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Teacher quit and walked out

368 replies

Moonlitarsehole · 03/02/2016 16:23

Nc'd to not out myself.

Ds informs me on the way home that his teacher walked out on his last class this afternoon.

Apparently she'd asked on numerous occasions for quiet, and threatened to not help with their coursework. Then said "fuck you lot, I quit", collected her bag and walked out.

I was like Shock ds was vague and said he didn't want me to call the school, as they'd all had to make witness statements.

Anyway, dh is home today and asked ds if he'd been talking too (after I tell him what had happened) and really told ds off for being so disrespectful.

Ds is upstairs writing a letter of apology, not sure what the school's take is on it. Not even sure if she'll get it.

So aibu to think the teacher just lost their shit, which happens to us all?

OP posts:
Dreamonastar · 03/02/2016 18:45

I don't think anybody should apologise! I think the best thing to do is draw a line under it all. The pupils didn't do anything that terrible, it is only considered terrible because of the reaction of the teacher which I doubt was because of the students.

newyear16 · 03/02/2016 18:48

I was once walked out of work have been driven to breaking point by a team member at work, but I was sufficiently in control of myself to say 'fuck this organisation' rather than 'fuck you.' Probably saved myself from an official reprimand.

The teacher was obviously at the end of her tether. I hope the kids have learnt their lesson and that the school uses it as a tool to show that teachers are human too.

Viviennemary · 03/02/2016 18:49

Teacher has obviously had enough. Who would teach in the UK. With every excuse made for bad behaviour and no real punishments a except detention which is a waste of time if it involved putting parents out having to collect their little darlings. I'd advise anyone not to go into teaching. It's a mug's game these days.

GloriaHotcakes · 03/02/2016 18:49

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londonrach · 03/02/2016 18:50

That poor teacher! I hope someone checks shes ok now.

MrsDeVere · 03/02/2016 18:51

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amarmai · 03/02/2016 18:51

i too have left a supply job due to student behaviour. I had retired and found supply work ok ,but not this time.Monday 8 am I found the classroom in complete disarray-caretakers had not tidied it up after the weekend. I pulled desks into order, picked up 10+ pairs of scissors from the floor[ yes they had been throwing them, also books, papers,pens, someone's winter coat and a SCOOTER! Obv i shd have gone home instead of doing all this- but i thought i was able to handle anything=silly me. I got to am recess before i called it quits -informing creepy head that it was not safe for me and the kids. He said 'you can tell me the truth. I know what they are like??? I gawped at him and repeated in a firmer tone,' i am going home as it is not safe for me or the students.' It took me the rest of the day to get over this blow to my self confidence.The classroom teacher was the one in the class on Friday when scissors etc were thrown and a scooter was ridden in the room She left me no work and a class that had the bit between their teeth. Found out a teacher who had retired with me had also gone to that school and wd never return.There are schools that are out of control and it is not safe for the children or the adults.

toffeeboffin · 03/02/2016 18:52

My brother is a teacher. He's 6'2 and fairly big, he was says that a lot of the time it's only his physical size that seems to keep the kids in check.

God help the 5'0, 100 pound woman with a bunch of year ten boys who are all 6' and full of testosterone!

Ditsy4 · 03/02/2016 18:53

Op
Thank you for making your son write a letter. All too often the pupils will not take responsibility and the parents allow / encourage this. I believe that a lot of teachers leave now within the first five years. I've worked in education for over twenty years. The behaviour is definitely getting worse. I have been sworn at, spat at, kicked, dislocated thumb, attempted punch and AT&T. Bite (thwarted by another member of staff.)
However there are also the lovely children that run and hug you because the missed you while you were off sick, the ones that spend time making you a beautiful picture at home, the ones that give you a toy from their Kinder egg. The ones that hold the door open, say please and thank you,try their best every day, help you carry " stuff" downstairs/ to your car or into school from your car, the ones that give you a big smile when things are going wrong they make it worthwhile.

ImperialBlether · 03/02/2016 18:54

I agree, I think if you haven't stood in front of a class of teenagers and just tried to get their attention (never mind teach them something) then it's hard to understand what it's like. And then if you've got managers insisting everyone gets good grades (regardless of the students' abilities) then the stress can be really terrible. For example in the place I worked, we'd have students coming in with 5 grade Cs at GCSE, not all of them in academic subjects, and we were told they should be getting a minimum grade B at A level. When we said they'd never got a grade B in their lives at a lower level, so a B was unrealistic now, we were told we were negative and that observations would be taking place to make sure the quality of our work was good. And that the planning was good. And the marking. Oh and satisfactory isn't satisfactory. Only outstanding will do. And then you go into the room and some idiot who's had three cans of Red Bull before breakfast decides he/she doesn't want to do anything and yet you are meant to control the situation and teach them to achieve a higher grade than they've ever achieved before in a much, much harder subject. It's surprising more teachers don't go crazy, tbh.

LazyDaysAndTuesdays · 03/02/2016 18:54

My DF worked in a primary school in a deprived area in a big city.

