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To think this video explains, why a 'significant' number of parents want a grammar school or at least the same socio economic or culture mix when choosing a school

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jonesthegirl · 10/03/2016 12:52

www.ahs.bucks.sch.uk/dvd/

This video highlights the huge discrepancies between state schools, particulary 'grammar' schools and non selective 'comprehensives' .

The video demonstrates a school that is a totally calm and pleasant environment . A place where even a 'raised'voice by a pupil to teacher would be rebuffed as equally by fellow pupils as the member of staff.

This shows that it is not just academic standards that are 1000% better but behaviour, mutal respect and endorses the old saying.

'you become like the people you socialise with'

OP posts:
Icompletelyunderstand · 11/03/2016 06:27

It's like bloody Groundhog Day.

yes but the poster's user name, the cast and the setting is slightly different each time. Only the general plot remains the same.

This poster wears the worst cloak of invisibility ever. I have absolutely no problem with NCing and changing a few minor details here and there for privacy's sake, but when you start to elaborate and fantasise with reams and fucking reams of irrelevant background info on your family, their jobs, where they went to uni and where they live, much of which is completely fabricated bolleaux then it's time to step away from the internet and get a job.

ilovesooty · 11/03/2016 06:30

Icompletelyunderstand
The obsession certainly is tiresome.

Chippednailvarnish · 11/03/2016 06:39

Icompletelyunderstand
Think of the hours that went into changing Kent to Hertfordshire and the family business into Superdrug Wink

mycatsloveeachother · 11/03/2016 06:40

Why is it deemed ok if one poster endlessly brings up a subject and not another?

Why do some of the posters here complain about the name change facility being abused and then criticise someone who isn't abusing it?

Why not move on to another thread?

I'm guessing because you've seen an easy target.

ilovesooty · 11/03/2016 06:44

mycatsloveeachother the OP upset quite a few people with her posts previously and is upsetting quite a few people on this thread. I'm commenting on this particular situation not the contributions of other posters and I for one really resent the implied accusation of bullying.

Chippednailvarnish · 11/03/2016 06:50

Why do some of the posters here complain about the name change facility being abused and then criticise someone who isn't abusing it?

Your idea of not abusing the name change facility to insult other people's school choices is clearly different to mine.

mycatsloveeachother · 11/03/2016 06:54

I've been upset by a few people's posts previously but I don't bring it onto every thread they start or I see them on.

Chipped,my out all recognised thenOP - I assumed this meant she hadn't name changed. Apologies if I got that wrong.

ilovesooty · 11/03/2016 06:59

She has name changed and she caused a lot of upset under her previous name. I reported this thread to MNHQ when it began and have now reported it again.

Icompletelyunderstand · 11/03/2016 07:05

Why do some of the posters here complain about the name change facility being abused and then criticise someone who isn't abusing it?

What do you mean by that? I genuinely do not understand. Confused

I don't care about name changing one iota. I don't even care if people occasionally tell a small lie to protect their RL identity so long as it's a harmless lie that doesn't 'throw' the thread or aim to influence it in any way.

I do care when people make up very elaborate, detailed and fantastical bollocks to support their own argument on a thread, and indeed to create the whole premise for a thread, especially when they don't even have the foresight to cross reference what they've told us on other threads, so it becomes a laughable and pointless.

This poster has three (possibly four but I am struggling to remember the fourth) user names that I know of and in each one there are consistencies that make her very, very identifiable, not just her idiosyncratic posting style and her obsession with topic, but certain info she ALWAYS gives out about herself which is distinctive and never changes.

But within each of those user names she gives then herself a totally different persona, different family background, she lives in a different county (three so far) her DS is a DD, she has 3 kids, or she has four etc, etc, so far so harmless? Maybe. Until she starts fabricating whole scenarios around one of her family members which goes into the most extraordinary detail but it is totally different to what she has told us about the same family member before.

And that's just. plain. weird.

Chippednailvarnish · 11/03/2016 07:16

Multiple name changing, posting bollocks to insult people (wasn't educating children by culuture and socio economic mix what Hitler wanted), isn't on.

mycatsloveeachother · 11/03/2016 07:21

I agree with that Chipped

Truth is, I've been coming across a few hostile posts and it's made me feel defensive.

BertrandRussell · 11/03/2016 07:24

I don't care about name changing either. Obviously. Well, actually, I do. I wish people, including me, didn't. But we can, so it's it's fine.

I do care about people posting rubbish about education in a way that is likely to worry people looking for information. I also have real concerns about the characterization of mental health presented.

Icompletelyunderstand · 11/03/2016 07:26

I don't care about name changing either. Obviously. Well, actually, I do. I wish people, including me, didn't. But we can, so it's it's fine.

LOL Grin Me too!

SurferJet · 11/03/2016 07:35

Haven't watched the link or RTFT, but yes, on the whole, children are better behaved & achieve better results at grammar/private schools. But that's been obvious for about 50 years. Sadly, we aren't rich enough ( & my kids aren't clever enough ) for the best schools so we've had to cross our fingers & hope for the best. All good so far, but it very much depends on where you live wrt good comp schools.

GreatFuckability · 11/03/2016 07:43

I grew up in care homes, was dirt poor and as low as it came socio-economically.
I have 10 A and A* grade gcses, I have 3 A grade A levels, a first class undergrad degree, a masters degree and I'm studying a second undergrad degree at the moment.
So stick that in your ridiculous pipe and smoke it.

Brummiegirl15 · 11/03/2016 07:52

I went to Aylesbury High and I can assure you that video is just pr guff.

And Aylesbury definitely ain't all that, and I live in Birmingham now and that's really saying something!

BertrandRussell · 11/03/2016 10:52

"Haven't watched the link or RTFT, but yes, on the whole, children are better behaved & achieve better results at grammar/private schools"

No they aren't and no they don't. The sort of children who are well behaved and achieve well do so wherever they go.

If this was not true, wholly selective LEAs would do significantly better in terms of results and exclusions than wholly comprehensive ones. But they don't. It's just that the top sets are herded off to a separate school. Which, not surprisingly, achieves very good results-it would be a scandal if they didn't. And the "other" schools - (you know, the ones where 75% of our children go)- get a disproportionate number of lower attainers, children from disadvantaged backgrounds and children with behavioral issues and sen. So their results, not surprisingly, look a bit crap. At comprehensive schools these two groups are averaged out- so the results still can look a bit crap compared to grammar schools. Which is understandable - but most people don't understand basic statistics.

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