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AIBU?

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To not let my MIL babysit and cancel this weekend away if we have to?

97 replies

laggielatcher · 04/03/2016 14:31

DH has booked a weekend away just us 2 for my 40th and our 15yr wedding anniversary. He has said he is going to ask his Mum to babysit. I'm torn over this.

I will start by saying I am a little dog phobic. Was badly attacked by one as a child and still have the scars to prove it. I'm OK around small dogs that I know and are well trained and happy to let DC play with them etc.

MIL has just rescued a dog from her local dogs home (not 100% sure on breed sorry) but it's a "big" dog. Very little is known about it's past- but MIL herself told me it barred it's teeth at a child who got over excited when they were out walking a few weeks ago.

She treats it like a baby- it's allowed to go anywhere in the house, sleeps on her bed, eats off her plates etc. She keeps asking me to bring DC (3 and 16 months) round to meet him.

She is quite an irresponsible dog owner. I'm not in anyway suggesting she gets rid as she is very lonely atm- DFil passed away at Halloween and she is quite isolated so the dog is her only company some days. But she has no training regime and the dog runs riot around the house. This is all at DMILs admission and from what we have seen on Skype.

She had a collie previously who ended up having to get put down because it got out of her garden and was run over. It was completely barking. The dog was lovely and wasn't aggressive but it would jump all over eldest DC when he was tiny and would push him over when he was toddling about. MIL didn't understand what the "big deal was and to see it as a learning curve for him". She would never put the dog outside when I came round with him- the best we got was he would be locked in the kitchen and would howl the place down and then you would get jumped all over if you went in for a cup of tea or whatever. Me and DH would argue with her continuously with her over this and then when her collie was run over while we felt sorry for her we couldn't help but feel "we told you so". DFil was the same when he was alive.

I don't want to pass my phobia on to my DC at all. I really don't- i'm happy for them to be around dogs and may even consider getting a small, trainable one ourselves when they are old enough to help care for it.

Now the issue:

We don't have many friends around here (or ones that would babysit for 3 nights anyway) and my family live abroad. Our options are either MIL who is an hours drive away and 30 mins away from the airport we are flying from or SIL and her DP who live at the other end of the country so to take them to SIL we would have to take extra days off work, drive up and drop the DC off and double back on ourselves to get to the airport and drive up to collect them which will be added expense with fuel.

MIL won't kennel the dog. She has never liked kennels and if she has gone on holiday in the past when she had a dog she would send it to SIL or DP had it when he lived alone.

DP doesn't want to drive to SILs. I don't want the DC going to MILs where there is a dog who will be a pampered brat and who's history we don't know anything about and has shown aggressive tendencies. Both will be more than happy to babysit

I've told DP unless he comes up with a solution we will have to cancel the weekend away. He has gone off to work in a sulk.

AIBU?

OP posts:
MistressDeeCee · 04/03/2016 15:05

Veterinari I said some, not all. Most dog owners are sensible but there are some who really are not. The advice here is good in comparison to what Ive seen on similar dog threads in the past

Actually OP in your shoes Id just do the inconvenience of going to SIL. Factor in the extra expense and time for that. Don't cancel your trip away.

cuckoooo · 04/03/2016 15:05

This is a no-brainer. Of course YANBU.

Just take the kids with you. I never understand parents that need to 'get away' for whatever reason.

TBH, DH and I have never had even one night away ever. Of course they have had nights away from us, but never the other way around.

MartinaJ · 04/03/2016 15:07

I have a high-strung cat who is so random in her reactions we had to learn to "speak cat" to assess her reactions. Whenever our DD has a playdate, we always make sure children know not to pet the chubby fluffy darling on top of the sofa and we make sure they don't come closer to her.
Your MIL is very irresponsible. This dog maybe good for her as a companion but I would never leave my child with someone whose pet is unpredictable and doesn't even respect its owner. Any injury caused by an irritated cat pales in comparison with an angry dog on a mission. Find yourself another babysitter or cancel, no matter how much you want that time off. It's not worth it, even if nothing happens, you'll spend your time thinking about what's happening and not being able to concentrate properly.

laggielatcher · 04/03/2016 15:09

Thank you everyone.

Had a moody phone call from DH saying he can't get extra leave anyway so driving to DSIL is out of the question. It's 250 miles away so there's no chance I could do it on my own plus i'm not a very confident motorway driver (i'm not as pathetic as i'm making myself sound- honest!) They can't come here because SIL works on call most weekends and while her DP is lovely and loves kids- there is no chance he could cope on his own for 4 days and 3 nights. not with my little hell raisers anyway

She has had the dog for just over 6 weeks.

OP posts:
expatinscotland · 04/03/2016 15:10

YABU. I'd also be pretty miffed if my spouse booked a weekend away without consulting me first. I'd tell him, either he drives to the SIL or no trip.

expatinscotland · 04/03/2016 15:11

Sorry, YANBU. My first post was a mistake.

tabulahrasa · 04/03/2016 15:12

"The advice here is good in comparison to what Ive seen on similar dog threads in the past"

Were they similar though? Because sometimes they're more along the lines of the OP not wanting children to spend time with family pets that have never given cause for concern and grandparents who sound like perfectly responsible dog owners.

That's when people go Hmm

This isn't that, the dog may or may not be ok with children but it's kind of irrelevant if the MIL won't manage interactions or prevent them altogether until she knows and then act appropriately if there is an issue.

