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AIBU?

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...about teenage DS's day off school or is ExH?

115 replies

EllenJanethickerknickers · 15/01/2016 21:32

My DS1 is 18, a straight A sixth former (hopefully) because he is self motivated and hard working. He spends EOW Thurs after school to Sun evening with exH and his new wife with his brothers, 16 and 13 and new wife's DS, 12.

Today he missed school for the first time in years, he's hardly ever off sick and we don't do term time holidays. He arranged to go up to London with a friend to see a band. This is very new territory for him, he is pretty much a stay at home geeky lad except for Explorer Scout events and has never been to a festival etc.

He told me about this trip before Christmas, but as it was on a weekend he's at his dad's I said he'd have to discuss it with him. I reminded him this week to make sure he or his dad informed school he'd be away. Otherwise, I was quite happy for him to go. I didn't think one day was a big deal and thought the experience would be good for his social development. The friend he's going with us also very hard working and they'd organised a travelodge near the venue to stay in tonight. (Very rock and roll! Grin )

I've received an email from his dad who is very unhappy that he has skipped school, and equally unhappy that I haven't informed him about it and appear to approve. Apparently DS1 only told him last week about the trip and had said he was leaving after school. ExH found out this morning it was a whole day trip and that I already knew about it.

Trouble is we parent differently. I trust my DS1 pretty much to do the right thing. He is a well behaved lad apart from normal teenage sarcasm and is after all, an adult. ExH has become a very strict parent since he left us, maybe under the influence of his new wife and her much younger DS. Until recently DS1 has a 10 o'clock bedtime at his dad's and isn't allowed to have friends back unless exH is there etc.

I first met exH when we were 18 and we both had much more freedom than DS1 does. I had a Mini age 18 and drove groups of friends all over the place. We went to the pub every Friday and Saturday evening, both lost our virginity at 17 (not to each other!) and yet we both managed to go to university in the 1980s and get good jobs. In fact, I was much more of a goody goody than exH, who used to drink to excess regularly. I think he's forgotten how old DS1 is and still sees him as the 13 yo he was when he left.

So, AIBU not to discourage DS1 to let his hair down for one day? Is exH BU to expect me to inform him of DS1's plans, when DS1 as an adult, is perfectly capable of informing him, himself? Or do we both just have to accept that we have different parenting styles and standards?

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BertrandRussell · 15/01/2016 22:23

You know if all the people on mumsnet who got double firsts from Oxbridge were laid end to end............

annielouise · 15/01/2016 22:25

OP has your DS taken any time off for university visits? Our school allows 3 days, which we haven't had to take thankfully. There are kids missing school for a variety of reasons not just sickness or holiday - debating competitions, language exchanges, orchestra practice etc As long as he's not missing too much, which it doesn't sound like at all, don't let the worrywarts bother you.

jay55 · 15/01/2016 22:27

Your son was wrong to lie to his dad.
How would you feel if it was you he'd left it last minute to tell and then lied about the plan?

EvilTwins · 15/01/2016 22:28

Oh dear, EvilTwins. What if his attendance is otherwise perfect?

I haven't had a day off for two years either. Might miss a day when I just have 6th form teaching then and pop off to see a band. Apparently the odd A Level lesson missed here and there doesn't make much difference.

RB68 · 15/01/2016 22:30

You're response is "He is 18" "He is a straight A student" " I trust him" then leave him to it - its not now your responsibility to snitch him out to his Dad, nor should his Dad be speaking to you.

abbsismyhero · 15/01/2016 22:30

im guessing the reason he didn't tell his dad is because he knew how he would react funny how his dad blames you i would be having a short word with him about this telling him flat you told ds to tell him and if it were my ex husband i would be pointing out he was driving his son away

annielouise · 15/01/2016 22:30

I'd tell his dad your DS is 18 now and an adult and you're not the go between in their relationship but it's down to him now between him and his DS. You don't need to be facilitating anything. Your son, rightly or wrongly, decided to go to see this band. He made that decision as an adult. He didn't tell his dad as he didn't want the aggro. What has that got to do with you? Nothing.

Herrerarerra · 15/01/2016 22:31

All I'll say is that I hope he has a wonderful time!

Canyouforgiveher · 15/01/2016 22:31

I'd be worried that your DS thinks this kind of thing is acceptable once he's in employment. I'm with your husband. YABU.]

But he isn't in employment. He doesn't get paid. his responsibility is to himself and his education - not to an employer who pays him money for his time. it is radically different. And it is hard enough to be a student without being told you must be a pretend little worker bee too. I thought studenthood was when you were all rebellious and thinking about the meaning of life-not what you owe the man. He'll have 40 plus years ahead of him as a worker.

OP, first, your son is 18 so your ex should take it up with him not you. Parenting styles are nothing now-you each have a relationship with your son and it is each of your responsibilties to manage that relationship yourselves.

Second, yes I might say something to my 19 year old (I have one in uni) who mitched off a lot or was irresponsible or didn't work. But an otherwise hard-working adult who takes a day to go to a concert? Your ex needs to think about his overall relationship with his son- is it really worth getting annoyed with him about this?

EllenJanethickerknickers · 15/01/2016 22:32

Three Days Grace is the band. I've never heard of them.

