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To really really hate the SNP.

385 replies

Twooter · 13/03/2016 01:13

Got that off my chest.

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OneMagnumisneverenough · 14/03/2016 19:28

...and don't get me started on the Gaelic road signs, the bridge fiasco, the lack of appropriate challenge in the system, the centralised call centres for emergency services, the twats that they dragged in of the streets as they needed more people standing in the constituencies, they are an embarrassment and cost some dedicated MPs their job.

We are in danger of turning into a wee parochial backwater. It's not what I want for Scotland personally. We are much bigger and better than that.

Anyway, I'll shut up now :o

Ubik1 · 14/03/2016 19:35

The point is that limiting choices st Higher level isn't the rocky road to destruction - even for the much vaunted Scottish Education System.

Ubik1 · 14/03/2016 19:36

And I really don't get all the handwringing over centralised call centres.

QueenLaBeefah · 14/03/2016 19:37

We are not talking about limiting choices at higher level Confused

Nat 5 is the equivalent of GCSEs.

OneMagnumisneverenough · 14/03/2016 19:40

And I really don't get all the handwringing over centralised call centres.

Maybe try asking the families of those who've died because of it for a start. Or maybe the fire brigade who got sent to a heart attack victim as the call centre had sent the only available ambulance from a west coast rural area to Dundee...

Ubik1 · 14/03/2016 19:43

i thought national 5 was Higher level

Noofly · 14/03/2016 19:43

Queen, you don't live in West Lothian, do you? Our science choices are very limited at our catchment school. This year it's not offering a single science advanced higher! If you want to do one you have to see if another school will accept you and that it will fit into your timetable. It's hard enough to get onto medicine/vet courses and this is just one more barrier.

Noofly · 14/03/2016 19:44

Ubik, Highers are Higher level. Nat 5s are below that.

OneMagnumisneverenough · 14/03/2016 19:45

Hold the headlines, shock news, SNP supporter doesn't know what the fuck they are talking about....:o

Ubik1 · 14/03/2016 19:46

I worked in a centralised call centre. You simply task people who are on the ground with the information you are given. There is no advantage to 'local knowledge' when handling calls.

QueenLaBeefah · 14/03/2016 19:47

No, Edinburgh. Some very upset children (no chance of my DCs being doctors Grin) and some furious parents.

6 Nat 5s and then 5 highers seems to be the plan round here. It used to be 8 o grades (showing my age) and then 5 highers.

Even the SNP wouldn't dare touch the Highers.

Ubik - 5 highers is considered the equivalent of 3 a levels.

OneMagnumisneverenough · 14/03/2016 19:50

duh, yes there is. I have personal experience of this, it doesn't work. People who don't know the areas get places that sound similar confused, they don't know the roads so make horrendous mistakes when estimating journey times, they take no account of local stuff such as knowing that it's impossible to get from place A to place B without driving into an area blocked with rush hour traffic, but a local call centre knows that despite it looking further away you could send someone from Place C to get there faster. It's fucked up.

APlaceOnTheCouch · 14/03/2016 19:52

cheese it was an aside, not PA, since I have been saying all along that I don't find anecdotes that helpful as a measure of poltics. I prefer stats and research. If you read back my posts, I have also never said that the SNP are the only option. Most of my posts have been about teasing out the other options. I think democracy is weaker when there isn't a strong opposition party - unless you have a history of fruitful coalitions. But I don't hate or blame the SNP for the fact that that our current political system has neither a strong opposition or a likelihood of a working coalition.

Ubik1 · 14/03/2016 19:53

Well mine are al
In primary school and I am English do we did GCSEs and 3 A levels. Scottish system is bewildering. But I still don't think specialising is a massive problem.

Ubik1 · 14/03/2016 19:56

And I never said I was an SNP supporter - although I may vote for them - just that some of the arguments on here seem to be a touch ...um..hysterical.

QueenLaBeefah · 14/03/2016 19:56

So you are arguing about something you have no understanding of and no experience of either? And no, the Scottish education system is not bewildering.

Would you have liked to have done 6 GCSE? I enjoyed my 8 o grades and struggled choosing my 5 highers.

OneMagnumisneverenough · 14/03/2016 19:58

Well it is a bit of a problem if you are asking 13 year olds to effectively choose their Highers that they need to get into Uni. because they have narrowed down their subjects to 6 at an age where they probably have no clue what they want to do or are likely to change. At 13 my DS1 wanted to go into computer programming and now he is more interested in doing Politic or Law, but if for example he decided he wanted to do medicine he'd have to crash Highers in all the Sciences he hadn't done since he'd chosen to do Computing and graphics etc. Luckily he didn't have to choose until he was 14 and has 7 to choose so he is able to be a bit more flexible.

Ubik1 · 14/03/2016 19:59

How long do you think someone would have to be local Befit they got a call centre job?

There is plenty of technology to hand, you task he services on the ground who do have local knowledge.

Newly arrived from England, I handed calls from across Scotland. It's just not n issue.

cheeseandcrackers77 · 14/03/2016 20:01

Aplace I absolutely agree about it being weaker without a strong oposition, that makes me think the conservatives might be the only option. I really don't know how I feel about that though as I do not agree with a lot they do however I do think Ruth is a good politician and so is Anabel Goldie though I don't think she is standing again.

I do think feelings are running high and it is good people are engaged in politics. Perhaps I will acceed that's one thing the SNP have done right lol

It is a minefield who to pick but at least I know who I'm definitely not voting for Wink

OneMagnumisneverenough · 14/03/2016 20:04

Until, it wasn't an issue for you, I can assure you it would be an issue for other people. What bit of that do you not understand?

Ubik1 · 14/03/2016 20:06

Well it's certainly concerning that Scottish pupils are excluded from university degree subjects such as medicine.

And yes it is concerning the you can only take six subjects st National 5. Do people pick up other National 5 dubjects later on?

I really enjoyed only having 3 A Level subjects

OneMagnumisneverenough · 14/03/2016 20:06

ubik that was meant to say.

cheeseandcrackers77 · 14/03/2016 20:06

We are lucky our school allows all 3 sciences to be taken but my DD is going into 4th year and is dropping 2 subjects and when she goes into 5th she needs to drop another and that's hard as she doesn't want to drop anymore. It's a shame these poor kids. Oh and don't start me on the fiasco that was last year's higher maths.

Ubik1 · 14/03/2016 20:08

What bit of that do you not understand?

I didn't say that I didn't understand you, just that I do not agree with you, based on my experience.

You are very grumpy Magnum. Perhaps you should have a peanut butter one.

OneMagnumisneverenough · 14/03/2016 20:10

There would be no point picking up more Nat5s as they can't use them for uni. The point is that they should do a progression from Nat 5 to Higher, but lack of Nat 5 options means that they'd have to crash extra highers.