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AIBU?

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To cancel my wedding because of my future in laws?

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MidnightAura · 19/04/2016 09:17

This is my first AIBU so please be gentle!

My fiancé and are I due to be married this summer. Venue is paid for and everything is booked. My partners family have thrown a few spanner in the works already. My future brother in law, let's call him Adam was upset he didn't get to pick his own best man suit and called up my DP saying it was a waste of his time going for a fitting as he "didn't have any say in the clothes" We found out through Adam that future father in law was unhappy because he wasn't wearing the same suit as his sons and in his words "he would look a spare prick at the top table" but we resolved that only because the man at the suit hire said that the father of the groom should not be identical as he didn't want them all to look as if they were in a marching band and most importantly the groom should stand out. My future mother in law won't tell anyone what colour she is wearing. I had to ask because my mum is getting a corsage and the florist said it should match the colour of her outfit. But my Dps mum won't tell me the colour. But she is miffed that then she may not have a corsage that matches. I don't know why she won't tell us, she says it's a surprise for the day of the wedding. I only mention this to avoid drip feeding!

So that was a few weeks ago. The maximum numbers we have for the wedding is eighty but our numbers are nowhere near that high. We only have 20 people we want there in total. We don't want a big wedding. We have sent out save the date cards. We had to contact father in law to be about getting addresses for some of the family on my DPs side. Dps dad asked for a copy of the guest list, without thinking I gave him it, we got the addresses, save the dates went out. Last night DPs Dad texts him and says he has booked hotel rooms for his cousin (so my DPs second cousin) and father in laws best man. Not my DPs best man, his dad's best man from his wedding 40 years ago who to our knowledge he doesn't see much of.

I realised right away that they weren't invited, checked the list and DP called and spoke to his Dad. We haven't invited these people. We have never met father in laws best man and in the eight years DP and I have been together, he's seen his dad's cousin twice. Both at funerals. There is no contact in between.

DPs dad started to get very upset on the phone, saying the hotel was booked already. DP hates confrontation and hates upsetting people but to give him his due he told his Dad that we hadn't invited these people, two of them we have never met and the other we see rarely. Our decision not to invite his fathers cousin is simply we don't want a big wedding with all the extended family there. None of my aunts and uncles will coming and certainly none of my parents cousins are coming. We want a small wedding.

So father in law to be puts DPs mum on the phone, the whole conversation is then repeated. She says his dad is devastated not to have the whole family there, they just assumed his dad's cousin would get an invite automatically as a second cousin is "immediate family" So even though none of these people had a save the date, DPs parents took it upon themselves to invite them and book them all hotel rooms. His Mum said we would have to do something about it and we then have to call them back. I don't feel we should have to fix this ? We haven't invited any of these people and it's not our fault they booked hotels without asking us if they could come?

So anyhow DPs mum starts to get upset and then she puts Dps brother on. Again we have to go through the whole thing again, dos brother lays on the guilt saying his parents are in tears, we should invite the whole family as they are never altogether and it isn't fair. He also said that Dps Dad will not come to the wedding if father in laws cousin can't be there. He also said we could add on these people as extras and they will pay. They are quite annoyed we have said no and have said its a matter of principal, it's our wedding day we decide who gets an invite, it's not for DP's family to turn it into a big family affair without asking and it's not what we want.

DPs brother *Adam messaged me this morning saying that four guests from their side won't be coming can we please Invite father in laws best man and his cousin? They just want to have the family there as the all the family only meet for sad times and they just want a happy family event. Why can't they just accept no means no?

It upsets DP and I that they are trying to turn our wedding day into a big family affair. I guess we are also a bit baffled because we hardly see DPs family. We seen them twice last year. They stay a 45 minute car journey away and they all drive but they just aren't interested in DP. We invite them round, we get told no. When we moved house and needed help with the move and for some things after, we asked for help and got told no.
Dps parents are retired and very wealthy. If they want big family get togethers they could have one any time, but they don't see much of the extended family either. It just feels like they want to use our wedding to have a big reunion (which is fine if that's what we wanted) and they seem intent in making it about them. It actually feels like they want to pretend at this wedding that we are all really close when the reality is completely different. We haven't seen DPs parents since Christmas!

