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to be fed up of people being PROUD of themselves?

103 replies

amidonefor · 05/03/2016 10:03

Every TV show seems to have people banging on about how proud they are of what they've done.

It seems so big-headed - so immodest and boastful.

Perhaps this is more about poor usage of language

The BBC has an ad campaign for itself running on the theme of Run yourself proud, ride yourself proud, punch yourself proud, row yourself proud, wank youself proud....

that kind of thing - I'm living in the past I guess, where pride was a sin and modesty was a virtue

Pride comes before a fall

Fall yourself proud

bah

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OneTiredMama · 05/03/2016 10:42

Completely agree with OP waiting for all you arseholes to see how great I am Grin.

One of my friends has form for this 'DC's up, dressed and fed before 9am. I'm so proud of myself' and other twattery like 'Just finished a whole McDonald's Big Mac Meal. Proud'. Who bloody cares? It's good to be proud of yourself for something you've worked hard at and achieved but even then I keep it to myself. OTOH maybe I'm just a grump and we should all go about telling everyone how brilliant we are. Off to change DS nappy now, so proud of myself.

CaptainMarvelDanvers · 05/03/2016 10:44

It's a bit like when people say they are proud of being insert nationality here. I don't get why they're proud of something they have no control of, they were just born in a place.

Kelsoooo · 05/03/2016 10:47

Well in my experience I have to be proud of myself and tell certain people in my life otherwise they piss all over my achievements. And given my typically shocking self esteem issues and the obstacles I've had to overcome, fuck yeah if I'm proud of myself ill state it.

Because actually, I am proud of the fact that despite my fear of driving, personality disorder and subsequent mental health issues.... In the last two years I've passed my driving test, got back into full time employment in my relevant field after five years of not working, and completed over half of my degree and am on track to recover a First Class Honours all whilst having two young children and being married.

So why do I say I'm proud of this? Because I've had to learn new skills, including basic ones like how to relax, and done it BY MYSELF. With no input from other people. And yet when I tell my mother I get the response of "well you're catching your brother up"

So fuck off saying pride goes before a fall. If I fall and fail, well I'll deal with that too. But in the meantime my loved ones can know I'm proud of myself.

Thisisnotausername · 05/03/2016 10:47

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AnchorDownDeepBreath · 05/03/2016 10:47

I think you have a strange view of pride. It isn't arrogance - some proud people might also be arrogant, and arrogant people are probably more likely to be proud of themselves, but the two aren't the same.

Being proud of yourself isn't a bad thing. Bragging about it can be odd, but I think it depends on what you're proud of. If it's cleaning the house, you probably don't need to share your pride. If it's passing your driving test or getting a good new job, it's more shareable. Then again, these days everything is shareable...

As for other people feeling proud of you, it doesn't always work like that. I'm orphaned so I have no parents to be proud. I do have friends and close colleagues but some in my situation might not. Equally, some people might have family that doesn't show pride.

MattDillonsPants · 05/03/2016 10:49

Oh I agree! Same with the self-congratulatory Facebook posts.

"Little pat on the back for me! I've just walked the dog, cleaned the house from top to bottom and cooked dinner!....Now for a well deserved glass of wine!"

Fuck off. You've basically just done your duties. Same as all of us.

Trouble is this woman is good mate. I just wish she'd stop being so PROUD of the mundane.

Didactylos · 05/03/2016 10:49

I bet you are proud of this thread OP.....

KeyserSophie · 05/03/2016 10:52

thisisnnot But that's something that's worth being proud of.

It's when I see people saying they did Race for Life but didn't train so just walked it (5k) and are "proud of themselves". Wtf? People across the world walk that both ways to school, when they're 6.

Caveat for MN: No, they have no disabilities. If they were double amputees, obviously that would be something.

LaurieMarlow · 05/03/2016 10:52

Being proud of who you are, where you come from and what you've achieved is crucial to your sense of self worth and esteem. So from that PoV, you're not only unreasonable, but being an arse.

And there's nothing wrong with taking pride in the small things either. 3 kids out and dressed by 9am can be a huge deal - especially for someone struggling with depression or similar.

And again, discussing it is an important and positive thing. We get a lot of our validation from others. I suspect it's our culture of not doing this in an everyday, low key way that leads to the overblown displays we see on social media.

I respectfully suggest that the attitudes I'm seeing on this thread are a big part of the problem.

RhodaBull · 05/03/2016 10:55

Hear, hear, OP.

I hate the "I'm proud of myself" mantra.

When dd was at primary school they started every day singing this dire song, "Give yourself a pat on the back, a pat on the back, a pat on the back" de dum de dum and it ended up, "because you're you!" Why the hell were they congratulating themselves before the day had even started? I'm all for positivity, but this insidious encouraging kids to think of themselves as important has resulted in so many of them now being very self-absorbed.

