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To think that the 'Calais Camp' situation needs to be resolved ASAP!

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Kreacherelf · 24/01/2016 14:20

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3413566/Port-Calais-closed-migrants-storm-harbour-make-Spirit-Britain-ferry-desperate-bid-reach-UK.html

This is just getting ridiculous now. France need to take this problem to the EU and ask for help dealing with it immediately. It has gone on for too long and needs to stop.

I don't know what the answer is. I think the UK should take anyone under 18, and their family members. Other than that, everyone else should have to apply for asylum in France or risk arrest. Not a perfect solution, but the only one I have.

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wandringminds · 25/01/2016 16:58

I'm extremely glad that DC had more sense that Angela Merkel. I don't agree with him about a lot of things but I'm very glad he hasn't opened the floodgates to this country

It amazes me that the German people (who have always struck me as being really on the ball) allowed that idiot Angela Merkel to make such a reckless decision, which will surely affect the lives of all Germans.

Why? Just why?
The woman is a disgrace. Hmm

emilybohemia · 25/01/2016 17:03

All, eh? I think you are describing people debating something.

Wandring, I think she's ace, not a disgrace.

SirChenjin · 25/01/2016 17:06

Merkel is the German Tony Blair - and in 10/15 years time Germany will be experiencing the consequences of uncontrolled mass immigration. I suspect it will not be pretty.

wandringminds · 25/01/2016 17:09

My husband works with the refugee children aged 15 to 18 here in Sweden. l remember my husband waving to a guy when we were out in the Town and I asked if that was someone he worked with, he replied 'No that is one of the refugee boys' I was shocked. He was a grown man with a receding hairline. I guessed that he was about 30. My husband said they thought he was around 23/24. They do try to make checks but there is no real way of knowing how old they claim to be without papers. In our small village the there so under age refugees that the local primary (there is one primary and one senior school) cannot cope with the numbers so from year 5 the last two years have to go the senior school. So in a couple of years my children will have to move the same school with unchecked grown men posing as teenagers. Had I have known this I am not sure I would have moved over here.

The situation here is crazy. Adverts on papers to take refugee children into family homes. People are being paid to take them in without the background checks you would need to foster a child. I can think of two families where they re-homed two of the boys due to mental health issues that were not flagged before hand. In order to do the right thing the situation has become a ticking bomb.

That is very interesting to read KC.

So basically, your own children's education is being compromised because schools can no longer cope with the extra numbers.
Once people take off the Jeremy Cobyn Rose Tinted Glasses, they get to see the reality of how taking in large numbers of people can impact negatively and strain the services of a country.

clam · 25/01/2016 17:09

What could the German people have done about it, in all honesty? She stood up and just said, "Come on over here," and opened the floodgates. She won't be experiencing life on the front line though. Don't suppose she was trying to get through Cologne station unaccompanied on NYE, after all.

SirChenjin · 25/01/2016 17:12

clam - there was nothing they could have done sadly, and they will pay the price in years to come. Politicians are very good at making decisions that won't affect them on behalf of people who will be.

OneWingWonder · 25/01/2016 17:15

wandringminds

To be fair to Merkel, the title of 'Worst German Chancellor of All Time' has already been sewn up pretty well, but she's putting in a bloody good effort to win second prize!

wandringminds · 25/01/2016 17:19

Angela Merkel has committed a crime against Germany.

She has gambled (recklessly) with the stability of a country and people she was elected to care and look out for.
She should, first and foremost, have been looking out for the interests of her own citizens.
As far as I'm concerned she's failed to do the job the people employed her to do.

If I were German I would be seriously pissed off with her. Hmm

VertigoNun · 25/01/2016 17:20

I think AM was trying to make up for WW2, I think she has now.

VertigoNun · 25/01/2016 17:21

Sadly German Women are paying the price.

BeckerLleytonNever · 25/01/2016 17:21

I'm very glad he (prime minister)hasn't opened the floodgates to this country

no, but he doesn't do anything to stop the Calais thuggy ones ILLEGALLY entering tthis country. there must be hundreds illegally already in this country who have smuggled themselves in.

HelenaDove · 25/01/2016 17:35

" Not everyone is motivated by money."

People in the uk on zero hours contracts and/or other low income cant afford not to be.

Those in middle class professions can afford to take time off to volunteer.

emilybohemia · 25/01/2016 17:45

Helena, I was referring to someone that said my other half is paid by an organisation working with refugees and simply stating he did it for free, meaning that he did it to help, not for profit. He is not a middle class professional and none of his friends are that went with him. There seems to be a misconception that everything we do should be for personal gain. Everyone that works expect and often need to be paid. That is a different matter.

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PottyLorryLuck · 25/01/2016 20:37

Angels merkel is a disgrace. It's my understanding though that in two years the million plus migrants there will receive German passports and therefore be free to come to the UK or any other EU country.

Time to exit the EU I'd say. Merkel is a traitor to Europe for the damage she's done.

Sn0tnose · 25/01/2016 21:37

Becker "he doesn't do anything to stop the Calais thuggy ones entering this country"

I made this point on a thread a couple of days ago, but there's not much more that could physically be done to prevent it than is already being done. The control is in Calais and as many lorries are searched as physically possible to search. It's just impossible to 100% close a border, It doesn't matter what country you're in and whether it's landlocked or an island.

WidowWadman · 25/01/2016 21:41

Pottyporry - it takes much longer than two years to qualify for citizenship in Germany. Refugee status is not citizenship.

TwistedReach · 25/01/2016 22:01

Becker "he doesn't do anything to stop the Calais thuggy ones entering this country"

What a horrible, dehumanising comment.

MaisyMooMoo · 25/01/2016 22:11

I never realised how many immigrants/asylum seekers Sweden had taken in until I read a few comments on this thread and now this....

www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-35406072

It really is becoming quite scary now in terms of personal safety.

WillBeatJanuaryBlues · 25/01/2016 22:26

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januarybrown1998 · 25/01/2016 23:10

maisie apologies if you've seen this, I've just posted it on another thread but it is a rare public comment about what's happening in Sweden.

There's a reason you haven't been aware of their problems recently.Sad

SnowBells · 26/01/2016 00:03

Only read part-way through. But OMG, just reading the posts of zzzzz makes me mad Angry. She must be living in utopia land.

Ever heard of Taharrush Gamea? Yep, there's actually an Arabic term for mass sexual molestation of women in public. Guess why?

So you want to take all the refugees on this planet in? You know, there are countries in Africa worse off than Syria, right? Wanna take EVERYONE in? Everyone should be equal, right zzzzz? Or have you just fallen for what's portrayed in the media and think that the refugees in Calais have it worse than the people in some war-torn African nations?

The only real solution to this problem is ISIS being defeated, so that at least the Syrians can go back home. This cannot be done without ground troops, etc. - and in the sheer absence of Iran, it would be on the developed world to sort this out. Oh, and guess what... peace-loving people like zzzzz would probably be against that, too!

ginghamcricketbox · 26/01/2016 00:06

Meanwhile in Sweden
www.thelocal.se/20160125/swed...ad-in-stabbing