So now I'm ready to throw the towel in. That how upset I feel about it. The day doesn't feel about us, it feels about DPs parents and their wishes. We would lose a lot of money to cancel and elope but I'm starting to think it will be worth it.

Adam is really pushing us (no doubt on his parents orders) to invite the best man and second cousin. We just don't want to and I fear that by giving in on this occasion there will be something else down the road I.e they aren't happy the relatives are only getting evening invites, Adam isn't happy his girlfriend of a month isn't on top table. I just don't want any more of this hassle. I just want to get married and Dp and I have those we want there to celebrate it with us. Is that unreasonable?

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Tiredmumno1 · 19/04/2016 12:13

I like the email idea, I don't see how they can carry on if you send one last chance.

I would also call her out on the colour of her clothing. I would be saying to her that I hope with all the secrecy about it isn't because she is wearing white or black? As surely no one would be so disrespectful to wear them colours to a wedding. Then see her reaction.

Put your foot down, just keep reminding them it's not their day it's yours. That means things will be done the you both want it done.

Ridiculous behaviour.

Just tell them it's your way or the highway Grin

MidnightAura · 19/04/2016 12:26

Thanks everyone for your input, it's given me a lot to think about! (And also scared me witless with some of the wedding stories)

Dp and I have talked. We have a lot more to do but we are talking and luckily we are in agreement with this. As others have said our day is now tainted, either way it is because his parents are going to be sat miserable in the pics unhappy they haven't got their way with this.

We aren't being rash so we haven't cancelled anything yet. But I think it will go that way.

Upon the advice of the posters who said elope and tell your parents the night before- that sounds like a plan. My only concern is Bil will turn up anyhow even though we said parents only and my siblings aren't coming. He will come under the guise of driving them. and just happen to have new girlfriend with him in the car all suited and booted

I've asked on of DPs aunts about Mil outfit and she says its black and blue? She hasn't seen it just heard about it.
I don't care anymore.

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CauliflowerBalti · 19/04/2016 12:27

I don't suppose eloping just you and your parents is an option...?

DilapidatedGlamourpuss · 19/04/2016 12:29

I have been you, OP. I got married 3 weeks ago and my MIL made my life a living hell leading up to the wedding. I'm quite confident in my own decisions and was kind but firm etc but she had me weeping, having sleepless nights and feeling terribly depressed. We had an amazing day but I will never forgive her for what she put us through.

You must have the wedding that you and your DFiance want. If that means eloping, do it. Don't let them use their money to bully or persuade you. This is about you, and your DP and the rest of your lives together.

If you decide to carry on with your plans, make the arrangements without discussing anything with them. Then, once they ask contracts have been signed/things will have been put into place.

Make sure you and your DP are united. Polite, distant and firm need to be your standpoints if they start.

Unmumsnetty hugs OP, this is hard Flowers

TheRealCornholio · 19/04/2016 12:30

How mean am I though - we knew the morning of the wedding that she wasn't showing but I kept her place laid at the table next to him, with her name card and everything

Shock Grin

Anyway Op, have you booked the castle? I always pictured it in the evening with candleights.

2ndSopranosRule · 19/04/2016 12:30

Oh God cancel.

My wedding was an absolute circus. I can't be bothered to go into the details but it wasn't the happiest day of my life by any stretch of the imagination and I'm still annoyed (10 years on...!) that I felt that way.

Dh both agree that if we were to do it all again we'd go somewhere just the two of us and our dc.

Whisky2014 · 19/04/2016 12:33

could you not elope with just his parents and brother and then your parents and siblings too?

CrackerChops · 19/04/2016 12:35

I'm really sorry that its come to this, OP. I have a close relative who has been engaged for years, and sadly the only reason why they haven't got married yet is exactly this same sort of emotional blackmailing shite as what you are dealing with.

