To the think that male only places of worship should be illegal in the uk

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it's ok for men and women to pray seperately if that is what their religion dictates. I see nothing wrong with a male only mosque if there is a female only mosque next door. Such mosques have existed in China for hundreds of years.

www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-35629565

I feel that mosques like this one in soho should not be allowed in the uk. They have banned women completely.

www.itv.com/news/london/2016-02-26/sexism-row-as-mosque-turns-away-women-worshippers/

We've made our bed...

Religious institutions are exempt from non-discrimination laws.

Because it's rude and ignorant Anthony and makes you sound a bit stupid just because you think it's a load of rubbish not everyone does .

Because it's rude and ignorant Anthony and makes you sound a bit stupid just because you think it's a load of rubbish not everyone does.

Atheist here. I agree, it's a bit rude. However, one reason why it's rude is because no one can explain why it's different from sky fairies. it wouldn't be rude if the criticism could be easily dismissed.

x2 I am well aware that not everyone thinks it's a load of rubbish! We are all free to hold (and voice) our own views on every subject under the sun, I fail to see why religion should be any different.

I also find it ignorant of religious people to expect me to tiptoe round their beliefs. The minute someone comes up with proof of God / Allah / Buddha / whatever I will stop referring to people's "gods" as sky fairies.

Haha, loved pastmyduedates first response.

OP YANBU, but all we can do is shrug now. This is the price we pay for diversity, and apparently, so we're told, diversity is priceless.

I wonder who does the cleaning/cooking at the male-only mosque?

OP YANBU, but all we can do is shrug now. This is the price we pay for diversity, and apparently, so we're told, diversity is priceless.

Is this really diversity? our own state religion is guilty of the sexism. Perhaps this case is a little different on account there are private clubs that exclude women, but islam uses the exemptions for religion that we have in place because of the CofE. It irks us more because people more easily criticize the wrongs of another culture.

but islam uses the exemptions for religion that we have in place because of the CofE
The CofE has female bishops now, and so many female female vicars that one of my DC asked me, in all serious, 'Can men be vicars?'

All the CofE so far hasn't had is a female archbishop, but give it a few years.

whose expecting you to tiptoe around there beleifs though Anthony? Most people i meet who have a strong faith dont expect others to agree with them but are willing to share their beleifs if others ask i,m a lapsed catholic and i,m not sure what i beleive if anything ,but i respect the fact that some people have strong beleifs and others dont .

in a mosque the women and men are separate anyway, the men pray and the women sit their and listen on the other side of the wall or upstairs depending on the mosque, if you are on your period you cannot sit with the women you must sit away.
When a loved one is buried women cannot be near the grave when the loved one is being buried, they must be away due to women being "emotional" and only men of Muslim faith can bury the loved one.
Once buried then women can come to the grave and the iman says a prey.

Im from a Muslim family, religion is sexiest which is why i follow nothing.

I think ‘imaginary friends’ is quite respectful - I think PP have been quite restrained. Don’t mention The Flying Teapot!

I would say that Chrisianity is absolutely not sexist.

What?

Christianity has been the most misogynistic force in Western society ever since St Paul "...the head of woman is man".

Although it probably started even earlier with the myth of the virgin birth.

mrsterrypratchet love her she made a very wise comment I was just getting angry looking at this thread title I thought sighs...here we go again muslim attack I suppose? lol

Limer the men do it. volunteers, and sometimes paid workers always men! least is around here.

Well Im another one that says most all religion is 'man made' for men so Im not surprised. Until women wake up and smell the coffee without blindly following Im not sure what can be done.

I'd hate to be rude and I don't think having attended a Muslim school, where I studied the Koran in Arabic, makes me 'ignorant,' but I do think that we need to debate the ideology of all religions. Respectfully of course, but no religion should be given a free pass because the received wisdom makes it untouchable.

There is a level of sexism to be acknowledged that we debate without any issue as far as Judaism and Christianity go; I find it patronising to assume any other religion cannot stand up to robust discussion.

I also think the knee jerk 'here we go again Muslum attack' type response does neither the sayer nor recipient any favours.

I think in 2016 we are capable of a more nuanced and sophisticated debate and I am very impressed by the tone of this thread compared to the cliched rhetoric I've witnessed in the past.

I'm quite surprised there is a mosque in Soho. I would have thought they wouldn't be too keen being surrounded by gay-friendly bars and clubs.

The mosque is in Soho? Seems like the perfect place for something men-only really. You'd be surprised what else is men-only in Soho OP!

Maybe it is a gay mosque? Perhaps that is why they want men only in Soho? Do gay mosques exist/

gay friendly mosque

Perhaps taking the mick is the most effective way of out mosques which don't welcome women. I would be surprised if the mosque in Soho is a gay mosque.

Is there such a thing as a a gay mosque? Certainly Islamic culture does not have a repruation for being gay friendly. Having a mosque that is a safe haven for homosexual Muslims would be fair enough given the level of persecution that gay men suffer in many Islamic countries. A special mosque for gay men could justify being a safe male space just like a women's refugee can bar men.

Is there such a thing as a a gay mosque?

Not many. But there's one in Paris, and gay imams in the States and South Africa:

A homosexual French Muslim imam is spreading a message of religion and tolerance in Europe. In addition to opening a gay-friendly mosque in Paris, he also recently married a lesbian couple in Sweden.

How America’s only openly gay imam reconciles his faith

And there are organisations such as Muslims for Progessive Values
"We endorse the human and civil rights of lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender, queer, and intersex (LGBTQI) individuals. We affirm our commitment to ending discrimination based on sexual orientation and gender identity and we support full equality and inclusion of all individuals, regardless of sexual orientation or gender identity, in society and in the Muslim community."

x2boys you seem to think I should tiptoe around religious people and not say what I think, even on an anonymous Internet forum! I wouldn't be so crass as to refer to sky fairies to someone's face if I knew they were religious. In fact I tend to avoid religious discussion irl. I am confident in my belief that religion is a man made construct and don't need what I think of as religious nutters taking up my time trying to persuade me otherwise.

Okay but not everybody believes the same as you which is why I think even on an Internet forum people should respect we all have different beliefs and not make nasty comments because your beliefs differ.