SmallLegsOrSmallEggs · 04/03/2016 15:14

You cannot meet SIL or her DP half way and pass the dc to them?
Alternatively trip away somewhere eith the dc where there is childcare.

leedy · 04/03/2016 15:14

"Just take the kids with you. I never understand parents that need to 'get away' for whatever reason."

(slightly off-topic)

A desire to have a morning that doesn't feature being woken up at 7am by someone shouting about poo/dinosaurs/yoghurt? Wanting to go to non-child-friendly hotels/festivals? Remembering that you quite enjoyed spending uninterrupted time with your significant other?

Though clearly I am insufficiently devoted to my offspring as while I love spending time with them I also quite enjoy (very) occasional "getting away"....

MrsArthurShappey · 04/03/2016 15:15

£££ I know but can you not fly one of your family members in for babysitting?

Peoniepink · 04/03/2016 15:16

YANBU. Just wodering if it is an option for SIL to look after the dog and MIL(in dog free house) to look after the DC? And MIL to do the travelling bit ;)

expatinscotland · 04/03/2016 15:23

He should be the one finding the compromise. Why is it for you to sort out? Of course, his solution is to dump the kids in a place that is potentially dangerous as that's the laziest and easiest option. I'd be incredibly displeased.

Siberiananya · 04/03/2016 15:26

I would cancel or find other arrangements and I say this as an animal lover, 2 dogs one of which is a rescue and two cats both rescue. I still keep my dogs locked away in the kitchen when we have unfamiliar visitors or children in the house. Thry are told under no circumstances are they to enter the kitchen unsupervised. This isn't because the dogs have ever shown any incline for vicious or untrustworthy behaviour because they are as soft and trustworthy as dogs can be. I do it protect other people in my house from any potential for harm and protect my dogs from any potential situation where they feel threatened in thier house by strangers or excitable children. If you cannot trust your MIL to take precautions to protect both your children from harm or the dog (who has shown a lack of tolerance for children)from being placed in a situation where it feels the only option is to harm, then it's a no brainer for me I couldn't live with myself if i knowingly put my children in that situation and something happened

diddl · 04/03/2016 15:32

I know it was supposed to be just the two of you, but would taking the kids be a possibility rather than lose a weekend away?

Take a friend & leave him with the kids?

ILoveWillSmith · 04/03/2016 15:32

I agree with everyone else, YANBU at all.
I've had my lovely spaniel for 12 years and I've never even heard him growl at anyone let alone bare his teeth at someone, however I would never leave him unsupervised with children and he has strict rules about where he is allowed in the house. (I can't bear dogs being allowed in/on beds, it's disgusting).
I would worry all weekend about my dc's in this situation so the weekend would be ruined anyway.
I don't have any useful advice I'm afraid, I just wouldn't go if them staying with MIL was the only option.

ErniesGhostlyGoldTops · 04/03/2016 15:35

I work with dogs and have seen first hand what a dog can do to a child's face. Please don't compromise on this. Go with your gut feeling.

CottonSock · 04/03/2016 15:38

I'd take the kids this time and book something else that fits with childcare, be in sil, nanny or other.

Yanbu at all. It's a long time to leave small children without the dog worry.

LeaLeander · 04/03/2016 15:41

YANBU. Even my friendly, loving and laid-back little Chihuahuas don't seem to like children for some reason. I would not be comfortable with toddlers staying in my home even though the dogs have never snapped, bitten or been aggressive. Let alone a big dog with unknown history and a precarious adjustment to his new home!

Can you revisit the idea of kenneling the dog? Would the rescue league find it a foster home for the week? When I first got my two I had a previously scheduled vacation and the rescue league organizer took them into her home for that period, so they didn't have to go to a strange kennel.

Otherwise I would say you have to cancel. It's just one of those things, with small kids and no other relatives nearby.

Or - could you book a holiday more in the area where your SIL is and drop them on the way? That way you'd still get out on your own but the logistics would be a bit simpler.

expatinscotland · 04/03/2016 15:41

'Take a friend & leave him with the kids?'

Hmm

'Hey, mate, will you come along with us to our weekend away so we can dump our kids on you whilst we swan off?' 'Oh, yeah, sure, where do I sign up?'

ScoutsMam · 04/03/2016 15:42

YANBU.

I wouldn't go. I couldn't enjoy myself for worrying.

ScoutsMam · 04/03/2016 15:43

'Take a friend & leave him with the kids?'

"'Hey, mate, will you come along with us to our weekend away so we can dump our kids on you whilst we swan off?' 'Oh, yeah, sure, where do I sign up?'"

I think they meant take a pal on holiday and leave the DH at home Grin

OneFlewOverTheDodosNest · 04/03/2016 15:44

Yanbu at all but if you want an easy out to MIL you can point out that it's not fair on a new dog that's not fully settled in to have to put up with 2 small children when they've not met before.

FWIW I would definitely not leave small children around even a lovely dog that I trusted - even with low chance, it's far too high risk for the child and the dog

ExitPursuedByABear · 04/03/2016 15:46

I wouldn't do it.

Mombino · 04/03/2016 15:46

YANBU at all. Not one little bit. Your DH reeaallly needs to grow up. Sulking and stropping because you don't want to leave your children somewhere unsafe? Grrrrrr

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