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To find this poster in a train station wrong?

781 replies

megadude · 15/02/2016 16:43

Hi Mumsnetters,

I'd be interested to read your opinions about this poster. I don't want to say right now what I think about it, as I'd like to know how you'd interpret it.

TIA,
Megadude

To find this poster in a train station wrong?
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TooOldForGlitter · 18/02/2016 13:13

It isn't reminding "people" it's reminding women.

thebiscuitindustry · 18/02/2016 13:19

I haven't read recent posts, but no one has complained that the women white. Or that they are young and not 65 years old and about to have their bag snatched. Or the poster is in English rather than Polish for example. Or someone in a wheelchair. There are other sections of society being ignored.

Alpaca I did make a point yesterday about the various other sections of society that could possibly be targeted, but that even then, it can still happen to anyone.

Itsmine · 18/02/2016 13:21

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thebiscuitindustry · 18/02/2016 13:21

remind people to stay safe

"Stay safe" implies a choice. How can people "stay safe" if someone chooses to attack them? It's already unlikely that people would decide to "stay in danger".

ghostyslovesheep · 18/02/2016 13:26

I'm dying to know how - if I read this poster I wont end up as one of the 10% - please some one educate me

LumpySpacedPrincess · 18/02/2016 13:37

Oh ghosty, ghosty, ghosty, because you'll not just be taking care you'll be taking extra care

D'ya get it now?

ghostyslovesheep · 18/02/2016 13:49

M+S Care!

how special

only no one has answered the point about me often going out ALONE - I go to gigs alone I go to the theatre alone and I go to the cinema alone - I often go clubbing with mates and go home ALONE - I wanted some one to tell me if the solutions was A) stay at home forever or b) make some pretend friends to tag along with Hmm

TooOldForGlitter · 18/02/2016 13:53

Stay at home forever obviously. I'm surprised you had to ask.

LumpySpacedPrincess · 18/02/2016 14:00

I'll have to give up work then so I can stay at home forever, or hire a few mates to tag along with me whenever I want to go out.

Mind you, that doesn't solve problems like Cologne where it was groups of women being attacked...

Hmmm, if only we could think of a way that we could target the perpetrators instead of the victims...

Nah, that's just crazy talk, the way we are handling it right now is just fine.

TooOldForGlitter · 18/02/2016 14:02

Target the perpetrators? Oh stop it! What will you silly feminists think of next?!

limitedperiodonly · 18/02/2016 14:16

Ghosty order your shopping on line but don't open the door to the deliveryman. Shout through the letterbox for him to leave it on the doorstep and watch through the spy hole to make sure he really has left and isn't lying in wait behind the shed for you to come out.

Itsmine · 18/02/2016 14:23

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TooOldForGlitter · 18/02/2016 14:43

Grown women don't need reminding. It's not the same at all as telling your children to be safe. They are children. Not grown adults.

LumpySpacedPrincess · 18/02/2016 15:11

You can obviously do both.

But society doesn't do both, just tells women to adjust their behaviour. That coupled with low reporting rates and miniscule conviction rates send the message that it's a crime you can get way with, which it is.

Itsmine · 18/02/2016 15:27

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ghostyslovesheep · 18/02/2016 15:36

yes

Itsmine can you answer my dilemma?

do you tell your adult children to stay in doors unless they have adult an escort?

limitedperiodonly · 18/02/2016 15:42

It is blaming, and like the poster in the OP it's also not particularly helpful.

When you're sightseeing, you look at things and wander aimlessly and sometimes get lost. What is the point of going on holiday otherwise?

No matter how I dress, when I'm in Spain or Italy I am usually recognised as a stranger because I am paler than most local people.

I live in a very popular tourist place. When I go out I don't dress like a tourist but I wear things that might make me a target, like high heels. That is because I am going to work and my office is smart.

I risk travelling to work in my heels alone. So far I've been lucky.

Itsmine · 18/02/2016 15:42

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limitedperiodonly · 18/02/2016 15:45

Bike, rather than walk. Moving quickly in the street on a bike makes you far more difficult to confront than a pedestrian

This tip was especially funny. With my balance I'd be more in danger of being run down by a bus before I got the chance to get mugged or raped.

limitedperiodonly · 18/02/2016 15:47

Thinking about it though, perhaps I'll hire a tricycle and fix swords to the wheels like Boudicca. That should make brigands keep their distance.

GreenGlassLove · 18/02/2016 15:48

I think it's saying be careful when you've had a few and don't let your mates do stupid things if you see them trying to.

ghostyslovesheep · 18/02/2016 15:49

or wear an electrified suit or armour Limited!

TooOldForGlitter · 18/02/2016 15:49

"2 eldest dc one at uni one at college so, 'grown ups", get reminded to stay safe from me."

You know that is different. You are their mother and it is not comparable at all. I think it is really think it's disingenuous to suggest that it is the same thing. A mother telling her children (children of whatever age) to be careful/stay safe is very very different to a poster dreamt up by a government body/train company/whatever which sets out to warn one particular group of people that they should behave in a certain way because if they don't....

TooOldForGlitter · 18/02/2016 15:53

I feel like i'm repeating myself over and over again.

Women are blamed for rape and assault. In the papers, on-line, by barristers (in the rare event that it goes to Court), by other women. All the time. It isn't unusual, it is commonplace. People are rarely (if ever) blamed for being mugged. Can you honestly not see the difference?

Itsmine · 18/02/2016 16:11

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