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AIBU to 'change my mind'.....?

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whatsthepointinwasps · 13/04/2016 22:10

Ok so this is my first ever post but I've followed some of the other AIBUs so here goes....
My youngest is 18yrs old so not technically a child (oh yeah right hahaha)
I'm off work with a nasty chest infection and feeling pretty
grotty but not totally incapacitated (can still move about, just slowly with lots of rests)
I was lying on my bed with Nflixs when my son (said 18yr old) came in and asked me what I wanted for tea, I was touched and surprised he offered so I asked for tinned soup and banana sandwich.

He asked me if I wanted it now so I said 'yes that'd be nice thanks' and he went downstairs.
He put on his music and there were noises from the kitchen.
Fast forward nearly two hours .....no food appearing....
I ventured downstairs to find him in dining room on his laptop with the remnants of his meal beside him. 'Er I thought you were going to do my food too,' I said......'Oh yeah, I'll do it now,' he replied.
Another half an hour passed.....he appeared at door of my room....
'Can you just do your own tea as I don't feel like doing it now,' he said.
'But you said you would, you offered to do it in the first place' I answered.
He said 'I know but I've changed my mind now.'
The thing is I wasn't expecting him to offer to cook for me but the fact that he did then was so blasé about his 'change of mind' actually hurt me.
I feel this is dragging on so I'll cut to the chase (thank god finally I hear you all sigh)
Would it be unreasonable of me to wait till the next episode of 'Mum would you...' or Mum can you....', initially agree, make him wait a while then say 'Well actually I've changed my mind now'?
Is that petty? I had been planning to rustle up the soup/sandwich myself before he asked anyway.

Should I just forget it? Put it down to 'He's a teenager and it's better to pick your battles'?
Sorry about the length of this but if anybody who has struggled through to the bitter end would care to comment I'd be most grateful

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HeteronormativeHaybales · 14/04/2016 06:43

OP, your ds was thoughtless and selfish, and at 18 there is no excuse. I would feel entirely justified in taking the course of action you suggest in your OP - not over something important, but something like a lift into town to meet friends.

18yos are young, they need guidance, they can still be immature - but they are done no favours if behaviour like this is excused on grounds of age. My 8yo would have been ashamed to behave like this.

VinceNoirLovesHowardMoon · 14/04/2016 06:43

It doesn't mean you have done anything wrong as a parent

Yeah, that's exactly what it means.

HeteronormativeHaybales · 14/04/2016 06:44

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VinceNoirLovesHowardMoon · 14/04/2016 06:44

Wondering how pp think we are supposed to parent our 18 year olds Confused

VinceNoirLovesHowardMoon · 14/04/2016 06:44
Grin
wannabestressfree · 14/04/2016 06:56

Well I call bingo as had a child at 18, have a child of 19 and he can make a sandwich whilst I am ill :)
What utter bolllcks that they have half cooked and can't see mummy ill....

MsJamieFraser · 14/04/2016 07:09

pmsl at 18 not being an adult, at 16 I moved country alone, at 18 U had my first mortgage was in full time education and university (paying my own fees) dh not then was on a well paid (at the time £900pm) apprentice.

We are early 30's.

Dutch you need to get head out the sand, my cousin has just died aged 37 of terminal cancer last week, her 18 year old daughter has full custody of her 4 year old sister, because their father died 5 months before their mother, she's had the role of mother to her sister since her mothers diagnosis 16 months ago.

Yes she has the help of family but its her sister who takes her sister to school and collects her again, feeds, clothes and everything a parent does, all the while being in FT university herself.

Honestly have a word with yourself and get yourself a grip!

MsJamieFraser · 14/04/2016 07:12

stoopid auto correct full time work and university

eddielizzard · 14/04/2016 07:37

if i had done this to my mum i'd be in deep serious shit. yes, i would wait until the mum... can you? because without experiencing it himself he clearly doesn't have a clue. don't give up on teaching him empathy and principles. keep trying.

corythatwas · 14/04/2016 09:23

Otoh I think Dutchess has a point, in that the OP need not feel she has failed as a mother because her ds behaved badly on one occasion. Sometimes people choose to behave badly or be rude and it is their choice, not the fault of their mothers.

Otoh, as an inhabitant of a university town and a lecturer, I am rather wondering who is supposed to deal with the influx of these overgrown children who can't be expected to take responsibility for themselves. Their mums aren't there, you know. They have to look after themselves and sometimes other people, they have to take responsibility for their decisions, they have to do adult things like budget and pay the rent on time, and register with a GP, and cook their meals, and notice when their flatmate is displaying signs of meningitis. Halls are not boarding schools. A certain amount of pastoral support is available, but only for people who take the responsibility of making an appointment. We are lecturers, not mothers.

And the majority of new first-years have not yet turned 19.

EatShitDerek · 14/04/2016 10:39

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VinceNoirLovesHowardMoon · 14/04/2016 11:02

Derek your ds sounds adorable

DixieNormas · 14/04/2016 11:30

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NeedACleverNN · 14/04/2016 11:40

18 year old as half cooked Grin

No wonder some men grow up to be cocklodgers

gymboywalton · 14/04/2016 11:41

i have a 16 year old not an 18 year old however he wouldn't DREAM of pulling that kind of shit!
Yes he can be lazy but he is very caring and empathetic and capable of making a sandwich/tea etc!

Bogeyface · 14/04/2016 12:46

Did you report the abusive PM Dixie?

