To think this video explains, why a 'significant' number of parents want a grammar school or at least the same socio economic or culture mix when choosing a school

[jonesthegirl]

www.ahs.bucks.sch.uk/dvd/

This video highlights the huge discrepancies between state schools, particulary 'grammar' schools and non selective 'comprehensives' .

The video demonstrates a school that is a totally calm and pleasant environment . A place where even a 'raised'voice by a pupil to teacher would be rebuffed as equally by fellow pupils as the member of staff.

This shows that it is not just academic standards that are 1000% better but behaviour, mutal respect and endorses the old saying.

'you become like the people you socialise with'

38% GCSE 2015 and on the way down from 2014/13 22% High and 50% Middle so the GCSE pass rate should be at least 50% regardless of changes to grade boundaries.

The school 'relative' success in 'crowd control' is dependant on the head, if she left the school it could quite easily revert to how it was 'noted at 3 minutes 10 by the sixth former'.

The school looks like it has 'millons' spent on it as well so 38% is not a great return for the investment..

You want to segregate people into class / race groups?

And you seem to think that Grammar schools are only for those of certain socio-economic groups? Believe me, intelligence has nothing to do with class.

YABU and a disgusting human being, also.

Glad to see good British class snobbery and "me me me" is alive and well ...

my DDs are post uni despite going to local ordinary comps! Great A levels, good uni ...more to do with family expectations/support than comp/grammar/ndependent

Not you again.

You should nove to NI I'm tripping over twats who think Grammar schools are the DBs. They aren't btw.

Spot the brunette.

Oh my God, are you still at it? Seriously, do you EVER think about anything else?

You are starting to develop a fantasy life just for MN now though, aren't you? It's just outright lies, most of it.

Stop it. It's embarrassing. You are making yourself look like a total whackjob.

Not you again.

May your DD decide to teach in a state comp as punishment for spouting such bollocks.

The cleverest child in DD's primary class is probably one from one of the 'roughest' families. So would this DC be allowed in to your Grammar school? Actually, probably wouldn't get in anyway as the DP wouldn't have the time or knowledge or money to pay for tutoring for 11+.

Luckily we are in a comp area where top children get straight A*/A and kids aren't segregated at 11 based on middle class sharp elbows.

For a start who educated you, you don't need quotation marks for grammar and comprehensives and you can't punctuate properly. I think your snobbery is slightly misplaced, and almost xenophobic (look it up).

Secondly, the 11 plus, even in its current form is little more than a test of socio-economic background, not ability. Students from non selective state schools out perform students from grammars and privates at uni, can't be all that bad!

Back to my outstanding non-selective comp I go.

Oh god, this op again. Seriously, get a hobby. Or should that be 'get' a 'hobby'.

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Parents want children to attend school with only those of their class background and ethnic background? Is that really what you're saying here?
I've never heard any parent express that view, overtly or otherwise.
As my children are not of Asian origin, we'd better not apply for 11+ then?

Nah. My 15yo – who’s from a quite posh middle-class white/Asian family – has just come in with her black, working-class best mate (who does better than she does in class, and DD1’s no slouch, btw). I’ll stick with the comp, thanks. Not least because they’re all going to end up with a fistful of top grades.

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It's quite obvious from this thread that, no matter the educational level and aspirations, stupid is stupid.

Heck, just look at the government front bench. Millions, collectively, spent on their educations, but still a rather generous sprinkling of stupid.

It's a promo video, so it isn't going to feature bullying, fighting, theft or arson. All of which happened at my grammar.

Yes, Ida - but at least you were being bullied by your socioeconomic peers...

(sorry, just realised that in my haste for sarcasm, I cast you as the bullied student )

Oooh I went to that school, and I can tell you know the over compedative, bitchy, parrot learning environment has made me 1000%😉 Know I would never send my child to a grammar school.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/If....

It's a bit like me posting this link to warn you of the dangers of educating your boys privately in single sex schools. Possibly not an entirely unbiased portrayal (even if my dad who went to such a school in the 1960s claims it is representative)

Oops I of course meant
www.rottentomatoes.com/m/if1968/
If... By Linsay Anderson

And having not come from the typical economic backgroup of majority of the pupils there I've not done particularly better for my self than my peers from the rough as arses comp across the sports field....

Oh give over

Oh give over OP (to be precise).

'i before e except after c'

It's a promo video, so it isn't going to feature bullying, fighting, theft or arson. All of which happened at my grammar.

Ida well said. That's exactly what I was trying to say. Being succinct has never been one of my strong points.

If you have parents who would confuse an advertisement with a fly on the wall documentary you need all the help you can get.