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To cancel my wedding because of my future in laws?

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MidnightAura · 19/04/2016 09:17

This is my first AIBU so please be gentle!

My fiancé and are I due to be married this summer. Venue is paid for and everything is booked. My partners family have thrown a few spanner in the works already. My future brother in law, let's call him Adam was upset he didn't get to pick his own best man suit and called up my DP saying it was a waste of his time going for a fitting as he "didn't have any say in the clothes" We found out through Adam that future father in law was unhappy because he wasn't wearing the same suit as his sons and in his words "he would look a spare prick at the top table" but we resolved that only because the man at the suit hire said that the father of the groom should not be identical as he didn't want them all to look as if they were in a marching band and most importantly the groom should stand out. My future mother in law won't tell anyone what colour she is wearing. I had to ask because my mum is getting a corsage and the florist said it should match the colour of her outfit. But my Dps mum won't tell me the colour. But she is miffed that then she may not have a corsage that matches. I don't know why she won't tell us, she says it's a surprise for the day of the wedding. I only mention this to avoid drip feeding!

So that was a few weeks ago. The maximum numbers we have for the wedding is eighty but our numbers are nowhere near that high. We only have 20 people we want there in total. We don't want a big wedding. We have sent out save the date cards. We had to contact father in law to be about getting addresses for some of the family on my DPs side. Dps dad asked for a copy of the guest list, without thinking I gave him it, we got the addresses, save the dates went out. Last night DPs Dad texts him and says he has booked hotel rooms for his cousin (so my DPs second cousin) and father in laws best man. Not my DPs best man, his dad's best man from his wedding 40 years ago who to our knowledge he doesn't see much of.

I realised right away that they weren't invited, checked the list and DP called and spoke to his Dad. We haven't invited these people. We have never met father in laws best man and in the eight years DP and I have been together, he's seen his dad's cousin twice. Both at funerals. There is no contact in between.

DPs dad started to get very upset on the phone, saying the hotel was booked already. DP hates confrontation and hates upsetting people but to give him his due he told his Dad that we hadn't invited these people, two of them we have never met and the other we see rarely. Our decision not to invite his fathers cousin is simply we don't want a big wedding with all the extended family there. None of my aunts and uncles will coming and certainly none of my parents cousins are coming. We want a small wedding.

So father in law to be puts DPs mum on the phone, the whole conversation is then repeated. She says his dad is devastated not to have the whole family there, they just assumed his dad's cousin would get an invite automatically as a second cousin is "immediate family" So even though none of these people had a save the date, DPs parents took it upon themselves to invite them and book them all hotel rooms. His Mum said we would have to do something about it and we then have to call them back. I don't feel we should have to fix this ? We haven't invited any of these people and it's not our fault they booked hotels without asking us if they could come?

So anyhow DPs mum starts to get upset and then she puts Dps brother on. Again we have to go through the whole thing again, dos brother lays on the guilt saying his parents are in tears, we should invite the whole family as they are never altogether and it isn't fair. He also said that Dps Dad will not come to the wedding if father in laws cousin can't be there. He also said we could add on these people as extras and they will pay. They are quite annoyed we have said no and have said its a matter of principal, it's our wedding day we decide who gets an invite, it's not for DP's family to turn it into a big family affair without asking and it's not what we want.

DPs brother *Adam messaged me this morning saying that four guests from their side won't be coming can we please Invite father in laws best man and his cousin? They just want to have the family there as the all the family only meet for sad times and they just want a happy family event. Why can't they just accept no means no?

It upsets DP and I that they are trying to turn our wedding day into a big family affair. I guess we are also a bit baffled because we hardly see DPs family. We seen them twice last year. They stay a 45 minute car journey away and they all drive but they just aren't interested in DP. We invite them round, we get told no. When we moved house and needed help with the move and for some things after, we asked for help and got told no.
Dps parents are retired and very wealthy. If they want big family get togethers they could have one any time, but they don't see much of the extended family either. It just feels like they want to use our wedding to have a big reunion (which is fine if that's what we wanted) and they seem intent in making it about them. It actually feels like they want to pretend at this wedding that we are all really close when the reality is completely different. We haven't seen DPs parents since Christmas!