TheyAreNotBuns · 05/03/2016 10:55

Self esteem issues. Anxiety. Depression. Largely come about thanks to being lack of praise in childhpod. Where being modest, self deprecating and not allowing antlyone to celebrate the good stuff. Some hours of therapy layer I have in my toolbox of things to help: Celebrating my own achievements, however small. Accepting that actually sometimes being "good enough" is, well good enough. And to be tell myself well done for getting there and to not fret about being perfect.

I still really struggle with it. But am learning.

Boastful arrogance should be slated maybe. But pride in your own achievements should be encouraged and celebrated. So wind your neck in. You have no right to judge others for being pleased with what they have achieved.

MrsDeVere · 05/03/2016 10:56

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80sMum · 05/03/2016 10:57

Isn't pride one of the "seven deadly sins"?
I didn't have a religious upbringing, but I was brought up to believe that it's wrong to be proud of oneself, that pride is having an inflated or exaggerated view of one's own abilities or achievements.
I don't think I could ever be" proud" of anything I have done or anything about myself. That word implies boastfulness and an egotistical, narcissistic nature, to me.
I can be pleased or satisfied with something I have done, but never proud.

RhodaBull · 05/03/2016 11:00

I do think it pre-dates Cameron, to be fair!

I remember when Rebecca Fergusson was on X Factor, and the judges kept saying, "You're a single mum, you should be so proud of yourself." You're an X Factor contestant! Surely it doesn't matter whether you're a single mum, a married mum or have committed bigamy and are married to 14 men.

KeyserSophie · 05/03/2016 11:00

I agree that people have a right to be proud of their achievements, but it's the need to constantly share that with the world in an ongoing search for external validation that is so wearing.

Adults have to do shit they don't want to do all the time. Doing them is not really a big deal. It's just being a functioning member of society.

Pepperpot99 · 05/03/2016 11:00

Please read Zoe Williams' article from The Graun the other day: it's called "Me Me Me - the epidemic of narcissism" or something like it. It's blisteringly true. I would link to it but I am incapable of such technical expertise AND PROUD OF IT [WINK]

Agree with you OP - far too much back slapping and all round congratulating for the mediocre and dull, IMO.

PandoesnotwearRaphaclothes · 05/03/2016 11:07

Grumpsville OP. And soooo British!

Whereas I'm fucking awesome in everything I do. So proud!

li33i · 05/03/2016 11:09

there is however, that sense of achievement you get after completing a difficult and cumbersome task - perhaps one that has been beset with difficulties, hardships, death even? There IS a sense of pride at having the bollocks to overcome and achieve. Ohh how fucking tiresome that we can't be proud because of meekness..I'm proud everyday of our beautiful son and the difficulties he positively overcomes (he has autism) I'm proud of my husband, I'm proud proud proud. Even the cat God bless her, I'm proud of her because the vet said yesterday they had never seen a cat of 15 look so well! #beproud #proudlicious

OneTiredMama · 05/03/2016 11:09

I'm not saying that getting the kids out and dressed is not something to be proud of but it can be annoying when every daily activity is broadcasted.

I have been sectioned under MH act, living in hostels and MH facilities, actively suicidal, extremely ill due to ED's and unemployed for a very long period because of all this. I now have a degree, two other higher ed. qualifications, a job that I love and that works around my MH, a roof over my head, a fiance and a beautiful son. Yes I'm proud for fighting back and getting where I am today but I'm quietly proud. The only reason I'm sharing this now is on the presumption that I'm putting people down. I'm not. I simply meant that sometimes it can be too much, especially when you are struggling and others are telling you how proud they are every day.

It's down to the individual, whatever makes you happy but it can be hard to take sometimes.

MadeMan · 05/03/2016 11:10

I'm not impressed by people running marathons and similar things then posting it all up on social media for bragging rights, 'likes' or whatever.

Everybody does all that kind of stuff nowadays and it seems you can walk round most of these events anyway, so it's not that great really unless you win it.

Nicky333 · 05/03/2016 11:12

I've done lots of things I'm proud of. I don't brag about them though, which would be arrogance. People can be proud without banging on about it.

acasualobserver · 05/03/2016 11:15

Respect to the people who have struggled with and overcome low self-esteem to achieve great things. However, when I was a teacher (retired now) it seemed that, increasingly, pupils were suffering from the polar opposite of low self-esteem.

80schild · 05/03/2016 11:16

Agree with OP - completely fed up of all of it. I am not proud.

LoisWilkersonsLastNerve · 05/03/2016 11:17

spam faced tosser
Grin

I don't think anyone is saying you can't be proud of yourself, in fact the issue is more that the word being overused is in danger of making the word feel meaningless now. kelsoo you are right to feel proud but someone bragging about bring proud of not falling off their high heels is a bit Hmm

MrsDeVere · 05/03/2016 11:18

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