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AIBU?

To resent my stepfather for his illness?

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Larkdedah · 04/02/2016 16:12

My stepfather has chronic pulmonary obstructive disorder (CPOD) caused by years and years of chain smoking roll ups.

He moved in with my mother and me when I was 13, married my mother when I was 15. I never liked him right from the start, everybody told me I just resented him for his intrusion into our lives, which was probably some of the truth, but it was also because he's a passive aggressive patronising lazy sexist man-child. Over the years most people have come to realise how awful he is, my late grandmother, who liked everyone, came to hate him for the way he treated my mother.

He's now ill enough that my mother has effectively become his carer. She's 60, just retired, fit and healthy and young in outlook, and she's saddled with a selfish ill man who can hardly let her out of his sight. My DM has had a really shitty few years, my grandparents have both now died but in a past few years she's had to deal with her father deteriorating due to dementia and being a live out carer to her almost blind mother and him. She should now be able to relax, travel and enjoy life, but she can't.

His illness is also coming between my DD and my mum. They adore each other, and have the most lovely relationship. DD's other grandparents live abroad and my dad lives a couple of hours away, she hasn't really got the opportunity to build a close relationship with them so as far as grandparents go my mum is it. It used to be that my mum picked DD up from school one evening a week and they did an activity together, but that's more or less stopped now because my mum can't leave her husband for any length of time in case he has a choking fit. Even if DD goes to my mum's house it's still all about him and his constant coughing fits.

I'm so fucking angry with him for ruining our family like this. He knew smoking endless roll ups was bad for his health, not to mention everyone else's as he did it in the house, now not only is he paying the price but the rest of us are too.

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HumptyDumptyHadaHardTime · 04/02/2016 19:30

Oh Bubbles I'm sure they don't Wine

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catlover97 · 04/02/2016 19:36

Feel for you op. Very easy to make judgments from behind a screen, don't feel bad for how you're (justified in) feeling now. Yes he's ill. Yes he needs care. Does that mitigate the years of care/effort you've previously put in? For what thanks? Guessing f all thanks. And now your mum is being put upon (again) and to put the boot in, your DD's relationship with her is suffering. Difficult and frustrating.
I don't have any answers and wouldn't wish to inflame the situation but wanted to let you know not everyone thinks you're unreasonable and certainly not "vile" (currently dealing with crappy "I'm family so my needs trump yours regardless" situation so sympathise...) Flowers

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Hygge · 04/02/2016 19:42

I don't think you deserved some of these replies OP.

Your frustration and unhappiness were apparent in your first post, as was the fact that there's a backstory to your relationship that's probably not pleasant. I think you deserved a little kindness and empathy yourself.

You were very honest, and I think a lot of people struggle to accept issues like this when it's happening to them. It can be very upsetting to feel that someone you care about is being treated badly, even if they seem happy with their lot. It can also be very difficult to let go of the fact that someone contributed to their own illness when they perhaps could have prevented it. Especially when it has effects on other people and their health as well.

If you can arrange some sort of respite care for your step-father, for your mother's sake, I think that would be the best thing although if you can avoid providing that care yourself I think that might be better for you too. He doesn't sound like a person you need to be around.

And it's normal to want your DD and Mum to have a good relationship that isn't spoilt or affected because of your step-father.

Flowers for you and Flowers for your mum too.

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Princessdebthe1st · 04/02/2016 19:58

Dear OP,
I am sorry you have been given such a hard time. YANBU at all. Being an ill selfish man child doesn't make him less of a selfish man child and doesn't entitle him to sympathy he didn't earn when he was well. For what it's worth my mum has COPD after a lifetime of smoking. I love her dearly and am fucking furious with her that she is ill. As a HCP I know that smoking is addictive and giving up is very hard. However, I also know that she made a choice every time she picked up a cigarette and smoked and she could have made a different one. So yes the only person who is responsible for her COPD is her. She continues to smoke and every time she does that she chooses to die a little sooner and spend less time with her DCs and DGCs. Do I encourage her gently and somewhat persistently to keep trying to give up? Yes. Do I tell how fucking angry I am with her and how much I blame her for shortening the time that my DD will have with her Nana? No I don't and I never will. If I feel all of that within a loving relationship with my Mum you are absolutely not unreasonable in your feelings about your SF given your history.

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fakenamefornow · 04/02/2016 20:00

Yanbu op, he sound like a complete git.

And wtf going on with the posters calling you vile? Ignore them op.

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ToastDemon · 04/02/2016 20:06

I think some people think life should be like a made-for-tv film and anyone admitting to real, messy, complicated emotions gets vilified.

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maybebabybee · 04/02/2016 20:15

Spot on toast.

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lazyarse123 · 04/02/2016 20:16

MistressDeeCee couldn't agree more. There is plenty of help for smoking addicts if they want it, it's so selfish. I don't think op is vile at all, i also had a stepfather who was horrible and wore my mum down, so no sympathy from me.

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Roonerspism · 04/02/2016 20:33

toast absolutely. Spot on

Life is not black and white but a series of greys. Some dying people are wonderful and some are not - just like everyone else. Our emotions don't change because a horrid man is unwell.

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hopelesslydevotedtoGu · 04/02/2016 20:37

Yanbu

Emotions can be complicated.
A nasty person isn't rendered nice by having a horrible illness.
He doesn't appear to show any empathy for how his choices have negatively affected his wife.
He is refusing respite care. It is all about his wants, not her needs.