So now I'm ready to throw the towel in. That how upset I feel about it. The day doesn't feel about us, it feels about DPs parents and their wishes. We would lose a lot of money to cancel and elope but I'm starting to think it will be worth it.

Adam is really pushing us (no doubt on his parents orders) to invite the best man and second cousin. We just don't want to and I fear that by giving in on this occasion there will be something else down the road I.e they aren't happy the relatives are only getting evening invites, Adam isn't happy his girlfriend of a month isn't on top table. I just don't want any more of this hassle. I just want to get married and Dp and I have those we want there to celebrate it with us. Is that unreasonable?

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diddl · 20/04/2016 13:04

"They are already threatening not to come!"

If you're lucky they'll carry it through!

Not so nice for your fiance to have it shoved in his face how unimportant he is to them though.

"If we have the original wedding and don't back down DPs parents will have a face like a slapped arse."

Would that spoil the day?

MetalMidget · 20/04/2016 13:05

1) Have your initial wedding, accept ILs additions (making them pay)...just let it go (it won't be the only thing on your wedding day that doesn't go to plan and if you make peace with it in advance you'll be OK). It is just one thing.

The problem is, I get the feeling that it wouldn't be one thing. It'd give her in-laws the greenlight to make whatever changes they wish to her wedding. And why should they have people who are nearly complete strangers (including one who is a completely unrelated stranger) at their wedding? It's just weird.

urkidding · 20/04/2016 13:07

This is a different opinion.
First of all, it is not going to be perfect. So accept that, and things will not feel so bad! Things will go wrong, but it who cares, as long as nobody dies?
I think you are losing perspective.
It is not clear who is paying for the wedding.
That needs to be very clear.
If some people are not coming, and being replaced by others, it doesn't matter, as long as it does not increase the cost. However, speak to FILand tell him this is a VERY special favour, and YOU are in charge, so all decisions are yours. Train the partner to transfer any conversation about the wedding to you, saying it is HER DAY, SHE decides ,(this sets the scene for future decisions!)
Let MIL's corsage not match, who cares?
However, meet with them and tell them you will allow changes, but ALL decisions go through you. Show them your mettle! Deal with them with an iron will, but make small concessions.(Again setting the stage for the future!)
Oh, by the way, enjoy the wedding, it is definitely not the best day of your life, - you will have others, so CHILL!

MiddleClassProblem · 20/04/2016 13:08

I've only read the first few posts by op so sorry if someone has already suggested it but there is a third option.
Cancel and have a surprise smaller wedding with just parents and siblings. They don't find out until the day.
Potentially you could keep the original date as a blessing, more informal and invite the extras.

thechickenwhisperer · 20/04/2016 13:11

Why should you (and your friends and family) have to miss out on the wedding you've planned, paid for and looked forward to just because of their craziness? Just be firm about what you want! As for MIL's outfit - is she planning on wearing a long white dress?! Sounds like a silly cow. Balls to her and her flower. Agree with Itinerary - get her to call the florists herself if it matters so much!

PestoSwimissimos · 20/04/2016 13:11

I think you'd be best off just getting married in a low-key way with just your respective sets of parents. However, don't bank on having a great post-wedding party separately afterwards. DH & I proposed doing this and paying to put everyone up at a local hotel, but all the relatives on his side refused to come. Saying that if they weren't going to be invited to the actual ceremony then they couldn't face travelling just for a party Shock

nixie60 · 20/04/2016 13:15

YANBU OP, I feel for you as we had a similar issue when we got married 18 years ago but your situation sounds much worse. We were paying for our own wedding and wanted to keep the numbers (and therefore the cost) down, but my MIL to be started telling us that we would HAVE to invite her sister, her brother etc. I put my foot down immediately and said no, because if we invited aunts and uncles on her side then we'd have to invite them on mine (I'm from a very large Irish family!) and that wasn't happening. She then offered to pay for her relatives to attend but DP and I both said no, because this would cause bad feeling on my side of the family. With just our parents and siblings and their kids and the friends WE wanted to invite there were about 50 anyway at this point, with other friends coming along for the evening do. My FIL to be (separated from MIL) suggested that we could have a party for the more distant relatives after the wedding and offered to pay for his lot (he's a sweetie though). MIL to be grudgingly agreed to a compromise with us sticking to our guns and our guest list and said she would organise something for her side of the family in the same way, wanting to include a cousin who'd moved abroad years ago but was apparently coming back at some point for a visit.

