This bothers me AIBU

[tortoiserock]

So, I work shifts (fine) anti social hours (also fine) sometimes with someone else (fine.) This involves driving.

If I worked at asda 7-11 I wouldn't be expected to pick up my colleagues and drop them off so whys it considered an expectation because the job is car based? Or AIBU?

Is is your colleague who expects you to taxi them or has your employer said you have to?

Can you refuse tortoise?

It's both. Basically the company have recruited a load of people but they don't drive. So no it wasn't the case when I first started but that was because people drove then. People used to meet at the first call or somewhere convenient on the way.

Kinky well hopefully it's clear now, I think I've been rebuked enough for my lack of clarity, enough now.

I don't think you can fuzzy, and it's really annoying.

When i did care work on a partnered route we take turns to share car rides. However our company paid us mileage regardless individually.

So it's not in your contract? Did your employer have any meetings with driver colleagues to explain that they were now expected to ferry the non-drivers to and from the first and last visits? What is the non-driver colleague expected to do if the driving colleague is sick?

Could the other person make their way to yours by public transport? Or at least to somewhere more convenient to pick up?

Do you get mileage for collecting and dropping off? That still hasn't been answered, and without knowing this, it's impossible to say if yabu.

Sounds to me like you are straying dangerously into using your car "for hire or reward" beyond "commuting". In which case you could find yourself uninsured in the event of an accident when you are ferrying a colleague. Also your employer could be vicariously liable ...

This sounds tailor made for a union lawyer ?

They'd cover you with a driver, ElderlyKoreanLady.

I don't think I've ever had a contract, it probably is in it. We were told we had to pick them up and drop them off in the morning as these start v early and on the bed calls but it's hard as these are the times when you're just shattered and it really is a pain having to take people back especially when it's out of your way.

Bailey I think I have said actually, I've said we get mileage.

YANBU. I assume it doesn't state in your contract that you have to give lifts?

I would write a letter to your manager stating that asking you to pick up and drop off your colleague is a breach of your contract. You should have the option of not giving lifts or being paid for the additional time that you have to drive and pick up your colleague.

Does this mean that your colleague is picked up and dropped off every day? They have it very cushy,

Very

I mean, I don't get taxis often but it's more than 40p p/m I imagine.

Do you have a base you work from?

To me, both of you should meet at your base at your start time and car share for your community vists and return back to your base for the end of your shift and both you and your colleague make their own way to work and back home again just as you would for any other job.

No way I'd be driving another person to / from work everyday without a prior arrangement and petrol money!

Did any of the drivers challenge this when it started or have you all accepted it without question? Do any of you have a copy of a contract you could consult?

Although not yet law, the recent win for mobile workers in the EU courts means that from next year I think your company will have to pay you at your full hourly rate for your travelling time front he minute you leave you house to the minute you return.

I work for a company that employs mostly mobile workers and we have already instigated this (not a caring situation). However we do also expect and insist that drivers collect their non driving colleagues

The base would be miles in the opposite direction for some shifts, though.

To me the fair thing would be meet at first call end at last one. Obviously if I'm going in the direction of where the colleague lives I would pick up drop off although I think some money should be offered then. But when it takes you in the complete different direction to where you live it's really annoying.

I don't think I've ever had a contract

Really? You signed nothing when you first started working for this company? That said, there will be a contract - you need to look at it.

But how is that fair, wheres?

Yes I get petrol money but insurance, wear and tear, MOT all costs a bomb - what other job does this?

I signed something. Don't know where it is though.

You said you get mileage, you didn't clarify if that was for the dropping off as well. You need to give people information, not dripfeed it and then expect folk to fill in the blanks.

Anyway, as you get mileage paid and it's an expected part of your job, then you're being a bit unreasonable.

My understanding of mileage payments not that I'm any form of authority on the subject is that it's not just to cover petrol...it's for wear and tear, insurance, petrol, MOT, etc. More of a contribution towards keeping the car running than simply for petrol.

the recent win for mobile workers in the EU courts

Bloody red tape. The sooner we're out, the better (irony).

Tortoiserock Mon 04-Apr-16 17:22:37
Bailey I think I have said actually, I've said we get mileage.

I think the query was: Does the mileage allowance only cover between clients, or can you also claim for the picking up & dropping off of your colleague?

If you are claiming the mileage allowance for the extra then YABU for complaining. However, if the company refuse to compensate in this way for you going out of your way, YANBU.

If it isn't in your job description just tell them you can't do it anymore.