To ask if it's a good thing that London has a Muslim mayor

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Because my London based in-laws are not happy and I've not been following the campaign as I'm not in London so don't really care. However, we're seeing PILs this weekend and it will be up for discussion.

I came on to comment on the 'hordes of Muslims together' comment too.

I know exactly how you feel, Beau. Where I live there are hordes of white people walking around. hordes of them! I fear for the neighbourhood, I tell you.

I've only been in London for 22 years and I clearly remember IRA bomb scares being a common occurance. My office was even cleared once as they detonated a bomb in the alley behind it (using a robot). We've only recently had bins back on the tube stations - albeit clear plastic bag bins. They took the bins away due to IRA terror campaigns.

On and lets not forget the London nail bomb campaign of 1999 including the fatal bomb attack in the Admiral Nelson in Soho - the bomber was a white, London born man. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Copeland

I voted for Khan as he is Labour. But I admit to having reservations about him, because of his past.

I voted for Khan as he is Labour. But I admit to having reservations about him, because of his past.

Odd that Labour voters who worry about Khan's "past" seemed less concerned about Livingstone, who invited actual blowing shit up terrorists to have meetings with him.

Oh yes. Coz Livingstone came in for no criticism during this election campaign.

I'm intrigued .. You know what my views are on Ken Livingstone?

unless I am wrong his past is the fact that his sister was once married to an extremist preacher, who she has since divorced and he is estranged from for over a decade?

Hardly paid up Hamas membership!

My brother attended (police officer) either the Hyde Park or Regents park bombings ( I can;t remember which ) in 1982 (11 people killed).

My school was next to Regents Park and I suffered a minor injury after being thrown off my feet my the explosion (along with the rest of the children in the playground).
My DM is an Irish Catholic and I remember her suffering racist comments around that time from people.

Given my DM is no more an Irish terrorist anymore than I am, I have no reason to think London's new mayor is a terrorist or a supporter of them.

By posting OP you have shown yourself and your Pils to be ignorant, Londoners thankfully aren't.

You are wrong stop! Well at least you are if you believe that is all there is in Khan's past.

What else is there?

Have a look yourself. There are quite a few unsavoury things in SK's past. Certainly enough to give someone like me 2nd thoughts anyway...The trouble was, the alternative was Z Goldsmith -- need I say more?

There are quite a few unsavoury things in SK's past.

Mostly of the form "was once in a room with..."

Why don't you just tell us about the unsavory things? So much easier. And you must have them at your fingertips.

yes I'd love to know what these "unsavoury things" are too.

Goldsmith was fond of saying over and over again things like "I'm in no way saying SK has links with terrorists or extremists" and I found that very fucking annoying. Utterly shit low dirty politics.

Now posters on this thread are doing the same thing.

What are these unsavory facts about SK exactly?

Goldsmith was fond of saying over and over again things like "I'm in no way saying SK has links with terrorists or extremists"

What made that particularly nasty was that part of the smear was about Khan's former brother in law. Now, let's talk about Goldsmith's former brother in law, eh? And while we're at it, if family is being dragged into it, Goldsmith's father?

I'm a Londoner and I voted for Sadiq Khan, as did my dh. He was the better candidate by far. I couldn't give a toss about his religion.

Sadiq Khan grew up as an ordinary Londoner in ordinary circumstances, similar to mine - council estate, no privilege, hard graft, work for everything you get.

Zac Goldsmith was born in to a billion pound dynasty with most of his wealth non-domiciled. His dad was a massive fat tax dodger and Zac grew up in a bubble of privilege, stratospheric luxury and entitlement. He only gave up his non-dom status when Dave forced him to so he could be elected MP for Richmond.

If people are whinging about a conversation Khan may or may not have had with an alleged 'extremist' or two - I'd actually prefer that than take the Thatcher approach (as she did with the IRA) and shut all dialogue down as well as smash the unions and fuck over the print workers but hey that's another story

And someone on here has already said he was "making a statement" by going to a Holocaust Memorial service on his first day as Mayor. As if before he was Mayor he wouldn't have done.

As the saying goes " Drip drip drip............bloody hell. Where did that great sloshing bucketful come from?"

I also remember people associating me with the IRA in the 70s and 80s. It came as quite a shock as, until I left home, I had never considered myself Irish. Catholic yes, but like other posters, I had never been to Ireland, we had always cheered for England in the world cup etc. Yet suddenly people were asking me what I was going to do about the Guildford and Birmingham bombings. It dismays me to see it happening all over again.

Maybe Zac would have won if he'd actually came out and said what he thought about Khan's alleged dodgy connections.

Or maybe the laws regarding liable and slander stopped him...

hahaha at Beauglacons post . "hordes of muslims" - for real?
what about the hordes of jews in Stamford Hill and Golders Green?
or the hordes of Irish down in Archway and Kentish Town? and the hordes of black people in Wood Green ? the hordes of Turks in Manor house? The hordes of Japanese in Woodside Park? the hordes of Greeks in Southgate?that's the thing about where I live in North London. There's just bloody hordes of everyone. Tsk.

Seriously though Beau, do have the courtesy and brains to spell the name correctly: it's SADIQ and not "Saddique".

I would genuinely like to know what these unsavoury things are.

Whilst we are at it lets also mention the fact that the Queen has some serious explaining to do.

She met Mandela (admitted, tried and convicted terrorist)
Some of her family had dubious likings for and connections with Hitler
She had regular meetings with Tony Blair (who shook hands with Gaddiffi and Saddam Hussein. I'll gloss over the war crime accusations on him personally)
She met Robert Mugabe (before he got thrown out of the Commonwealth)
She met King Hamad Al-Khalifa of Bahrain shortly after he swooshed the Arab Rising there.
She had regular meetings with Margaret Thatcher (arms to Iraq anyone? Again I'll gloss over other accusations about her morality)
She's shaken the hand of Martin McGuiness and got her son to shake Gerry Adams hand
She has also never visited Israel. So obviously is anti-Semitic given all the places and people she has met / visited. (Especially due to the Nazi connection)
Amongst many, many others.

If we are judged by the company we keep / the family we are related to, she's up there as one of the greatest monsters in the last century.

Whilst we are at it lets also mention the fact that the Queen has some serious explaining to do.

[grin]@Ricardian

Isn't this really the 'Obama is only one letter from Osama' debate for the UK?

I'm waiting for SK to be asked to show his birth certificate.

[grin]@RedToothBrush