The day went off really well with everyone WE wanted there and it was the experience we'd both wanted and won't ever forget. FIL organised a party for his relatives that took place a week or so after we got back from honeymoon. We're still waiting for MIL's event so are glad we called her bluff!

Additionally, when DH's sister got married a couple of years later she invited everyone to appease the ones who were pissed off that we didn't invite them. And guess what, hardly any of the buggers bothered their arses to turn up!

My MIL has tried various interventions since around what to do when I was pregnant, what to feed the kids, where we should go on holiday etc. but we just ignore her. I am fortunate that my DH is very sensible and won't be bullied either so just tells her to back off. So my advice to you would be what many others have already said: stick to your guns. Once you let them start pushing you around it sets a pattern for the rest of your marriage and you don't want to be the family doormat. It's your day so you call the shots. If they don't like it they can fuck off. I hope everything works out for you.

mummymafia · 20/04/2016 13:16

My dm & I are very close. My df is dead & was dead by the time dh & I got married. I have a wonderful step df. But we all had the mother & father of rows over the wedding invite list & the fact that my dm wanted me to get married in church so my dead df could see me walking down the aisle from heaven. Honestly. He was the biggest aethiest in the world & they hadn't spoken for about 30 years before died. That's what weddings do to rellies. Never had a row with my mum like it, before or after. She had turned into motherofthebridezilla. Incredible. Anyway, we dug our heels in & had a very small wedding (12 of us in total) & then 6 weeks later had a humanist blessing & knees up in our back garden with lots of family & friends. Wedding dress, suits, speeches, disco, bouncy castle, etc so a proper ceremony. 2 ceremonies I know but probably less £££ than one big one. And we went on 2 honeymoons! Well one & a weekend away! And kept most people happy. Apart from my dad in heaven of course! And both were brilliant in their own ways. 😜 So worth considering small wedding as planned & an official type bigger knees up for extended family & friends? Good luck. Flowers

Debbywebby · 20/04/2016 13:17

Cancel the wedding but keep the venue and have a big party on the day that lots of people can go to (to keep the In Laws happy). Meanwhile take your best friends to antigua/barbados/las vegas and get married quick and have a wonderful time. Don't tell anyone till it's too late. Can't see how you are ever going to make the manipulating members of the family happy so I wouldn't bother trying...you might even find they respect you for taking a stand. Lastly but not least, have a wonderful married life together!!

MidnightAura · 20/04/2016 13:17

Again WE ARE PAYING FOR OUR WEDDING!!

Sorry but that is crystal clear.

I don't know why people keep coming back to the corsage /clothes. I don't give a shiny shit. And I've said that several times this morning alone. Florist knows colour of MIL dress/outfit, I don't give a damn what colour her corsage is.

I agree with whoever said if we move the venue and make it smaller - it's not eloping you are right because we can't do that, we don't want that.

If we move it to a smaller venue it will be more fitting with the smaller numbers. What I mean is the original venue is fancy, to cull our guest list to just immediate family or parents, the venue would just feel i don't know too formal. It's a venue that is great for a reception but cutting the numbers means we wouldn't have much of a reception. It would be more Informal and a smaller, less formal venue would cater for that.

To the pp who asked if I would be bothered if Dps parents had cat bum faces, I don't know if it would bother me, only if it bothered DP. Right now I don't have any love for them so want little to do as possible with them and on the day I would keep my distance.

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RunRabbitRunRabbit · 20/04/2016 13:18

If we have the original wedding and don't back down DPs parents will have a face like a slapped arse. They are already threatening not to come!

Do you think there are any options where they will have happy smiley faces? I don't think so.

You are giving yourself a huge amount of stress in order to stop them having a grump on but you've already said they are already having a grump on about all the other options. Now your side of the family is grumpy too.

PIL will only be happy if they win and you lose.

You are completely right to make sure you win and they know it.

Which means they'll have arse faces no matter what you do.