At first I was going to suggest you put your foot down and say the list is final, there will be no extra hangers-on added to the guestlist, but then there is still a fair chance the bastards will turn up anyway. So, I think eloping is your best option. I completely agree with you 100% that weddings should be about the couple, not a family circus for all and sundry. Good luck and I hope you have a wonderful wedding Flowers

Bollyroo · 19/04/2016 12:36

Oh Aura, poor you and DP.

A friend of mine had a similar situation and cancelled their wedding, had a casual family BBQ and surprised everyone when a priest turned up.

Do whatever will make you happiest but this might be a compromise. It sounds like there has been a fair amount of confrontation so more could make things even worse.

We eloped and had a family gathering a week later. It was perfect for us. My parents had invited 3 deceased relatives to my brother's wedding and I wasn't prepared to go through any drama for my wedding!

Maybe get your DP's family to read this massive thread?! MN speaks!

I hope everything turns out beautifully for you and congratulations!

MidnightAura · 19/04/2016 12:36

I love the idea of the castle. It's beautiful, I will send DP the link.

We just feel if we give in there will be something else. This is. It the first time BIL has come on the phone saying mum and dad aren't happy about X, y or z but don't tell them I told you.

They are very bad communicators. We thought with them having a guest list it would stop any confusion about who was coming, I didn't expect them to add on folk and not tell us. And these people would be people there for the ceremony I'm guessing because they are booking a mini bus!

I've told my parents I will do Gretna or a registry and they can come, DPs parents can come but no siblings.

We will decide tonight but I don't think I will change my mind.

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Palpatine · 19/04/2016 12:39

I can only echo what others have said. If your ILs are desperate for a family reunion, then they should go ahead and organise. Surely that would be a joyous enough occasion..?

We had some extended family as well as MIL's close friends plus some of their kids at our wedding, but the difference was that those are people we see all the time whenever we go and visit MIL (we live in a different country), send Christmas and birthday cards even for our kids and if we're at MIL's for Christmas, they always invite us for Boxing Day. If these people weren't as close, we wouldn't have invited them.

lalalalyra · 19/04/2016 12:39

No way would I elope. You want your wedding in that place with those people, you don't want to elope without your parents so don't.

I'd send them an email telling them the plans are made, you aren't changing them and won't be discussing them again. If they choose not to come then that's up to them, but you won't be emotionally blackmailed into changing plans.

I had this from certain members of my family when I got married. They wanted one of my estranged parents invited (I lived with my grandparents from 7 due to abuse) and endless discussions did nothing, but in the end a firm "this is what we are doing and it is up to you if you want to come or not" sorted it as it was made very clear to them that DH's family would be there - there was no way they'd risk missing out.

StrictlyMumDancing · 19/04/2016 12:40

I really think, as someone else suggested up thread, your DF should call up the guests who apparently aren't coming and say 'its such a shame you aren't going to make it, we'd really like you there, etc. etc.'. Because I'd lay bets on they either are coming so you'd end up with the extra heads anyway or your future ILs have recinded your invite to them.

MidnightAura · 19/04/2016 12:42

Thinking about parents and siblings but I don't know it kind of takes away eloping a little bit.

I don't know anymore. I'm not rushing into cancelling because I know I'm upset as is DP. But in my heart I think I want too.

Cancelling the wedding though is going to mean if we elope costs will be kept right down because we are making a significant loss there.

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MidnightAura · 19/04/2016 12:45

StrictlyMumDancing That thought has crossed my mind. We don't have a contact number for this aunt and uncle but I'm going to get DP to get one because I wonder if they haven't said they won't be coming. They stay in Australia, so it's possible but I would like to hear it from them.

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RhodaBull · 19/04/2016 12:53

My parents had invited 3 deceased relatives to my brother's wedding

Marvellous! I'd love to sit next to a ghost at a wedding!

sherbetpips · 19/04/2016 12:53

Okay so the stuff about the suits, corsages, etc is just normal wedding crap and everyone will get over it.
When you did the invitation list did you consult both sets of parents first and discuss how many each side could have and ask them who they wanted? I know its your wedding but like it or not these are family events, if you don't want to deal with the family crap then a formal wedding is a bad idea, sandals on a beach much better.
Will it kill you to invite them? If you still want the big day then have a family meeting and invite them but make clear that nothing else about the wedding will be changing, including the girlfriend on the top table issue.