DixieNormas · 14/04/2016 12:58

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Bogeyface · 14/04/2016 12:59

Good for you

lalalalyra · 14/04/2016 13:02

18 is not too young to know that was a frankly knobbish thing to do.

Id be horrified if my 17yo DS behaved like that. I'd be quite disappointed if my 8yo DS told a sick person they make them a sandwich and then changed his mind actually. It's just rude and really quite mean.

whois · 14/04/2016 14:41

That is really selfish and you are right to be upset and hurt by it. Why offer if he wasn't going to do it?? And it would have taken him about 10 mins tops anyway. Dick.

I'm not sure a tit for tat is the best way to go about it, but I think letting him know that the fact he offered and then 'changed his mind' was hurtful, and that a bit of consideration goes a long way towards harmonious relationships. .

gpignname · 14/04/2016 15:09

I would be more than upset. Sorry but that is totally unacceptable. He didn't have to offer but once he did and agreed to do it he needs to keep to it. He broke his word and had so little consideration for you he treated you like you don't matter at all. In fact by offering and then keeping you waiting he actually made it worse for you. And you are ill And he was on his xbox eating his own meal? Presumably you are still supporting him at home - how can you let him treat you like that? I would do nothing for him at all - no lifts, no meals, no allowance, no washing (hopefully he does that anyway) absolutely nothing at all until he had apologised and made up for it ten times over. What sort of selfish kid or adult is allowed to get away with that behaviour.

whatsthepointinwasps · 14/04/2016 21:24

Well I asked for feedback so thanks to all that gave it Star
Here is my unashamedly long winded reply; I feel it warrants a lot of words as, strangely, I partly agree and disagree with all of what's been said.
Sorry if it's too much but hey ho...
Yes it was a selfish and very inconsiderate thing he did and yes he behaved like a 'dick'. I don't doubt there are other far more caring younger children or far more mature young adults out there who wouldn't dream of acting this way. I agree his behaviour was thoughtless, self centred and totally unacceptable.

I also know I need to make sure he understands what the parameters of acceptable behaviour are; it's my duty as a parent and to society.
Then there the idea that the fact that I haven't done it before now would indicate I'm a failure as a parent.....erm I'll get to that later....read on if you wish...

So is he an adult or something 'less cooked' ? He is an adult intrinsically but with a whole deal of maturing and learning still to do. He's a work in progress....but then aren't we all to some degree?

I know from personal and professional experience that people reach fully fledged effective, responsible, independent adulthood (and all the emotional and behavioural maturity that it entails) at different rates. Its great if you (or your kids) can get there speedily, fantastic. Ultimately though what matters most is that you do actually get there.

I think its a bit like cars- different models have differing 'nought to sixty' ranges. Wouldn't it be wonderful if we were all Ferraris speeding along a smooth clear road, good weather, lights always on green with a competent and experience driver at the wheel. We'd arrive promptly at our desired destination without a hair out of place, looking sleek and stylish having accomplished our journey in a blink of an eye.
Sadly though in RL there are all sorts of vehicles on the road, some more cumbersome than others and some have trailers or caravans to pull. Hopefully they'll have the necessary engine capacity, if not they just have to work with what they got and trundle on. That 1.5L may not win the race but if it just keeps putting in the miles it'll make it to the finish line.....ok so there might be a few wrong turns and a bit of shouting at the blinking satnav along the way but he gets there in the end.

So to get to the point of it: this morning my son came to me of his own volition, showed he knew he'd acted badly and made amends in his own way. I could see he was genuinely sorry and was touched by his actions....all without me having to say a word. When we did have 'the talk' his reply of 'I'm really sorry Mum, I know I upset you and I feel bad,' spoke volumes.

Now back to failure: well there may be some truth in that, I know I've definitely made some mistakes along the way....haven't we all? Nevertheless I once heard an extremely successful and influential figure say ' The biggest guarantee of success is to accept the possibility of failure; once you accept that it's ok to fail if you learn from it and keep on going, that's the way to success.'

So I may have failed if, at 18, DS is still making this type of mistake but then from within himself, with no prompting, he saw the error of his ways, admitted it and tried to put it right....haven't we all done the same? He may not be a Ferrari, maybe its my fault he's not but in the end he made it .....even at 1.5L speed that's a win in my eyes.

Look for failure, that's what you'll find, be grateful for success and you'll bring more.

If you stayed with me to here then again thank you :-).......now go and award yourself some shiny new hub caps you defo earned them!

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IrishDad79 · 14/04/2016 22:21

I'm being serious here, do you think your son smokes marijuana or some similar substance? Because there's something not quite right about that incident. It's beyond inconsiderate. I don't know, it's weird, it's like something you'd do if you were stoned.

IrishDad79 · 14/04/2016 22:22

I'm being serious here, do you think your son smokes marijuana or some similar substance? Because there's something not quite right about that incident. It's beyond inconsiderate. I don't know, it's weird, it's like something you'd do if you were stoned.

VinceNoirLovesHowardMoon · 15/04/2016 07:18

Op, I think most of the scathing responses on this thread weren't even aimed at you and your parenting - it was duchess and her absolute nonsense that was inflaming me anyway.
Yes, if my son had done something like this I would totally lose my shit and I'd blame myself at the same time. I felt you under reacted and wondered if you usually let him get away with selfish behaviour.
It's great that he acknowledged it off his own bat - has he done something that involves effort to make t up to you?