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To ask if it's a good thing that London has a Muslim mayor

612 replies

DoesFlossfloss · 06/05/2016 21:17

Because my London based in-laws are not happy and I've not been following the campaign as I'm not in London so don't really care. However, we're seeing PILs this weekend and it will be up for discussion.

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Whatthefoxgoingon · 06/05/2016 22:41

Totally proud to live in a city where colour or creed don't matter. Just hope he does a good job as mayor!

DoesFlossfloss · 06/05/2016 22:43

Thanks to those who are attempting to answer my question.

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GarlicShake · 06/05/2016 22:50

Sadiq was my MP. It's a difficult constituency and he did a great job.

I think he's still the Tooting MP, isn't he? Must have been there for ages - which speaks well of him.

Also, he's a real Londoner. Born, bred & lived, rather than floating through it in taxis on his way somewhere else.

PaulAnkaTheDog · 06/05/2016 22:51

Tbf op I think most of the responses are giving you an idea in how to deal with your in-laws.

Notabeararaccoon · 06/05/2016 22:51

Oh stealthpolar Grin sadisticles will they remove the saddles do you think?

Spermysextowel · 06/05/2016 22:52

Just tell your PILS that it's not something that you had a right to express an opinion on via a vote, but that those who did have done.

tilder · 06/05/2016 22:52

At least a decision on Heathrow might be made now.

That is how the mayoral election matters to me (I'm not a londoner).

The religion of the candidates? Meh. Their business. Not mine.

RedToothBrush · 06/05/2016 22:54

Its a good thing if it makes your racist relatives squirm.

I like making racists squirm.

Do you like racists squirm?

It should be made a sport.

hownottofuckup · 06/05/2016 22:54

People aren't defined by their religious beliefs

Actually I think they kind of are, aren't they? Isn't that the point?
However, being Muslim leaves a lot of scope as to what that person's interpretation of the religion might be.

Ricardian · 06/05/2016 22:55

I think he's still the Tooting MP,

Not for long. Which is going to be a grey lining to a silver cloud, because he has quite a small majority and the by-election could be a bit tasty for politics wonks.

BoneyBackJefferson · 06/05/2016 22:56

TradGirl

I mean, yeah, all right, the English voted in Call me Dave

Not all of us did.

ParadiseCity · 06/05/2016 22:58

Maybe they could fix hand baskets to the sadisticles it sounds fairly hellish.

Justanotherlurker · 06/05/2016 22:58

mobile.twitter.com/BBCVickiYoung/status/728686954813001736

If you look for follow up tweets it could be goldsmith taking even more of a hit or something else.

The conversation could yet be different.

raisedbyguineapigs · 06/05/2016 22:58

I think it's important that the best candidate for the job was elected, and I think Sadiq Khan was that. But I do think that his religion is important in that we need to see moderate Muslims in the public eye. They are the ones receiving death threats and in one case at least, being murdered by other muslims. They are the ones being silenced by people from within their own community. People need to see Sadiq Khan, a successful and articulate man who is also a Muslim and Nadiya Hussein writing books, buying her family a house and making cakes for the Queen, with a clearly loving and supportive husband who is completely unnthreatened by her success.

squoosh · 06/05/2016 22:59

'I think he's still the Tooting MP, isn't he?'

I read something earlier that said the press will frame Sadiq's win as 'Corbyn loses Tooting MP'

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howabout · 06/05/2016 23:05

I am massively pleased about this. Once the dust settles on condemning Zac maybe people should start thinking a bit about what DC was doing for 30 minutes of PMQs this week fomenting racial division. He was giving the impression to the watching World that the UK is some sort of xenophobic cesspit. London has firmly said not in our name and I in Scotland firmly agree.

The thing which makes me sad is that Sadiq is a real London working class boy made good and I don't think the ladder is there for future generations to aspire to use him as a role model.

TreaterAnita · 06/05/2016 23:08

nauticant, I'm not buying the 'Lynton Crosby made me do it' schtick, that's just a desperate attempt to rehabilitate him now it's failed. They know what they're signing up to. Some of them (BJ and DC to an extent) pull it off with a degree of charm, others (eg GO and ZG) can't quite manage it.

hownottofuckup No, I don't think you religion does define you. SK is a moderate Muslim and a HR lawyer. I very much doubt that he would give his personal beliefs greater weight than his mandate when determining policy decisions.

RedToothBrush · 06/05/2016 23:12

I'm in NI and thank God we will never see a Muslim mayor! Is this not the guy who referred to moderate Muslims as Uncle Toms? Yet women here seem to think he is fine? Remember you backed him, when your rights are eroded! No wonder England is going to hell in a hand-basket.

NI where the courts ruled that the law on abortion was unlawful and should be changed as it violated human rights under NI and EU law.
But there is no legal obligation to actually change the unlawful law (go figure).
So when Stormont voted on what they should do about it, they voted to do what?

Yep you've guessed it. They voted to keep the unlawful law because they are full of the joys of libertarianism. That'll be the Catholics and the Protestants just for anyone who is unclear which ones are the bigots.

And this is against a back drop of polls saying that the public of Northern Ireland want the unlawful law on abortion changed because well, its shit, unlawful and isn't a very good show for human rights.

I'm pretty sure though that a hell of a lot of that public who want that unlawful law changed still went out and voted for these virtuous bastions and advocates of human rights this week. Because NI politics are not in any way screwed up by bigots who don't give a damn about human rights because of their religion.

Yet women seem to think this is fine... and are worried about a Muslim winning a Mayor election in London and how this will affect the rights of women and other groups.

sigh

DoesFlossfloss · 06/05/2016 23:14

My PILs aren't racist but they do fear Islam. I've been googling and see SK's wife and daughters don't cover their heads and faces which might allay some of MIL's fears.

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GarlicShake · 06/05/2016 23:15

I enjoyed those tweets, lurker :)

To ask if it's a good thing that London has a Muslim mayor
bolleauxnouveau · 06/05/2016 23:16

doesn't Katie Hopkins now have to run up Oxford street naked, with a sausage up her bum?

WakeUpFast · 06/05/2016 23:17

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nauticant · 06/05/2016 23:19

I agree TreaterAnita. If Goldsmith wants to run the argument that a big boy did it and ran away he's saying he's an empty vessel. So, he's either a dog-whistling racist shit or vacuous. Either view is fine with me.

tilder · 06/05/2016 23:19

Oh dear. It's that classic line. I'm not/ they're not racist but.

Doesn't really sound great.

I'm sorry your pils are fearful. Am sure that a human rights lawyer will be along to help them out.

WriteforFun1 · 06/05/2016 23:21

I could be wrong but I don't think Khan is a practicing Muslim. I read somewhere he's a secular Muslim which to me means he's an atheist.

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