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AIBU?

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...about teenage DS's day off school or is ExH?

115 replies

EllenJanethickerknickers · 15/01/2016 21:32

My DS1 is 18, a straight A sixth former (hopefully) because he is self motivated and hard working. He spends EOW Thurs after school to Sun evening with exH and his new wife with his brothers, 16 and 13 and new wife's DS, 12.

Today he missed school for the first time in years, he's hardly ever off sick and we don't do term time holidays. He arranged to go up to London with a friend to see a band. This is very new territory for him, he is pretty much a stay at home geeky lad except for Explorer Scout events and has never been to a festival etc.

He told me about this trip before Christmas, but as it was on a weekend he's at his dad's I said he'd have to discuss it with him. I reminded him this week to make sure he or his dad informed school he'd be away. Otherwise, I was quite happy for him to go. I didn't think one day was a big deal and thought the experience would be good for his social development. The friend he's going with us also very hard working and they'd organised a travelodge near the venue to stay in tonight. (Very rock and roll! Grin )

I've received an email from his dad who is very unhappy that he has skipped school, and equally unhappy that I haven't informed him about it and appear to approve. Apparently DS1 only told him last week about the trip and had said he was leaving after school. ExH found out this morning it was a whole day trip and that I already knew about it.

Trouble is we parent differently. I trust my DS1 pretty much to do the right thing. He is a well behaved lad apart from normal teenage sarcasm and is after all, an adult. ExH has become a very strict parent since he left us, maybe under the influence of his new wife and her much younger DS. Until recently DS1 has a 10 o'clock bedtime at his dad's and isn't allowed to have friends back unless exH is there etc.

I first met exH when we were 18 and we both had much more freedom than DS1 does. I had a Mini age 18 and drove groups of friends all over the place. We went to the pub every Friday and Saturday evening, both lost our virginity at 17 (not to each other!) and yet we both managed to go to university in the 1980s and get good jobs. In fact, I was much more of a goody goody than exH, who used to drink to excess regularly. I think he's forgotten how old DS1 is and still sees him as the 13 yo he was when he left.

So, AIBU not to discourage DS1 to let his hair down for one day? Is exH BU to expect me to inform him of DS1's plans, when DS1 as an adult, is perfectly capable of informing him, himself? Or do we both just have to accept that we have different parenting styles and standards?

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BertrandRussell · 16/01/2016 07:43

Well, he didn't actually play truant- I said he wasn't well.

wannabestressfree · 16/01/2016 08:02

My son did the same thing betrand :)

TheFairyCaravan · 16/01/2016 08:04

I let DS2 do it this time last year when he was doing A levels. It didn't make any difference to his grades. Since he's been at uni he's missed 2 lectures to attend the fracture clinic as he broke his arm playing football. He's not missed one day of placement.

One day off isnt going to turn a hardworking, self motivated student into some sort of lazy arsed slacker.

EllenJanethickerknickers · 16/01/2016 09:06

Morning, and thanks for the majority of you who think IANBU.

I got a text from him at midnight, 'Just to let you know I'm still alive!' Grin

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Mistigri · 16/01/2016 09:10

The only thing that you're being unreasonable about is that idea that you or your ex should have ANY say in this.

He's an adult! An actual, legal, competent adult who is plainly sensible and hardworking and capable of making decisions for himself.

LagunaBubbles · 16/01/2016 09:14
Grin
SwearySwearyQuiteContrary · 16/01/2016 10:07

"DS is an adult; the decision is his." And repeat for as long as it takes your XH to shut up. Is your XH finding it hard to adjust to the idea that DS can no longer be made to conform to his wishes?

Gobbolino6 · 16/01/2016 10:12

You say you trust your son to do the right thing, yet you know he procrastinated on telling his dad and then lied to him. That said, he's 18 and can do what he likes.

BoneyBackJefferson · 16/01/2016 10:13

The only thing that you're being unreasonable about is that idea that you or your ex should have ANY say in this.

this ^ from Mistigri.

Aren't teachers precious, the odd A-level lesson (not missed - just you weren't there) doesn't matter a bit.

As long as the pupil/student is prepared to catch up on what they missed I couldn't give a monkeys what they do. I find that its when the parents and pupils/students demand that they have the lesson 1-2-1, taking up time that teachers don't have spare, that teachers get pissed off.

no73 · 16/01/2016 10:16

I'm still gobsmacked at the 10pm bedtime at age 18!! One day is not going to hurt and in fact is good prep for Uni when he will have loads of self study to do. His missed a day and has to learn in his own time what he should have learnt at school....good prep for Uni in my eyes Grin

I don't blame your DS for lying to his dad one bit, he sounds like a complete arse who is ruining his relationship with his adult son.

buffymum · 16/01/2016 10:20

Gobsmacked at some attitudes towards an 18 year old missing a days school . And a studious one at that .