I'm with the poster who said, 'you should be saying you should be in school while thinking, good on you!' (paraphrasing) First time ever he's taken this sort of risk, travelling to London on a coach with just a friend, navigating the Underground, going to a gig, staying in a hotel. If it wasn't for the day off school I'd be really proud of him.

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Crispbutty · 15/01/2016 22:35

If he was in a job he would have taken the day off.. And I very much doubt an 18yo in full time employment would commit to EOW with a parent. My parents were not divorced and when I was 18 they probably didn't see me at all from fri to Sunday any weekend, or most nights of the week. Yanbu. His dad is, and needs to realise his son is not a child anymore

coffeeisnectar · 15/01/2016 22:35

Yanbu. Your ds is on target for outstanding results, has been a diligent student and quite clearly hasn't been a nightmare teenager. I hope he's had a brilliant night out and enjoyed his down time.

Your ex needs to understand his child is now an adult and its down to him to make choices. Guide him by all means but start laying down the law and in a couple of years his wife will be posting on the step parents board saying DSS never sees us any more, he only wants to spend holidays with his mum and dh is Really upset. We gave him money for uni and he won't even visit anymore.

annielouise · 15/01/2016 22:35

He sounds very conscientious and on top of things and I'm sure he'll catch up on what he's missed when back. It won't affect anything.

wannabestressfree · 15/01/2016 22:35

He needs to talk to his dad. I would explain to him the problems it has caused you and why he need to address it as an adult.
Missing a day is nothing..... There is more to life and I am a teacher and ds1 the same age.
We have similar problems post divorce and the rutting stag thing..... Its exh weekend and two of my three are here.

Duckdeamon · 15/01/2016 22:36

As you say OP it was up to your DS to deal with school and to tell his dad (or not) and deal with the consequences of his choices.

Ex is being unreasonable to have a go at you for not telling him (since DS is clearly more than old enough to do so) / for condoning the day off.

Does your DS really fear that financial help for university from his dad is contingent upon spending EOW at their place and "not rocking the boat"? That's sad.

cdtaylornats · 15/01/2016 22:36

"I haven't had a day off for two years either. Might miss a day when I just have 6th form teaching then and pop off to see a band. Apparently the odd A Level lesson missed here and there doesn't make much difference."

Aren't teachers precious, the odd A-level lesson (not missed - just you weren't there) doesn't matter a bit. Anyone in a job where their lack of presence for a day causes disaster should be fired at the first opportunity. What do you think would happen if you were sick or dead?

EllenJanethickerknickers · 15/01/2016 22:37

'I'm not a go between in your relationship with DS' was exactly what I put in my reply to his dad. I do think exH is going to push DS1 away, but I don't think it's my place to tell him that, or that he'd listen to me. DS1 has had a tricky relationship with him ever since his dad left, but I have tried to ensure I don't jeopardise that as (while I'd love exH to be hurt) it's not good for DS1.

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IguanaTail · 15/01/2016 22:38

Your ex seems to feel it was a conspiracy. You left it with your son to discuss with him. So it's between them.

kali110 · 15/01/2016 22:40

I don't blame your son actually. Sounds like he doesn't have as good a relationship with him as he does with you.
I'm not one for missing lessons, but once in a while ( long as it's not during exams) i wouldn't think it's s huge problem either.
I've certainly used my holiday days from work to go to gigs!
None of my bands play at the weekends! ( plus i used to work weekends amyway so wouldn't make much difference anyway).

Taylor22 · 15/01/2016 22:40

I think you're absolutely right OP. You can have the most amazing exam results ever. But what are they worth unless you live? How will they help unless he can function socially?
His Dad is being ridiculous. Neither you or your DS are bound by any custody agreements anymore. Your son is 18. If anyone had tried to tell me to go to bed at 22:00 at 18 I'd have laughed at them.
He needs a reality check.
You're son was wrong to lie to his Dad. If he wants to be treated like a man he needs to behave like one. And that means standing up for yourself even when someone doesn't want to hear it.
If your ExH would actually withhold financial aid through Uni solely because DS isn't jumping through the hoops then he really is pathetic.
But is it worth the money? Does he need it? There are loans available and he can work.

I'd rather stand up to him and put myself through uni than suck up to a man like that.

Also I think you need to stand up for yourself as well. Tell him to get a grip!

annielouise · 15/01/2016 22:42

Things will change soon enough Ellen when your DS goes off to university so I wouldn't worry about it. It really is between your DS and his dad now. I think with your exDH it's a control thing. You've pretty much done all the hard work but he feels he still has some control over things. My ex is like that.

EllenJanethickerknickers · 15/01/2016 22:44

The 'money for university thing' is also tricky. ExH pays exact CSA formula maintenance, less 1/7th for the EOW. I have no idea if he'll help DS1 out. I really hope so but money was a very bitter issue between us when we divorced and DS1 doesn't want to ask him.

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annielouise · 15/01/2016 22:46

It's crap isn't it. I'm going through exactly the same with my ex - hoping he'll contribute to university so the DC aren't left with a pile of debt.

EllenJanethickerknickers · 15/01/2016 22:47

ExH had no financial help at university from his parents, but he did get full grant and there were no fees. DS1 is prepared to get a job, but TBH, I've not pressured him to get one while in sixth form as I thought it might impact on his schoolwork. He's applying for summer jobs.

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EllenJanethickerknickers · 15/01/2016 22:48

annielouise, it is indeed a pile of crap. Sad

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