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AIBU?

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Reception aged kids in pushchairs?

257 replies

RequestInUse · 04/05/2016 15:18

Maybe I just have my judgy pants on, maybe they have a really long walk. But AIBU to think school aged children are generally too old for a pushchair?

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MintJulip · 04/05/2016 21:48

Mine will be tomorrow, our car is broken and I feel ill, and its a good half hour 40 mins to the school, There is no way I am walking with heavy toddler who will demand to be carried after half way and I am struggling with headache!

thewalrus · 04/05/2016 21:50

When DD 1 started school, DT s were 3. Walk to school is shortish but steep and I could not physically push them (am also short). So they were out of buggy just after3rd birthday. God, I envied the parentsthat stuck their kids in a buggy! i suppose my point is you never knknow what's behind people's choices. Having said that, I think you've had a hard time here, OP!

sleeponeday · 04/05/2016 21:54

My cousin is autistic, he also has realised that his teachers will make allowances for him and this is a free ticket to behave horrendously. At home he cant get away with it and doesn't play up. Yeah I have experience of SEN but my opinion is coloured by my own experience of it.

Interesting, Alexa, that you now have a cousin as well as a friend who uses or used autism as a blank cheque to behave appallingly. You really do seem to know a lot of autistic people with astonishingly atypical presentations.

DixieNormas · 04/05/2016 22:03

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fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 04/05/2016 22:13

What a load of tosh

Alfieisnoisy · 04/05/2016 22:14

Or your cousin behaves poorly because he is in an environment which stresses him out. But don't let that interfere with your ignorance will you? Hmm

Parent of an autistic child here who gets fucked off with idiotic comments like yours Alexa.

Take a look at how the environment and sensory issues affect those with autism...you might learn something.

sleeponeday · 04/05/2016 22:15

Well, it's actually an improvement upon: My friend is ASD and he admits that he got away with murder when he was little by blaming things on his autism and even in college he would use it as an excuse. You know your son best, if you think he is having you on and using it to run rings around you then he probably is. Kids are going to hit him back from time to time, it is unavoidable and tbh it is probably a good thing. If nothing else it may help him empathise with how they feel when hit.

As I say, a very surprising selection of views from someone with an autistic relative and an autistic close friend. I mean, it lacks all comprehension of the diagnostic criteria, as well as the educational provision and the parenting advice.

gandalf456 · 04/05/2016 22:17

I used the buggy a couple of times in Reception when ds was ill - and the looks i got!!! I did feel he was a little old so switched to the scooter. That's just my personal feeling for me, though, and the fact that nobody used the buggy at our school . However, they were all happy to drive....

I do understand why people use the buggy, though, so would never look down on anyone for it. I did get comments from 3.5 to four but brushed them off and figured that, if they were that worried, they could get him home kicking and screaming minus the buggy. While i was the one responsible for getting him home, I was the one who got to decide how I did it

Alexa444 · 04/05/2016 22:18

Just two, sleep. My friend has aspergers and social anxiety. My knowledge there is anecdotal from his mum, I've never seen him do it, he was 17 when I met him. My little cousin (9) has a boatload of issues that they are still trying to get to the bottom of, one of which may or may not be borderline schizophrenia. We don't know but it is usually pretty easy to tell when his behaviour is genuinely a result of autism and when he is just trying it on. The smirk gives him away for a start.

nancyclancy123 · 04/05/2016 22:23

As I've already mentioned I still use a push chair occasionally for my daughter who has ASD. I've just suddenly remembered that a little while ago I used to let her go in a push chair (tired or not) when she was anxious because it gave her security. She could adjust the hood and see the world how she wanted to.

We don't use it that often now, but I don't feel I can get rid of it yet either.

sleeponeday · 04/05/2016 22:23

The smirk gives him away for a start.

I did a course called Early Bird, run by the National Autistic Society. It's peer-reviewed. The ed psych and the Advisory Teaching Service professional running it talked with us about the way those who know nothing about autism will point to, "that little smile" or "that smirk!" to indicate that a child "knows exactly what they are doing". It's actually confusion, and the child having no clue what is expected of them, or what the adult wants.

Please, continue. Happy to educate.

Alexa444 · 04/05/2016 22:23

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sleeponeday · 04/05/2016 22:28

My little cousin (9) has a boatload of issues that they are still trying to get to the bottom of, one of which may or may not be borderline schizophrenia.

I'm sorry, please clarify - is this very small and very vulnerable child you are busily painting as a mini-Machiavelli diagnosed with autism, as you previously stated with great certainty, or is he not? Obviously it is hugely relevant. Though not in the least to his vulnerability, and need for understanding.

Alexa444 · 04/05/2016 22:29

With respect sleep, you know your own child and their own tells. My aunt knows her son. When a child is told he can't play with the playdoh as it is hometime and proceeds to mash it into the carpet with a shiteating smirk and then shrug still grinning and say "dunno, why I did it. Couldn't help it, could I" I feel pretty safe in saying he did in fact know what he was doing and that he could get away with it.

sleeponeday · 04/05/2016 22:30

I'm surprised you don't realise that not all autism is severe and some children DO push their luck

My son is high functioning in many areas. He's perfectly capable of pushing his luck, and I am perfectly capable of telling which is which.

I'm good at spotting bullshit, actually. Particularly when, as is obviously the case with an autistic 7 year old, the bullshitter isn't very good at what they do.

SuckingEggs · 04/05/2016 22:31

YABU

MYOB

Kanga59 · 04/05/2016 22:31

You are one nosey Parker

CalleighDoodle · 04/05/2016 22:34

My godson used a pushchair beyond reception. He was 10 weeks prem and pneumonia at 1 put him on oxygen almost permanently.

Although i do admit to judging the parents of toddlers / preschoolers with dummies. Theres just No need.

Alexa444 · 04/05/2016 22:34

He is diagnosed Asd. His doctor is concerned that occasionally he will sit quietly sometimes and then out of nowhere, freak out, screaming about hands holding him down and slap at himself to get them off. He is genuinely distressed and has to be restrained when this happens as he can harm himself, its quite frightening to witness actually. He really believes they're there. Feels them and sees them. The doctor mentioned schizophrenia as a possibility that they are looking into.

Alexa444 · 04/05/2016 22:41

Posted too soon. They thought at first that it was something to do with the meds he takes for adhd so took him off them. Longest 3 months of my aunts life. But it continued so it is being treated as a separate issue. I have to get to bed but will pop back if you have any other questions.

RiverTamFan · 04/05/2016 22:41

Our DD1 has no visible disability and is physically perfectly fit but her Special Needs means that it's unsafe for her to walk.

Also when our son was in Reception we lived a couple of miles away from his school, on the far side of a steep hill. He used to ride on the buggy as well because a) the walk with that hill was sometimes a bit too much for him and b) he was too flipping slow!

DixieNormas · 04/05/2016 22:43

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LilacSpunkMonkey · 04/05/2016 22:48

Was the 'goadypants' remark aimed at me Alexa?

Seriously, that's the best you have on a thread where you're being ignorant and offensive to parents and professionals wrt children with SEN?

To be blunt, you are talking out of your absolute arse. Like I said, lots of experience of children with various conditions, lots of training. I know my onions. You are talking shite.

Also, this site has a little campaign about inclusiveness for all children and at the moment your ignorant posts are going way beyond 'not in the spirit of the site' with their nastiness and narrow-mindedness.

You do not belong on a parenting site with parents of children with SEN. You are offensive and should be banned.

Bagatelle1 · 04/05/2016 22:49

YABU. If a parent decides to use a pushchair for convenience or for any other reason, it is their business. Not yours.