CaveMum · 19/04/2016 12:56

Can you not book a registry office then tell your parents and his parents to meet you somewhere else, on the pretence of a meal or something, then when they arrive tell them your getting married, jump in some prebooked taxis and head to the Registry Office from there.

That way no one gets to know in advance and no chance of your BIL gatecrashing Grin

Lancelottie · 19/04/2016 12:56

You r MIL's dress is black and blue?

It's not... the black and blue dress, is it? The one that looked white and gold? Maybe she's not sure what colour it is!

Werksallhourz · 19/04/2016 12:58

I empathise, aura. My wedding day was pretty miserable really. My DM took over the whole planning and preparation, my mil bullied us into allsorts. One of DHs uncles brought another four people who we had never met and not invited (we only invited about 40 people) , and they turned up in jeans and polo shirts.

It was all about everyone else. After the meal at the reception, I somehow ended up sat in the dining room on my own for a long time. DH was busy running around after his family and friends, none of his family spoke to me, my family were being weird with me because my DM had had an argument with them the night before (for some reason, they freeze me out when they have a problem with my mother).

I try not to think about what happened, but sometimes a little bit of hurt manages to push through.

My advice? Don't be considerate to unreasonable people. Do what you want to do and don't budge. Sod them if they turn on the waterworks or bullying.

millimat · 19/04/2016 12:58

If you cancel now, will the loss of money be less than nearer the day?

incandescentalright · 19/04/2016 13:02

I think that you are being a bit precious as well tbh. It is a bit controlling not to let members of the wedding party pick their own outfits and I can't imagine why you think that your dp's mum owes it too you to tell you what she's going to wear. Surely you could just order her a corsage that's vaguely similar to the others or ask her what colour corsage she wants? I think it's you making a problem there frankly. And obviously they should not be inviting people without permission. But I don't think it's unusual for families to be invested in weddings and for them to want extended family to be there. I wouldn't have dreamed of refusing to invite family members my ILs wanted there, even ones I've never met and my dp has met a handful of times. Of course it's your right to invite (or not) anyone you want but if you exclude family members (even distant) you are likely to upset people and I think it's U to expect that you won't.

KinkyAfro · 19/04/2016 13:03

OP doesn't WANT to invite them sherbet she doesn't even know them! The bride & groom are entitled to invite whoever they like, and say no whoever they like.

This is why I'm getting married in Cyprus next year with my mum and his kids in attendance, no one else

StrictlyMumDancing · 19/04/2016 13:05

If you don't want to cancel the venue etc, would this work as an idea?

Book a registry office somewhere, get two random witnesses and someone to film it. Don't tell anyone, run off and have a lovely intimate wedding.
Let ILs invite extras to your 'wedding' but tell them that they need to start fronting up some money. They'll probably demand some more things, let them on the caveat they pay. After all, you're already going to be married so its not really your day they're ruining. Make sure they pay up front. Then on the 'wedding' day when everyone is gathered you could project the video of your actual wedding.

Everyone gets the celebration but you two get your day. Or does that seem too mean?

girlywhirly · 19/04/2016 13:05

You don't have to have the reception party on the same day as the marriage ceremony. A cousin's wedding was abroad and she had another drinks and canapés do for friends and colleagues, and other family members. She wore her wedding dress to this as well.

I wonder if you could have the ceremony either before or after the original venue date in a different location. Someone else I know had a wedding in Ibiza, but it was just a ceremony (not legally binding) and a reception after. She had a register office ceremony back in England. This way the ILS can have their bash, which won't matter to you because you have already detached from it emotionally, and the ceremony will be entirely separated from it. In your mind, the ceremony will be the real celebration of your marriage, and the ILS can then dick about with 'their' party without it bothering you, and you don't even have to stay for the whole thing.