Page 7 | To agree with this headteacher regarding wearing pyjamas as outdoor wear?

PeanutBusterToby · 27/01/2016 04:53

To drop off kids at school while your still wearing pj's is ridiculous!!
What's even more ridiculous is when these mums have a face full of fresh make-up and hair styled perfectly as though ready for an evening of merriment. I am not quite sure what message they are sending to their children although if my mum had acted like this I would have been mortified!!

mathanxiety · 27/01/2016 05:46

It's a fashion. Hence the makeup.

The HT is misinterpreting it.

sashh · 27/01/2016 05:54

I always find the pyjama threads interesting. At the 6 schools my children attended between them I have never once seen a parent in pyjamas. Does this really happen?

Where I liove you can play a kind of Bingo - everytime you go out you see either

a) a woman in pyjamas

or

b) a man on a bike too small for home with a fag in his mouth and a can in his hand (50% chance the can is alcohol)

This is a difficult one, yes for some it is a fashion thing, but for others it isn't a choice. One friend of mine has to have help from her daughter to dress, her daughter went through a phase of helping slowly, so by the time friend was up it was time to leave for school - choice of going in PJs and her child being on time or child being late and no guarantees of how late.

Basically if the child is in school, clean and fed (or clean and at breakfast club) and ready to learn then does it really matter?

Parents could also be on shift work, if you have finished work at 2am, got home for 3am and had a couple of hours sleep and you are going back to bed later getting dressed makes no sence.

PeanutBusterToby · 27/01/2016 06:05

I think it does matter though. How long does it take to throw a pair of leggings on and a t-shirt? A child can see their parent putting effort into going out with friends for evening bit not for them when being taken to school and then getting laughed at in class. Please don't tell me this doesn't happen, it does and for a child the worse thing to be laughed at is when they are laughing at your mum!! As for it being a fashion statement that's complete rubbish!! It's Lazy!! Wearing pj's and a coat over the top half is not fashion!

HermioneJeanGranger · 27/01/2016 06:27

I think it's grim. The only time I've done it is when I pulled my back and ended up in A&E at 2am, and was in too much pain to stand up straight, let alone get dressed.

It takes two seconds to throw on a pair of jeans and a hoody. PJ bottoms off, jeans on, hoody over your PJ top and off you go. And yes, I've done all sorts of shifts, I'd never take kids to school or go shopping in my pyjamas. Nobody is saying you have to have a full shower, wash your hair and put on make-up to leave the house, but why go out and subject everyone to your smelly bed wear? People sweat in bed, and lie in their sweat for hours. Why would you not at least chuck some fresh clothes on before going out?

nooka · 27/01/2016 06:27

I'm amazed to think that this headteacher thinks her remit extends to what parents wear to take their children to school. Or that writing to parents is going to do anything positive at all. Sometimes teachers seem to struggle to understand that they can't treat adults like their pupils - we have lots of teachers in my family and sometimes they don't switch off, perhaps that's this HTs issue too?

Fair enough to state appropriate wear for a school play, assuming that they will follow through and turn parents away, but they have no authority beyond the school gate.

My children have occasionally gone to school in pjs. They still get good grades. I don't recall ever going to school in my nightclothes, but I've picked them up in decorating gear when I was painting my house. I'd have been pretty annoyed to be told off for it!

PeanutBusterToby · 27/01/2016 06:31

Nooka: please explain why you would send your children to school in their pyjamas.

AppleSetsSail · 27/01/2016 06:36

Nooka: please explain why you would send your children to school in their pyjamas.

Yes, why?

HermioneJeanGranger · 27/01/2016 06:38

My children have occasionally gone to school in pjs.

BadLad · 27/01/2016 06:40

Good grief! Now I have heard it all. I saw the other thread title but didn't click on it. I thought it was a joke

And to think that this post was written before someone added:

My children have occasionally gone to school in pjs.

PeanutBusterToby · 27/01/2016 06:49

HermioneJeanGranger: But why would you send your children to school in their pyjamas? I cannot think of one reason to subjecting my child to this!!
Anyone...what would the reason for this be?

bigbuttons · 27/01/2016 06:57

There is no excuse for wearing pjs on the school run.
I've been up all night with the baby blah blah.
Just bloody well wet dressed.It takes seconds.

