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to believe a child should not be left in pain screaming for 4 days??

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jaabaar · 12/04/2016 06:16

My 6 year old son had to wait 11 months for an appointment to fill a tiny hole. Well after 11 months little hole is a bit of a bigger problem.

Appointment is Friday morning. Since Saturday evening severe toothache. On max dose of panadol and ibuprofene. Does not help. Went Monday morning dentist emergency appointment. They said I just have to wait till Friday app in hospital. They can't give any other pain relief.
Night was so terrible. Screaming with pain begging me to help her.

Third night and day of not sleeping and on of pain.

Called 111 they can't help. Called dentist they can't help. Called hospital. They say u have to wait.

Why if I have to wait can't they help with pain??????????????

Am I being unreasonable to believe it's torture to leave a child in terrible pain for 4 days and nights??

OP posts:

BlueUggs · 12/04/2016 07:25

As an ex dental nurse, I would say that the severe toothache is due to the nerve in the tooth swelling and dying. Take him to a different dentist. You won't sort it with stronger pain relief. He needs treatment or extraction. Did the dentist take an X-Ray?

violentvioletx · 12/04/2016 07:32

As the tooth has had a hole in it for 11 months, do not put a temporary filling in, any bacteria will become trapped in the tooth and cause a 'pressure cooker' type effect pain wise. Use cold compresses for 15 minutes every half hour, keep head elevated including when asleep, salt water mouthwashes at room temperature for a minimum of 30 seconds, alternate paracetamol and ibuprofen, eg paracetamol 2-3 hours later ibuprofen and so on, a and e won't be able to help and will tell you to contact a dentist, you can try bonnets teething gel around the area to see if that helps. Only real option is to see if the dentist will do the filling in the surgery. Or try to book a sedation appointment privately, will be approx £50 for filling and anywhere from £250 for sedation

violentvioletx · 12/04/2016 07:33

Is it an adult or a baby tooth?

honkinghaddock · 12/04/2016 07:35

Jaabaar - it doesn't help that ds has asd and is non verbal. I even considered taking him to a and e and leaving him there so forcing someone to help him but decided that they wouldn't give a shit anyway.
Op - You could try seeing the dentist again.

violentvioletx · 12/04/2016 07:35

No jell not bonnet

violentvioletx · 12/04/2016 07:35

Omg BONJELA!!

differentnameforthis · 12/04/2016 07:53

Putting a temp filling in a hols that hasn't been cleaned out will not help. The decay will continue to grow.

11mths is a long time to wait. In that time have you tried to reduce sugar intake/up the oral hygiene, because you can halt the decay if you do.

I think at 6, your child cold have tolerated a minor procedure in the chair & really do not understand this need for referral to an already over stretched system. Especially when you don't how the child will react to a small filling.

Footle · 12/04/2016 08:03

Is the child a boy or a girl ? OP has said both he and she. Confusing.

LettingAgentNightmare · 12/04/2016 08:14

Why would anyone not take their child to a private dentist if they needed something doing and their child was in pain? A child does not need to wait 11 months and go to hospital for a filling.

dementedpixie · 12/04/2016 08:17

My ds had a filling at the normal dentist at around that age. I don't know why you would need referring elsewhere. He then had to get it replaced twice as it fell out. It was a baby tooth and the tooth with the filling is now out so he has none again

maddening · 12/04/2016 08:21

Why did you have to be referred for a filling?

sunnyshowers · 12/04/2016 08:24

Get Clove oil in the chemist. It won't fix tge problem but it's got a great ability to numb the pain. Drop directly on the tooth.

Now its got a taste but it does work as a temp pain relief..Honestly it's great

IwillrunIwillfly · 12/04/2016 08:29

Have you tried oragel? You need to ask for it at chemist but don't need a prescription. It's a numbing get that I've found really good for tooth ache in the past. Don't know whether it's allowed for kids though. Us there a dental hospital anywhere near you? If there is, even if it's a bit of a journey, could you call up and ask for their help? Where I am they'll see emergencies but only give basic treatments (pull a tooth rather than a crown for example) but they might be able to get him some help.

UnderTheGreenwoodTree · 12/04/2016 08:32

If it was a tiny hole in a tooth 11mths ago, I don't understand why the dentist didn't just fill it. 6yr olds are perfectly well able to sit in a dentist's chair for a tiny filling.

Ring another dentist today - if you can afford to go to a private dentist, do so. I paid (I think) £60 for a child's filling at a private dentist. Get ringing around today - it seems you're caught up in some NHS waiting list nightmare. It happens sometimes.

Catmuffin · 12/04/2016 08:41

If the child is in that much pain they may need the tooth out rather than just a filling, so probably needs sedation.

WombatStewForTea · 12/04/2016 08:45

Don't bother going to the gp. They can't give anything for dental issues. I've been in a similar situation last year and it was the worst experience of my life! Weirdly for me ice cold water was the only thing that would stop the pain but I was recommended to try heat too. Clove oil can be good but I don't know if it's allowed in children. Does your dental hospital have an emergency number?

ReallyTired · 12/04/2016 08:47

My son had a tooth extraction done at the age of seven under local with a normal out of hours dentist. No dental hospital needed. He had his first filling done on the NHS with an ordinary dentist a four years old.

The dentist used a special gel so that the needle for the local anestistic didn't hurt. He went slowly and explained what he was doing. He took his time and explained everything.

If your son won't cooperate with a normal dentist then he is choosing to be in pain.
I realise that six is young, but not impossible if you have the right dentist. No one likes their child having painful procedures and certainly a half decent dentist tries to avoid putting any patient in pain. As parents we need to avoid passing our anxieties to our children.

violentvioletx · 12/04/2016 08:52

Do not use heat on the area, will only make the pain worse, cold is the only thing that will help reduce pain. Nobody is saying OP has to go privately, was just a suggestion to get her child seen quicker, we all know what NHS waiting times are like due to lack of funding and resources, A and E actor gorillas will not do anything, neither will a GP, as I said before best course of action is to go back to own dentist and ask them to do it or pay privately if you can't wait for the sedation, NHS 111 have emergency dentists during the day Saturday and Sunday but appointments are limited they do not have an emergency dentist during the week. Most Max Fax units at hospitals will not see a walk in emergency for an already diagnosed cavity, they will see emergency a for knocked out teeth, huge swellings etc.

5608Carrie · 12/04/2016 08:58

Sorry haven't time to read full thread.

Could you pop over to the dental issues board and post there. Their is a dentist over there who could advise.

However if their is fever it is an infection and your child is it at risk of septacaemia and I would go straight to A&E.

firesidechat · 12/04/2016 09:02

Is the child a boy or a girl ? OP has said both he and she. Confusing.

I think the op has a daughter.

BarbarianMum · 12/04/2016 09:10

OP says son clearly in her first post.

ItsLikeRainOnYourWeddingDay · 12/04/2016 09:11

Why haven't you taken your child privately to have it dealt with? Eleven months is bloody ridiculous to leave a hole that needs filling.

In regards to pain relief. Go to a&e or walk in and do not leave. Even if they have to admit your child to be hooked up to continual IV pain meds it will be worth it.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 12/04/2016 09:12

However if their is fever it is an infection and your child is it at risk of septacaemia and I would go straight to A&E

I think this would be an overreaction

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 12/04/2016 09:12

Go to a&e or walk in and do not leave. Even if they have to admit your child to be hooked up to continual IV pain meds it will be worth it.

As would this.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 12/04/2016 09:13

just call the dentist and say he has a fever.

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