My father has always treated my mother like a servant, and can be very nasty and selfish. She thinks this is normal. He has a serious illness. This doesn't make him a nice person, just a horrible man with an illness. He actively makes his illness worse through his own choices, and doesn't care that this makes life harder for my mum- this makes him more of a dick.

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Birdsgottafly · 04/02/2016 20:48

""and part of me does think being angry with a person that ill isn't something a nice, kind person would do. ""

It's a perfectly natural response, over time and if we act on that resentment, we protect ourselves.

I worked in end of life care, the patients (mostly men) sometimes would feel sadness that their family (mainly the women) couldn't care for them at home.

Caring impacts on your health, emotional wellbeing and shortens your life.

You look for something to blame and if the sufferer has contributed to their condition, you focus on them.

I was on a course, with a woman, whose 22 year old son had jumped off a balcony into his swimming pool, it left him with multiple life long injuries. SS provided her with 10 hours a week respite, 2.5 were spent on the course that we were on.

She told me that she struggled daily not to resent and even hate him at times, the same applied to his mates.

What I will say, though is that I'm very 'caring' in my personal relationships, it makes me happy, to look after others. My eldest DD causes me stress because she's often told me to not do that.

I've had to tell her to butt out of the choices that I make. I wouldn't put anyone in front of spending time with my GD.

What is his prognosis?

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Sparkletastic · 04/02/2016 20:53

YANBU op - he sounds like a selfish and unpleasant drain on your mum. I can see why you are mourning the life that you all might have had without him.

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StrangeLookingParasite · 04/02/2016 20:58

I don't think you're unreasonable, and I don't at all think you're vile. The drama queens carrying on about it being one of the worst posts they've ever seen apparently don't get out much.

One of the most awful threads I've read in a long while.

Not remotely.
I can completely understand where you're coming from. Being terminally ill doesn't make someone a saint, either, and this guy doesn't sound like he was especially lovely before.

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HermioneWeasley · 04/02/2016 21:03

He sounds awful. It's hard watching someone you love being ground down by their partner - I've seen it several times.

But it is your mother's choice - she chose to stay with him while he was healthy and selfish and now she's choosing to be his carer and reduce her time with her DGD. He's not forcing her.

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Roonerspism · 04/02/2016 21:15

I think the drama queens just probably haven't seen much of real life. Lucky them!

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MissBattleaxe · 04/02/2016 21:19

Roonerspin- This "drama queen" watched a beloved close family member die of COPD. The OP is not unreasonable to dislike her stepfather, but it's a hideous disease. The worst thing I've ever seen. Anyone who has it, no matter what they've done has my sympathy. As do their carers.

Lucky them ???

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Roonerspism · 04/02/2016 21:22

battle I'm not discussing the disease - I have no doubt COPD is anything other than hideous.

What I refer to is the ability of a normal, good, emphatic human being like the OP to feel like she does about her step-father. In spite of the awfulness of his disease.

The OP isn't "vile". She is honest.

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Roonerspism · 04/02/2016 21:23

Empathetic - not emphatic- sorry

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FunintheSun15 · 04/02/2016 21:24

The drama queens carrying on about it being one of the worst posts they've ever seen apparently don't get out much.

This 'drama queen' currently has a FIL dying of COPD and my DM has just been diagnosed with a brain tumour.

It is a horrendous disease.

But hay according to you I'm lucky and don't get out much.

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Roonerspism · 04/02/2016 21:26

fun I'm sorry for your relatives. That is awful.

No one is saying you don't get out much. But you are fortunate to love these relatives. The OP has very conflicting emotions.

That people can't understand that, or find it horrifying, does make me wonder how much of life they have seen in terms of people, yes.

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maybebabybee · 04/02/2016 21:27

I don't think anyone is debating the seriousness of the disease (my granddad has it FWIW), merely pointing out that just because a nasty person has a nasty illness it doesn't a) make them any less nasty and b) suddenly make them worthy of endless compassion.

My ex stepfather was an abusive bully who hit my mother. If he gets some dreadful illness I certainly won't be feeling sorry for him.

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anotherBadAvatar · 04/02/2016 21:28

Since I'm in a similar situation I'll say you're not vile.

If you want to be angry, be fucking angry. No one can tell you how to feel.

I'm fucking angry about my mum's situation, but I've accepted it's her life to decide what she does, but her actions are impacting on her relationship with her DGD.

I don't have to be happy about it. Angry

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spanky2 · 04/02/2016 21:39

I think the posters saying op is vile maybe don't have the experience of dealing with a personality disorder. I get what you're saying op.

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CocktailQueen · 04/02/2016 22:08

I think the posters who are saying op is vile all have relatives who are suffering from COPd or similar, and that is colouring their view.

They are not considering that op has a poor relationship with her stepdad - and with good reason. They need to step out of their own experience and try to think about how the op feels.

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JapaneseSlipper · 05/02/2016 10:59

OP, I'm so sorry about your situation, and about the responses you've received on the first page. Not sure if balance restored later on, can't read any more, too depressing.

I completely understand your feelings. I am sure that you do not WISH this person to be suffering - you just wish they had never appeared in your life in the first place. Am I right? If only your mum had picked a different person, everything would be better.

No answers really, but I hope you can open up to your mum and talk to her, let her know that your daughter is only young once and that she is missing it. I really feel for you.

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