To think the 'Disrespect NoBody' ad campaign is horribly sexist?

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Not sure if this has already been discussed but has anybody else seen the 'Disrespect NoBody' TV adverts that are supposedly raising awareness for healthy relationships and domestic violence?

Every single scenario in the advert is targeted at men abusing women whether it be physically or emotionally. Y'know because men are never victims?

Sorry, Thomas

Excellent point though, Pretty.

Fuck off fireflies, your logic isn't welcome here

I am not the thread police isabelle, and obviously everyone can post wherever they like, but I would suggest that as there are many threads already running discussing trans issues, perhaps here is not the place to shoehorn them in.

Don't apologise fireflies!

Isabelle - if you are in good faith (and I find the slew of misogynistic insults you attach to your post makes this rather hard to believe), can I ask you who you think actually carries out violence against transwomen? Is it TERFs, or is it in fact that subset of men who are violent and psychopathic - in other words, the same subset of the human race that carries out most of the acts of violence against women? And against gay people? And against racial minorities?

We're not the problem, the perpetrators are.

The violence against transpeople is always brought up in these discussions, in the same way that the lack of services for male victims of domestic violence is: With the belief that this is yet another issue for women to fix.
Last time I checked, it wasn't radical feminists murdering transpeople. But yeah. Lets direct our wrath at feminists because... Oh yes, it's just another extension of woman hating and it's easier than looking for an actual solution.

Saying trans woman are not woman is not prejudice

Biology supports this

pointless statements that seek to silence the opposition without addressing their point.

This, followed by this -

People like you piss me off and so yes I am going to tell you to fuck yourself. You are a blatant extremist regardless of whether your intentions to the cause are positive. I will call you a bigot because that's what most modern feminists are.

...just gave me irony overload

You cover your own ass by saying that any opposition to your stance is bigoted

No I don't. I haven't used the word bigoted or implied it. You need to quote when claiming things like this.

I don't like you I find you deplorable

Yes, you've said as much already

For someone who claims to be a woman, you don't seem to like them very much. Or is it just feminists you have a problem with, aka women who speak up against oppression and male violence?

Spot on slugs.

Oh sorry fireflies didn't see your post

Do you want to finish the second half of that quote ? No ? Oh well I believe I said " that people have sectioned us off in " indicating that I don't agree with the grouping of people and I finished with "equality doesn't give a shit about your victimhood nor anyone elses" which is self explanatory and would quite clearly include me also.

LurcioAgain Where did I once say anything misogynistic ? Please quote me. I am anti-feminist no doubt but that is specific to extremists and extreme view points and does not make me a misogynist. I am trans only by virtue of having been born in the wrong body for all other intents and purposes I am a woman and so being a misogynist would be rather self defeating / stupid / totally against everything else I have written on this thread .

P.S to all who think I'm making this about being trans I never did I made mention of it when I was quite brazenly insulted and I used a statistic to demonstrate my point of statistics not being a good way to define a problems validity or worth.

How outrageous that women in the UK should be worried about the high rates of domestic violence against women in the UK!

What termites, femininazi, blatant extremist, scum they are, right isabelle?

Bullet points haven't made it any better Isabelle

' isabellestreight Thu 03-Mar-16 08:47:58

To OddBoots and The Countess

It's worldwide and can be by anyone not simply in relationships often a family member or simply a stranger who's full of hate'

Then it is hardly comparable to the two women a week figure for women HERE, in our tiny little country, who are killed by male violence, is it, FGS?

Talk about derailing. Never mind that enormous numbers of women are killed in the UK by their partners, transwomen are killed elsewhere in the world for other reasons so you women can just shut up.

And yeah, your priorities on this thread make you look absolutely like a misogynist. Why not just admit you don't think women matter as much as men and have done with it?

Hang on, what happened to "TRANS WOMEN ARE WOMEN? "

"Feminazi", "ad hominum" AND "straw-men"

And there were people calling us clichéd

I am anti-feminist no doubt but that is specific to extremists and extreme view points and does not make me a misogynist.

What the actual fuck? Tell me, do you really believe what you're spouting? Have you bothered to rtft?
Women dare to talk about the fact that we are overwhelming the majority of victims of domestic abuse, and for that we have been trolled by the MRA, called cunts and no end of other insults, put down and denigrated as 'wild middle aged extremists.'

And now you, YOU, who claim to be a woman yourself, come on here and join in with those MRAs, giving out all manner of abuse and insults to women and calling us extremists for daring to say that the killing of women by men is actually A Thing.

But you're NOT misogynistic?

You've used terms such as 'feminazi' (although you claim not to have compared feminists to nazis ), 'extremists,' 'from the gutter of extreme feminism,' 'bigot,' etc.
Can you quote any 'extreme' views from this thread?

FYI - 'domestic violence against women by male perpetrators is in the majority and this is why there should be more funding for female victims' is not an extreme view.

Women are at significantly more risk of being murdered by men than MTTs, especially white middle aged autogynephiles. Most murdered MTTs are PoC androphiles.

OhShutUpThomas when talking about feminists and then saying "you" it refers directly to you the group of modern third wave feminists not just you personally. That second quote of mine you used was a direct response to one of your statements and so was not pointless at all.
Very nice of you to put the two quotes containing the word bigot in the wrong order to convey incongruence typical tactic of the passive agressive .

"someone who claims to be a woman" was "fuck you I don't like you either" too straight forward for you ?

Yes it is just feminists I have a problem with "men do this, men do that, men are bad" instead of "people do this, people do that ,some people are bad" it's that simple difference that makes you go from being a reasonable person to being an inciting problem.

slugs I did come here for a reasonable discussion, read my first post it's not that far back. Then I got insulted by someone who didn't even bother to read what I'd said and I got angry and have been trying to explain to that person ( could have held my temper better I know ) since, while they have continually misunderstood me almost definitely on purpose and you know what you're right I've said my piece to Thomas and shouldn't bother kicking a dead horse.

helmet I never once said anything negative about the cause I'm just fed up of people with their own prejudices jumping onto good humanitarian causes and labeling them something else. Like breast cancer charities and support being entirely about women. My Aunt and cousin both had breast cancer and my father, uncle and male cousins were comparatively left out of the breast cancer rallies and support groups while they needed just as much emotional support as any of the female members of my family. Just like with this cause I'm not downplaying the impact or import of dealing with it but I want people to be open minded enough to see all the facets of a problem not just the ones that fit neatly in the box.

btw I'm gone I've said what I mean, I mean what I said whether you choose to understand or not is up to you. I am completely egalitarian in my outlook if you choose to see me in a different way fine, just know that that's only true while you misunderstand me or in some cases choose to do so.

and in america

So you can't quote the 'extremism' from the 'feminazis' on this thread?

And we're not allowed to say 'men rape,' and 'most violence towards women is by male perpetrators' - even though it's true?
That's not extremism - that's fact.
And if you don't like that fact, then you're directing your anger at the wrong people.

If it's men who are doing it - why come on here and direct your anger and abuse at women?

Oo, oo, i know this one!!