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To wonder what teaching will be like in ten years?

98 replies

springtimevintagedream · 02/05/2016 19:46

The other thread about OPs husband not taking time off inspired this one; it (obviously) isn't a TAAT, though :)

What do you think will happen to the profession in 2026?

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BalthazarImpresario · 03/05/2016 00:50

Dc1 wants to be a senior school teacher (starts gcse's in Sept) I hope he's required still.

ChopsticksandChilliCrab · 03/05/2016 01:09

For too many people Education isn't important as they and their children are finished with it. Politicians have short-term goals and Education Secretaries are in and out of the job too fast to see plans go through. Education should be overseen by a Royal College answerable to the Lords IMO. In the 25 years I have been teaching there has only been tinkering, no real change. Sadly I think this will continue.

I teach maths abroad now. The students' behaviour is good, the job is busy but manageable and the pay is excellent. I can't see me ever teaching in a UK state school again.

flirtygirl · 03/05/2016 02:53

I think more schools will be closed as they were failing and because we left the eu and didnt need so many school places anymore.

More children leave school and cant read, more middle income families scrimp and save to send dc to private school as they despair at state education.

More parents homeschool and those dc left in the state school system become minimum wage slaves whilst those in private sysyem become their bosses. The homeschooled can choose either according to ability to sweet talk their way into higher circles and network to find a job accordingly.

Universities close as only a small percentage get to go so they nominate the top ten that private school users like and close the rest.

The govt close colleges as say all training can be given via unpaid aprenticeships and they show data proving that they are right, people laud it as brilliant. Those who never got the grades from their rubbish school to get into a top ten university have to do the unpaid apprenticeship or be registered a neet and be penalised in some way maybe linked to housing, iee no place to live if you are a neet.

The divide gets worse but people keep voting the torys in until the UK resembles dickens england with workhouses, no schools for the poor as its their fault, disabled in asylums (for their own good) and so on

And it all starts with devaluing the education system with academisation and pfi.

flirtygirl · 03/05/2016 02:55

And most of that is already a reality, oh well

ValancyJane · 03/05/2016 03:15

I don't think it will be massively different. Unfortunately I can't see the targets / levels / progress / tracking on a colour codes spreadsheet / measuring and quantifying everything
culture going anytime soon. I can see more unqualified teachers in schools, and think the lessons on computers monitored by a (probably unqualified teacher) will be a reality. I imagine less experienced teachers and far more nqts - I think teaching won't be seen as a job for life anymore. I imagine some schools skkl still be sticking to their principles and providing a good learning environment, but I imagine the bad ones will be worse.

My children will be in the education system my then. Although I'm hoping to leave teaching, I have considered looking for private schools jobs for a bit of a fees reduction so we could send them private. And I am only considering that because I am so worried about what is happening to education!

ValancyJane · 03/05/2016 03:16

Will, not skkl!!

AlMinzerAndHisPyramidOfDogs · 03/05/2016 03:19

Education is to be privatised and parcelled off.

the tories want an illiterate, clueless, cowed, fearful, underclass mass population of consumers that they can exploit. just like north korea.

only the rich will receive a good education so that they can graduate and exploit the poor.

springtimevintagedream · 03/05/2016 06:54

I find this insistence it's all the fault of the Tories baffling

I dislike what's going on in education, but honestly, was it any better in the Blair years?

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LindyHemming · 03/05/2016 06:58

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YokoUhOh · 03/05/2016 07:07

spring yes it was better in the Blair years. Better pay, to start with. I'm on a 4-year pay freeze, and would be £5000 better off a year had my pay been linked to inflation.

Luckily, I love teaching so I'm staying for now, but this could change if the current administration keep up with their tinkering.

BoneyBackJefferson · 03/05/2016 07:07

springtimevintagedream

I agree that its not just the tories that have messed up education, but they (with all the others) have done nothing to put it 'right'.

Whichever party has been in power has just used it as a political football to score votes.

springtimevintagedream · 03/05/2016 07:10

We had SATs and academies long before 2010 in England :)

My feeling isn't that the current state of education has nothing to do with politics but that it's cross-party and seems to stem from the Blair years but very probably beyond that.

I disagree that the Tories are 'evil', and attempting to produce factory fodder: more aptly, they are trying to emulate the curriculum and environment of private schools which is indeed happening in a roundabout way through forced academisation. Unfortunately, this dramatically misses the point that not all academic based curriculums and qualifications are suitable for all students.

I suspect the curriculum will be toned down as slowly the realisation that its demands are unrealistic dawns.

It's quite difficult to currently know who to vote for, it really is.

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jellyfrizz · 03/05/2016 07:16

It's quite difficult to currently know who to vote for, it really is.

And this is the problem isn't it? Education should not be a vote winner. It needs to be taken out of the hands of politicians.

roarfeckingroar · 03/05/2016 07:25

And this is why DP and I are already saving for school fees before we even think about ttc. I dread to think how bad the state sector will be in ten years time.

roarfeckingroar · 03/05/2016 07:27

What's wrong with a focus on grammar? Grammar is very important. I throw out CVs with poor grammar.

springtimevintagedream · 03/05/2016 07:28

Well, yes and no.

Educating privately has always been an option insofar as it would be possible to just afford it, but it would require numerous other sacrifices and I'm not sure it is as worth it as all that.

Really, I'd be paying for my child to be taught a certain attitude.

education should not be a vote winner. It needs to be taken out of the hands of politicians

Very genuinely, who should make decisions relating to it?

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springtimevintagedream · 03/05/2016 07:30

Roar

Largely because identifying it doesn't necessarily equate to knowing how to use it correctly. A child may know in theory the difference between a noun and a verb but still use 'we was going...'

To know and use standard English a child has to hear and read it.

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Noodledoodledoo · 03/05/2016 07:31

Completely agree Education (and health) should not be party political agendas but never going to happen.

SATs for KS2 and 3 were introduced in 1991 so pre Blair Tory government. KS3 ones went in 2009.

I come from an education based family and the tories did a lot of damage in the 80s/90s as well as now.

We have started down a slippery slope which is only going to impact on students.

The biggest thing that needs to be changed is the league tables - without those the pressure on staff and subsequently students would reduce greatly, setting schools up in competition helps no one.

springtimevintagedream · 03/05/2016 07:33

Education in the 80s/90s was abysmal, I agree, but I was a student then rather than a teacher so had a different perspective.

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Noodledoodledoo · 03/05/2016 07:37

Re who should make decisions. A cross party committee with professionals with an educational background who know what thy are talking about.

My parents rate one education secretary in the past 30 years who had been a teacher.

I wouldn't dream of telling a bank how it should run as I have never done the job but Govt ministers seem to not require any exerience or listen to those who have it.

Noodledoodledoo · 03/05/2016 07:38

Excuse typos on my phone.

TimeforaNNChange · 03/05/2016 07:39

And this is the problem isn't it? Education should not be a vote winner. It needs to be taken out of the hands of politicians

Local councils are politicians, too. Untold damage has been done in some areas because the education system has been used as a vote winner locally.

Ironically, proposals to take schools out of local political control are being resisted on all sides Hmm

CoolforKittyCats · 03/05/2016 07:40

What does the government care if many Tory voters bugger off to the private sector and leave children in the state sector to sink below the waves.

Many Labour voters do to.

Including a shadow cabinet MP.

Startingover2016 · 03/05/2016 07:44

Schools have changed very little throughout history as in there are still 30 pupils in a room with a teacher. I don't think things will change very much at all in 10 years.

springtimevintagedream · 03/05/2016 07:46
Grin

But they have, in all kinds of ways. Some good, some awful.

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