You can't avoid the arse face can you? So stick to your original plans. Tell the lot of them to shut the fuck up, the wedding is what it is.

RunRabbitRunRabbit · 20/04/2016 13:20

What I mean is the original venue is fancy, to cull our guest list to just immediate family or parents, the venue would just feel i don't know too formal.

What is the benefit of culling the guest list?

I thought your guest list of 20 people was the 20 people you genuinely wanted to have there? Who is being culled and why?

Freddiethefirefly · 20/04/2016 13:25

Hello

As some one who had a rubbish wedding day, due to my family...not inlaws!

(We too paid for our own wedding). I really wanted to have a small registry office do with friends or on our own....wished I had. Itwasnt worth the hard work to may for the wedding.

I would suggest cancel and elope!

BTW Congratulations

LollieB · 20/04/2016 13:26

Let the family know (in a gentle and friendly way) that this is your day and your original plan stands. If they can't respect that, then they don't respect you. We had lots of issues as our wedding date grew closer and I wish I'd put my foot down. We ended up having an expensive wedding that was more about other people. Don't forget the real focus of what this day is about and that your
Memories of it will last a lifetime. Make it YOUR day....your in laws have already had their own wedding.

RallyAnnie · 20/04/2016 13:28

IMHO, don't elope. Have the wedding you and DP want. But first, have the face off with his parents that you need to have, to make sure the boundaries are in the right place for now and the future.

I caused two upsets for my wedding. One; FIL hated the "top men" outfits at the fitting and said he wouldn't wear it. I told him "your DP's dad, we want you at our wedding and we want you to be comfortable. But we also want our wedding our way, so wear what you like but if you don't match you won't be on the top table and you won't be in the photos." He wore it.

Two: insisted on only having my adult friends as brodesmaids, so I didn't have to have all three nieces and a nephew in the wedding party because "I'm not a Royal princess and I don't want 7 attendants." Shame my sis had already promised her girls they would be my bridesmaids. She didn't speak to me on the day of the wedding but we are over it now.

Wedding are drama magnets. Doesn't mean you can't stand your ground about what ever aspects are most important to you

Lvajazz · 20/04/2016 13:36

My wedding was basically going to be my mums,everything was to be done her way . Less than a week before the wedding she wanted us to delay it for a few months. I stood my ground and refused. Result was most of the family didn't attend but we had a fantastic day with our friends, and people who wanted to be there for us not my mother. It's your day not parents day. Stand your ground and have a happy wedding day

MidnightAura · 20/04/2016 13:37

RunRabbit (love the name)

We don't want to cull anyone from the 20. But if we throw in the towel and tell PIL they are not getting their way we are going to cancel the wedding and then go off and do it with immediate family then unfortunately we would lose non parents and siblings.

There's a few in that number are from DPs family that he knows well. But then if we do it with parents only or parents and sibs only, there is no extended family there in either side. No aunts uncles or cousins. (There isn't any on my side anyhow, they were never invited as not close and too many) In laws then cannot moan that X has been invited so they want to invite Y because none of their family are there.

The other option is we disinvite extended family, keep venue the same but it will look quite bizarre. I wish I could name the venue and people would understand but I don't want to out myself. We are pushing it having such a small wedding there because it's such a grand room and is very posh I suppose. The other venue we have in mind is lovely but more Informal at the same time and is smaller so we could tell In laws there is no space unlike at the current venue.

If we cancel original wedding, we lose a good couple of grand which st the moment while I dislike it, we think it may be worth sadly to avoid this nonsense but if we move the original guest list to another venue, PIL have the same issue with demanding they want so and so there. Same shit different venue.

I feel awful at cancelling on any of the invited guests. My friends understand. They told me to do it and they will come at night to wherever we are, they aren't expecting a full on reception. But some guests will be.

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MidnightAura · 20/04/2016 13:40

And for the benefit of people reading this: we can't elope, my parents bought my dress they want to see me in it, DP wants to invite his parents .

