To think the 'Disrespect NoBody' ad campaign is horribly sexist?

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Not sure if this has already been discussed but has anybody else seen the 'Disrespect NoBody' TV adverts that are supposedly raising awareness for healthy relationships and domestic violence?

Every single scenario in the advert is targeted at men abusing women whether it be physically or emotionally. Y'know because men are never victims?

I worked for 10 years with victims of domestic violence, predominantly women as it was for charity for people with children, skews the figures. I did work with a number of men who had suffered domestic abuse and for them to make a first step move away from the perpetrator particularly if that also involved children and the potential removal of children away from their mother was a significant issue.I also supported a lot of women fleeing violence from women. Domestic violence includes female partners, parents, children, and anyone you live with.

Whilst domestic violence towards men is no worse than towards a woman, the stigma surrounding it is stronger. to perpetuate the myth that all victims are female and all perpetrators are men is wrong.

In my opinion the advert should have included a female perpetrator and a male victim.

Having a man as a victim is not going to influence the impact of the advert on women. And in fact will stop twats like the MRA getting frothy.

Violence and abuse is wrong no matter who is on the receiving end. And if you can encourage one person to stop abusing their partner or one person to flee with their children that is important. Not what sex they are.

The 40% figure has been debunked so thoroughly on here, so many times, I'm surprised anyone still quotes it - except of course, MRAs.

The 40% figure has been debunked so thoroughly on here, so many times, I'm surprised anyone still quotes it - except of course, MRAs.

Okay then, help me out, why am i getting 41% when using the figures from the national statistics graph posted?

I'm honestly curious here, what am i doing wrong?

Women are more often violent only in self defense.
Also the way police record the crime is one per victim, one per perpetrator, while women will be on the receiving end of violence numerous repeated times it will be recorded officially was one occurrence.

You need to analyse the actual records and work in DV to unravel the problem.

The perpetrators of domestic violence are indeed mostly Male (80%), but the figures show 40% of domestic abuse victims are also male.

Figures always confuse me.

2 women per week are killed by a male partner. Apptox 2 men a year are killed by female partner. Dsir difference.

I also get a figure of 16% occurrence female-on-male dv from
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But isn't domestic violence something different to domestic abuse?

I think the male to female rate of domestic Violence is 80% to 20% officially.

Domestic abuse with a male perpetrator will escalate into violence at a far higher frequency than a female perpetrator. Hence, more of a problem.

Domestic abuse may be recorded at 40% male victim, but the risk to women is far greater because of the frequency to which the problem escalates to violence and/or death. with female victims.

Domestic ABUSE is much much closer.

I'm not totally sure of the difference.

Abused men are less likely to die in a domestic abuse situation tgan abused women are. Hence more of a problem.

Domestic abuse may be recorded at 40% male victim, but the risk to women is far greater because of the frequency to which the problem escalates to violence and/or death. with female victims.

Yes, i completely agree with this.

But those saying the 40% thing is untrue are wrong.

NorB. I don't have any facts or statistics, I am just saying that it cannot be right for either gender as not every abuse is reported. You cannot get an accurate figure without correct information. Which means a lot of men and women will not be represented in official figures.

So is does Domestic Abuse not cover physical abuse?

Abuse = shouting, harassment, financial control, controlling behaviours.

Violence = Violence.

Men are far more likely to escalate their abusive behaviour to violence.

Women are far more likely to be a victim of this escalation and more at risk of being killed than men are.

I should probably google this myself and not take up thread space.
Sorry.

It's all very complicated isn't it.

Thank you past

Shouting at your partner = DA

Shoving your partner against a wall while shouting = DV.

The problem with some domestic abuse studies is that they do count 'nagging' as verbal abuse, and therefore domestic abuse. If I complain to my boyfriend that he forgot to take the bin out again (I'm not here on the night they have to go out) theoretically can he mark himself down as a victim of domestic abuse?

The national crime statistics are self reported, research shows men exaggerate abuse from their partners, whereas women minimise it.

Contrary to cultural myth - men are more likely to report domestic abuse to the police, than women.

Women are more likely to be acting in self-defence, following ongoing violence from men - research shows that 3/4 women who are violent to their partners are acting in self defence or retaliation against their male partners - who will then self-report as a victim.

It doesn't account for repeat attacks - DV against women tends to be a sustained campaign of many attacks.

It doesn't take the impact of the abuse on the victim into account - women are something like six times more likely to need hospital treatment. Women also die as a result of DV at an alarming rate.

It doesn't take into account that women are more likely to be in fear of their violent partners - who are in general, much larger and stronger than them.

It doesn't include sexual violence - of which approx 98% is committed by men.

We are way off topic. Its gone from were only hetero women depicted as victims to minimising DA and DV.
Men and women are victims to men and women, it can be any victim and any perpetrator. It shouldn't be about who is the most victimised in your personal opinion because none will ever change anyone else's mind if they have a different opinion.
What i hope we can agree on is that DA and DV needs to STOP to every victim regardless of their gender.
That will never happen while we are busy arguing about who is more deserving of help.
I havent watched the advert and I bet most others haven't either. As long as it has phone numbers for BOTH genders to get help then that is the important thing. Yes from what I heard on here it hasnt fully depicted male victims or same sex victims and that if it is true then its a shame. But we shouldn't let it detract from the reason the advert was made, which is not to make us argue but to help people that need help. And non victims can look at that advert and say I have seen those signs in my friends relationship, I can help them, which won't happen if we are in a pissing competition over who's the bigger victim. EVERY victim is the biggest victim because it should not be happening point blank! Admittedly I even got caught up in it and I should have. While people argue victims are hurt even more, perpetrators might even use it to their advantage by saying are you going to cause trouble for them, look, they got trouble enough for who to help for the people in hospital, I never put you in hospital baby so you should sit tight and shut up. We need to stop arguing and throwing up all the well women die, well men get their dicks cut off. We need to say well that person was gaslighting their partner and that is NOT right. Its not the worst but everyone deserves help no matter what gender or what happened.

Rant Over, thank you for letting me get that out. I apologise if you feel that I am shouting at you and also for how long and probably rambling it is.

I will now name change so no one will ever know I posted that.
Again I am sorry

well said daryl

I have to say though, this has been a really insightful and informative discussion about a sensitive topic which hasn't resulted in a bunfight.

Apart from the MRA who came on at 4am to abuse all "modern women", that is Jason.