2rebecca · 27/01/2016 07:04

I think decorating gear is completely different to night clothes. Nightclothes are flimsy garments designed to be worn for sleeping. You can easily and cheaply buy warmer thicker pull on trousers/ joggning bottoms and put on a jumper or sweatshirt. It is winter after all. I really don't get the stay in your pyjamas half the day brigade. OK on the rare occasion you feel really ill or if you are having chemo but it sounds from this headmistresses post as though this was a common thing at her school amongst fit women. Some women do seem to think it's comfy pyjamas or bras and tight clothing and not have a casual wardrobe.

DilysPrice · 27/01/2016 07:15

It's lovely that MN's instinct is to be so supportive of people in really difficult circumstances.

But it's statistically implausible that this head's school is absolutely full of parents with chronic pain conditions, nights shifts, newborn triplets, and MH problems, whilst my DCs' schools in the middle of council estates with a very deprived intake have no parents whose life circumstances don't allow them to get dressed. (DH does the morning run and says he's seen a literal handful in ten years) The vast majority of the head's audience will be doing it from choice.

rebellove · 27/01/2016 07:22

We're increasingly living in an age where there is an attitude of 'don't give a shit' sadly.

Jw35 · 27/01/2016 07:33

Wears my pyjamas outside the house is slobby and slovenly. It's embarrassing for your kids, it's shows a lack of respect for the school, others and yourself. In my area I've only seen people from the traveller community doing this. I think it's disgusting.

Jw35 · 27/01/2016 07:35

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Kryptonite · 27/01/2016 07:44

My children have occasionally gone to school in pjs.

Seriously?! Don't they have a uniform?!
You wouldn't get away with that at a usual school!
Plus, why on earth would you single your child out for ridicule like that?

NNalreadyinuse · 27/01/2016 07:45

I think it would be better to judge the parent's attitude and support for education by whether their dc go to school everyday, on time and with the right equipment. By whether the dc are properly fed and clothed and ready for the school day and by what the parent actually says to you, the teacher, at parents evening. The fact that they have turned up to school events and meetings with staff, indicates support for education and respect for the staff.

As I said up thread, wearing pjs would say nothing to me beyond wanting to be comfy. We do all judge people by their appearance, but really this is wrong and we should make a conscious effort not to.

I really dont think it means people are dirty and haven't washed. I had a rare day on Sunday when I didn't have to go out. I got up, had a bath, put clean comfies on and wore them all day. I think most people who slept in pjs would change into clean ones if they intended to wear them all day.

Nataleejah · 27/01/2016 07:53

But Ninja, their children HAVE to be in uniform (thank goodness) - I'm not saying you need to be suited and booted but what message do you think it sends to a child about school if their parent can't be bothered to dress to go there.
Parents had their share of wearing a stupid uniform when they themselves were at school.

2rebecca · 27/01/2016 07:54

People have had depression, hard luck stories etc for years. Did our grandmothers and parents wander round outside in their pyjamas at 9am (hardly the crack of dawn)? No they didn't. There wasn't as much "poor me" stuff either. They got up got dressed and got on with life.

accendo · 27/01/2016 07:58

I'm in Australia and have never seen anyone doing the school run in pj's and cerainly not out shopping in them. If I ever happen to see parents turning up to plays and school interviews in pj's, I'd wonder if I'd wandered into an episode of housos.

Nataleejah · 27/01/2016 08:04

People have had depression, hard luck stories etc for years. Did our grandmothers and parents wander round outside in their pyjamas at 9am (hardly the crack of dawn)? No they didn't. There wasn't as much "poor me" stuff either. They got up got dressed and got on with life.
My grandmother, when she retired -- she had quite a few dressing gowns. Some for home, others for going out

KoalaDownUnder · 27/01/2016 08:06

NN, I guess some of us don't think that turning up for parents' night in pyjamas does indicate 'respect for the staff'.

Isn't part of a parent's job to teach children about appropriate clothing, and what it signals to the outside world?

(And no, I've never seen it in Australia, accendo, either. It's s new one on me.)

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