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Sparklyglitter · 20/04/2016 13:42

I feel your pain! :0(
Like others I had an issue regarding invitations at my second wedding that we paid for! By this time my Mum had sadly died. My Dad's girlfriend got her knickers in a twist because we didn't invite her children who my husband and I had never met!!
It was really important to us to keep the guest list to who we really wanted and who we saw frequently. Anyway!
What about saying to your in-laws that you are really sorry that this has happened and that they feel this way. That you spent a long time considering the guest list together and these are the only people that you want on this day. However we understand now how important this is to you and if they would like to organise a second wedding party, you are happy to arrange diaries and dress up in your wedding outfits again (if you are happy to do so)
Call their bluff and only elope if you won't look back and always blame your in-laws for ruining both of your special day! Good luck!!! :0) xx

MidnightAura · 20/04/2016 13:42

I don't want to cancel in any of our invited guests. That is punishing them for The in laws crap. I actually can't do that.

Back to the drawing board.

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MsHoolie · 20/04/2016 13:57

A year ago I would have been just as agitated as you (OMG, my large family is a constant round of petty squabbles and dramas!); but then I got breast cancer and you know what, none of this drama (you are creating) is worth it.
Get some perspective on this and remove the 'wah wah wah, they are nasty people' tone.
It is just one day.
If four people have dropped out then what is the big deal if these family members and old friends fill their spots?

I know we all like to think our wedding day is ours, but it isn't, it is a big deal for our parents, and capitulating on this small thing would lose you nothing and gain you loads.

Why would you and your partner not want to do something nice for your in laws?
They'll be your in laws for life, your wedding is just one day (that will go in a flash and you'll hardly notice who is there anyway to be honest)

Life is too short for silly petty power squabbles... and too long to create bitter enemies of your in laws.

Thing longer term, be more mature, and let his parents have their friends come!
Just not worth the drama!

Ambroxide · 20/04/2016 14:03

Without wishing to sound harsh, Midnight, the ONLY way you can have the wedding you want, not cancel invited guests and keep arrangements the way they suit you is really that either you or DH tells the in-laws fair and square that

a) this is how it will be and this is who is invited,

and

b) anyone who turns up uninvited will be asked to leave and you will make sure they know that they were invited against your express wishes, and that it was the in-laws that did this despite the fact that you specifically asked them not to.

In your shoes, I would also telephone the uninvited guests and explain that MIL got the wrong end of the stick, it will be a very small wedding and you can't accommodate them. Be nice about it, obv.

If you don't put your foot down now, and very firmly, you are going to have years of this shit.

Lynnm63 · 20/04/2016 14:05

Your last post at13:42 sums up what you want. It's simple, do just that. Only extra expense is a single bouncer on the door with a guest list. If your names not on your not getting in, no ifs no buts, no maybe's. You write the list. If anyone objects, tough.

I really wish you and your dp the very best but I remember what our vicar said 24 years ago today is your wedding day but the rest of your life is your marriage, enjoy your day but your marriage is why you're here.
Flowers and unmumsnetty hugs.

beccabanana · 20/04/2016 14:15

Ok I've read all 24 pages of this and OP, whatever you decide to do, can't you firstly get in touch with BIL (seeing PILs won't talk to you) and tell him to tell PILs that you're cancelling the wedding and will be writing to everyone to explain why. Perhaps the thought of the wedding being cancelled will kick them up the arse into thinking they may have overstepped the mark. Secondly, they might be pissed off they won't get to wear outfits already purchased, awkward questions about why it's cancelled etc and by some miracle, you may get an apology or them backing off about inviting all the unwanted extras.
If you at least tell them you're cancelling (but don't just yet) you'll have some breathing space and they might have a think about it. If they kick off again, then explain this is exactly the reasons for cancelling.
If they just go quiet leave them be and then when you've planned what you want to do, invite them to the wedding, no extras and if they repeat their behaviour, they won't be welcome at all. You proved you will not accept being bullied into a wedding you don't want so they'll know you're serious about doing it again.
I would just make damn sure if you cancel they know they are the reason for it and hope they're happy with themselves!!

MiniMum97 · 20/04/2016 14:16

What a nightmare you are having! Weddings - they really do bring out the best and worst in people. I stil cannot believe some of things people did when I got married! I think some people think it is about them when it is about the both of you. I simply can't get my head around how people can think like that.
It's your day, do what YOU want. Hold firm!

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