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This bothers me AIBU

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tortoiserock · 04/04/2016 17:03

So, I work shifts (fine) anti social hours (also fine) sometimes with someone else (fine.) This involves driving.

If I worked at asda 7-11 I wouldn't be expected to pick up my colleagues and drop them off so whys it considered an expectation because the job is car based? Or AIBU?

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liquidrevolution · 04/04/2016 19:41

What do your non driving colleagues think?

OzzieFem · 04/04/2016 19:42

First I would speak to your union and get a copy of the contract you first signed. Second I would check my car registration insurance details. We have two payments in Oz, one for private use and one for business use (dearer). You are using your car for business.

I worked in similar conditions, but it all started from a home base, unless you were on call. Then you used either a spare car (hah, that's a laugh, that you took home with you) or your own. I refused to use my old car, as if it broke down miles from anywhere I, (not the company) would be responsible for the towing and repairs. Whereas a company car had it's own breakdown service on call.

While mileage is usually paid, your car is also sustaining wear and tear besides using petrol. No company should have the right to demand employees go out of their way in their own time to pick up non-driving workmates. Get your union involved.

Penfold007 · 04/04/2016 20:42

As you are required to collect the non-driving colleague claim mileage from home to home so that you at least get mileage for providing transport services.

tortoiserock · 04/04/2016 20:48

You can't pen if only!

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QuiteLikely5 · 04/04/2016 20:58

Why can't you talk to a manager and say 'when I have to pick xxx up and drop her off it adds an extra 50 mins to my working day and that doesn't seem right to me' then see what she says?

I would look for another job, these people are chancing their luck and I suspect acting illegal in some way by not paying you for your time

fatshitcrazy · 04/04/2016 20:58

I used to work in the same job and you don't even get paid mileage to your first call or home from your last call, so essentially you are taking them to and from work on your own time and using your own petrol. They cannot demand that they do this it is not part of your job role, if they take on non drivers then it is their responsibility to ensure they get to and from calls. My old employers wouldn't take on non drivers for this reason. If someone's car wasn't working and we did ferry them around then we could claim for the extra mileage for pick ups and also get paid travel time, they would lose their mileage allowance for that day to make it fair and also meant the company wasn't losing out. Your company is seriously taking the piss. Just refuse it in future or say you won't do it without paid travel time and extra mileage, or request single calls.

Knackered69 · 04/04/2016 21:07

I did the same job for a while - I was mostly singles though. The whole set up is shit - from them not allowing travelling time between clients, and having to log in at each clients home and only being paid for the minutes you were there.

The phone calls at 6am on your day off asking you to work extra,

The phone calls in-between clients trying to squeeze extras in.

Doing someone else's round in a different area on a Sunday morning when you know none of the clients or the care that they need, and finding you have a list of 24 people to see, and they don't count travelling time into your schedule. And the phone calls on your way round asking why you aren't at Mrs b's house yet because her daughter is apoplectic.. .

I can feel my pulse rise and am starting to hyperventilate just thinking about it.

I got on really well with my clients and am still in touch with a couple after 5 years.

But Omg - the stress!!

CubicZirconiaBossyBabe · 04/04/2016 21:10

How about saying "I can't do that next week, I'm house sitting for a friend so will be arriving from work from the opposite direction"

CubicZirconiaBossyBabe · 04/04/2016 21:19

Then the next week: I have to pick my car up on the way, my neighbour is dropping me at the garage..

…. have an appointment near 1st client…

.. and so on till they get the hint that your time is yours until you're paid

TBF though your colleague is a bit cheeky too for taking it for granted, I never would have, I'ld be asking every week "are you sure it's okay/can't I fill the tank/I can get the bus if it doesn't suit" so it's not just the employer who needs to stop thinking you've nothing better to be doing (even if by "better" its just having the car to yourself to sing loudly if that's how you chose to spend your pre/post work commute)

ExasperatedAlmostAlways · 04/04/2016 21:36

Carers get the piss massively ripped out of them iv never once heard of any decent company. My sister had a twenty hour contract. She was out "working" for 38/39 hours a week because you don't get paid for travelling between clients it's a joke and she only got 15p/mile. My baby niece got rushed into hospital and they called my sister in the morning and afternoon every day chasing her to come back to work when she was in hospital seven days with my niece and didn't leave once. They also would call her an hour before she was due to start work and tell her she had to do a different run in another town half an hour away which would totally screw her child care up before and after her shift as it added extra time on compared to fuel five minute drive to the one she was meant to be at. Every month her wages were less than they should be and they gave some billshit. When she started they said she'd get every second weekend off, nonsense. The women in the office talked to her like rubbish. They told her she HAD to go to work when she had awful tosillites despite her working with palliative clients. They were awful. Fortunately she's left.

YANBU, something needs to be done about care companies.

Vixxfacee · 04/04/2016 22:00

Op I understand. Because you are a driver and they have employed a non driver they have expected you to pick up and take to first call and drop home after last.

You should say you have things to do prior and you don't mind colleague in the car if you are doing the same calls (after the first meet) but at the end of the shift you have things to do so can't drop home.

They take the piss out of care workers who drive and expect them to compensate the non drivers.

YADNBU

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