will be better able to grasp the differences but equal status.

Are you worried your son might be confused as to why homosexual couples do not have the same rights as heterosexual couples when he learns at too young an age that homosexual couples exist?

Because other than that, I can think of no confusion that could occur.

Are you worried he might not grasp that you would want him to not consider homosexual couples too equal?

Disney films are camp enough

No its all make believe and fairy tales. I hate agendas being forced into kids programming.

But these days same-sex relationships are accepted as normal. The agenda is from those who think they're wrong.

I think a lot of people aren't against Else being gay just Elsa not having a partner at all. The whole moral of the story is about sisterly love being used as the example of true love rather than that of a partner!

Yeah, I do think Elsa should be allowed to remain single. However, in a sequel I would like to see her name Anna's children as her heirs, so that the people who thought she would marry a male to continue the line will see that she won't.

A new movie should have a lesbian couple, though. There obviously is a great demand, if you look at the fanfic, and as there'd be more princesses to sell merchandise for, I can see no downside for Disney.

Disney is a commercial product. It is designed to appeal to as many people as possible and be sold in as many countries as possible. Having a homosexual couple would limit this so why would they do it?

Also heterosexuality is the much more common state and you want characters children and adults can relate to so again having a homosexual couple as the main characters would limit its appeal - something you try hard to avoid when you want to sell as many as possible.

I wouldn't have a problem with a gay couple in Disney or anywhere else: it seems pretty mainstream to me and not exactly forcing an agenda on anyone. But I would object to forcing it, or any other relationship, on a film which specifically features an independent female being successful outside the parameters of a romantic relationship: that to me would seem like pushing an agenda. The agenda that women do not exist as single individuals but are defined by relationships. Not too keen on that one myself, despite being happily married for over 20 years.

Having a homosexual couple would limit this so why would they do it?

Oh I dunno, because it's the right thing to do?

As for relatability, why can a straight person not relate to a homosexual? And Disney has plenty of straight characters so it's not as if a straight person who find gay people totally unrelatablr () won't see themselves represented.

Right or wrong they exist to sell a product. There are vast swathes of America which would not buy a 'homosexual' product and other countries where such a couple would put an outright ban on the film (and possibly other of their films too).

Also heterosexuality is the much more common state and you want characters children and adults can relate to so again having a homosexual couple as the main characters would limit its appeal - something you try hard to avoid when you want to sell as many as possible.

People don't seem have problems to relate to unrealistically pretty main characters most of whom are royals.

If it was about what is most common, they'd have to have poor Chinese main characters.

Also, in my opinion, the children to whom Disney movies are mainly marketed should not have any interest in marriage at all, homosexual OR heterosexual - yet the movies are all about getting married in the end.

Blae they have enough money though. They can take the hit.

Disney already has a massive sexist slant towards girls thinking marriage is a life goal. I don't care if they show same sex marriages but more inspirational females would be good.

"Also heterosexuality is the much more common state and you want characters children and adults can relate to so again having a homosexual couple as the main characters would limit its appeal - something you try hard to avoid when you want to sell as many as possible."

At a guess, there are more lesbian women around than princesses. Never stopped Disney before. Mermaids, of course, are two a penny... And young girls who sleep for a hundred years (actually no, I think I have got one of those).

People don't seem have problems to relate to unrealistically pretty main characters most of whom are royals

Social status and for that matter figures in authority are familiar and recognisable to children. Sexuality is a different matter.

Corythatwas you have summed it up perfectly. I have no objection to gay or lesbian characters in Disney movies but I really dislike this idea that because a woman is single then she MUST be paired up.

Gay people are just normal people. Who are recognisable.