He once had a chair and table thrown flung across the room at him by an 11 year old. Amongst many other incidence over the years

When his parents were called to school their words were 'what the fuck do you want me to do about it, I don't care'

Thankfully my DF was good at handling such situations I dread to think what it would have done to the confidence of an QT or someone struggling. Later after retiring from FT he used to get called by the LEA to go into schools and help in certain schools.

Well done OP and DH.

Dreamonastar · 03/02/2016 18:55

Oh, FFS, no, it is not his size and testosterone 'keeping the kids in check' Hmm

bigbuttons · 03/02/2016 18:55

mrsdevere that's probably what their parents say too. That's why they are little shits. Never called on their behaviour and never made accountable for it.

RobotMenu · 03/02/2016 18:56

It's not - there are many issues that are often discussed.

Had the children not been bad, she wouldn't have snapped like that...

Maybe they were just the straw that broke the camel's back... But they were still that straw...

RobotMenu · 03/02/2016 18:57

I should have refreshed before posting! That was @MrsDeVere

Dreamonastar · 03/02/2016 18:59

If somebody seriously snaps like that because of noisy kids, then they really are in the wrong job.

I honestly do sympathise. I have cried in front of kids. It's never been 'them' though. There have been times they tipped me over but it's always been something else.

Every single time, they have been mortified and upset and have frantically apologised and I've ended up comforting them!

pinkcan · 03/02/2016 19:00

Poor, poor teacher. My brother also a secondary teacher has taken loads of abuse from children. Fortunately he was able to find another job and quit facing children the size of adults who would hit him, his colleagues, break their glasses etc.

In Y10, I'd expect the school to read the riot act for this.

IoraRua · 03/02/2016 19:00

I think in difficult classrooms (and I have taught in a few disadvantaged schools), a male voice does have the edge over a female voice. Not sexist but just an observation, they seem to carry better and sound more imposing.

Of course, I know some formidable female teachers too Grin

spanieleyes · 03/02/2016 19:03

My son has been kicked, spat at and bit today.
He teaches in Reception Shock

Want2bSupermum · 03/02/2016 19:03

Kudos to the DH making DS write a letter of apology. DD is 4 and I am attending a school meeting this evening because she threw her shoes across the room. I won't tolerate her lack of respect for teachers. At 4 she is old enough to know you do not throw anything indoors. She wouldn't dare do it at home so I have no idea why she thinks she can do it at school.

I really feel for teachers in the UK and here in the US. They have a thankless task and everyone thinks they know how to do their job. The reality is that these armchair teachers wouldn't probably last more than 5 minutes in a classroom. I am smart enough to know that which is why I do not teach and would never consider it a career option.

MrsGuyOfGisbo · 03/02/2016 19:05

cctv in the classroom and the resultant footage shown to the parents who refuse to believe that their dc are complicit in the poor behaviour in class rooms would be a real eye opener.
I would love to see this! And with sound! Partly because I am a supply teacher, and would love to have some evidence to show that kids are learning in my lessons, since we are universally despised Grin. But also because sometime things happen, like yesterday when a Y11 (15yo) boy walked out of the door, having been removed for being constantly out of his seat, and ignoring instructions, with his parting words 'You can s*k my d*k!', it would be helpful to show the parents - whereas he denied it, and other pupils were too intimidated by him to confirm they had heard.
Having said that, the extreme situations are actually easier to deal with. The real morale-sappers - like in the case the OP cites - is the persistent low-level disruption, where every time a child is reminded of the rules, they protest 'everyone else is doing it' as if that's an excuse (tell the police that when they stop you for driving and talking on your mobile).
Most teenagers ( I know this now I teach every day in challenging schools) are really lovely. And sometime the ones that are a nightmare in y8 become nice people in Y9. Today I had a class where there was a girl I had to have removed nearly every time I say her in y8. Saw her today (Y9) she was helpful, hard-working - and the best bit was at the end she whispered to me 'Miss, don't mean to be rude, but why do you have odd shoes on?' I had grabbed them from the car, they were black courts almost, but not quite, the same Grin. I clocked them, thanked her, grinned and said she had done me a massive favour by discreetly letting me know. And she had. Last year, she would have had the whole class chanting about it.
Teenagers- the best and the worst- you see the whole spectrum in one day.

BarbarianMum · 03/02/2016 19:06

Oh I dunno Dreamon . My uncle was a social worker working with troubled and disaffected 'yoofs' for 30+ years. He is the kindest, gentlest, most patient person I've ever known and he freely admitted that being 6'4 and built like a brick shithouse helped calm things down on many occasions.

LazyDaysAndTuesdays · 03/02/2016 19:06

Oh, FFS, no, it is not his size and testosterone 'keeping the kids in check'

Is that aimed at me Hmm

If you are trying to be sarcastic don't bother. He also over the years had death threats which were taken very seriously by police and were credible threats. Was that 'his testosterone keeping them in check as well'

miraclebabyplease · 03/02/2016 19:06

My primary school is terrible for behaviour / attitude. I have been sworn at and hurt repeatedly. A supply teacher once described it as Beruit. It takes a lot of control but learning does happen. However, there could be more if some individuals coulds have stronger consequences.

I feel for this woman. Children can push you to your limits as you are so aware how little power you have.

That said, I love my job.

miraclebabyplease · 03/02/2016 19:07
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