GoblinLittleOwl · 16/01/2016 10:54

I am surprised that you think it is all right for your son to miss a day's schooling when he is only months away from his A levels. Your ex husband is the more sensible parent; whatever you say I think you are competing to be 'cool'.

tiggytape · 16/01/2016 11:15

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Scholes34 · 16/01/2016 12:25

Year 13s will be having days off school now and again anyway to go to university open days in the coming term. They have a different approach to their work than those in secondary and primary school as it's their responsibility to catch up on the work missed. The missed schooling really isn't a big deal in these circumstances for this pupil.

As for upsetting the dad and him not contributing to his uni expenses, the DS will be assessed on the household income of the parent he lives with, so any money forthcoming from th exH is a bonus.

EvilTwins · 16/01/2016 12:32

Those of you peddling the "he's 18, he can do what he wants" attitude have obviously never seen the potentially damaging effects that can have on some kids that age. IMO, if they're still in full time school, they're still kids.

I would be very interested to see how this thread might have gone if the OP was livid with her ex because he'd let the DS skive school for a gig and she'd be upset about being lied to.

EvilTwins · 16/01/2016 12:33

Oh and given that the UCAS deadline was yesterday, yr 13s won't be having days off for open days. Bit late for that.

EvilTwins · 16/01/2016 12:36

As for upsetting the dad and him not contributing to his uni expenses, the DS will be assessed on the household income of the parent he lives with, so any money forthcoming from th exH is a bonus.

Not any more - details here

TitsWineAndTyrion · 16/01/2016 12:55

I'd be worried that your DS thinks this kind of thing is acceptable once he's in employment. I'm with your husband. YABU.

Except that in employment, he would have been able to arrange a holiday/annual leave to make time for this gig. You can't do that at school.
Sounds like he is a generally sensible young man who works hard at his studies. There's not a chance in hell that missing one day will damage that.
He shouldn't have lied to his dad though, I would consider speaking to him about that.

Devilishpyjamas · 16/01/2016 13:08

He's 18 so tell your ex to discuss it with your DS directly.

He sounds as if he's doing very well, and as an adult it's up to him to deal with any fall out with school.

Rosieposy4 · 16/01/2016 13:09

They really are not adults, either in emotional maturity, abilty to fend totally for themselves, and rarely to finance it either if 18 and still at school.
It is the usual mumsnet madness, any bad behaviour is excused until 16 on the grounds they are only children, then 18 year olds are "adults" and should be unfettered by guidance from their parents Hmm
It is the whole idea that it is fine to bunk off commitments (work/school/study/social), it isn't and having had no problem with doing it once, then the idea becomes more attractive on a second occasion.

BoneyBackJefferson · 16/01/2016 13:12

TitsWineAndTyrion
Except that in employment, he would have been able to arrange a holiday/annual leave to make time for this gig.

But not everyone in employment does that, Some people think it acceptable to take "sick days" before and after the event.

BertrandRussell · 16/01/2016 13:13

Do people really just stop parenting when they reach 18??????

EvilTwins · 16/01/2016 13:22

Yes, Bertram. And some stop at 16.

I have taught in a school with a 6th form for many years, and plenty of parents step away entirely once their DC get past GCSEs. They don't bother with parents evening, say there's "nothing they can do" if students are late/missing from school, charge them "board", meaning that they have to get part time jobs, refuse to pay for school trips and equipment, and openly condone days off for all sorts of things like shopping trips, work shifts and gigs.

Devilishpyjamas · 16/01/2016 13:27

Well my parents very much treated me as an adult at 18. There were house rules which I had to abide by if I expected to live there rent free but decisions were mine. I don't expect to be dictating to my kids at 18. Mind you i have no intention of helicoptering during 6th form & have already told ds2 (who has a tendency to need a huge boot up the arse to do school work that he'll need to think carefully about A levels as they can't be dragged/nagged through).

OP's sounds sensible in terms of school work. Decisions are his providing he deals with the consequences.

Scholes34 · 16/01/2016 15:04

EvilTwins - are you saying that students will now be assessed on the income of both parents even if they're not living together? Currently, it's just the household income of who the student lives with. Where does it say in the link that this has changed?

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