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to ask if you would consider home education?

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SundayBea · 15/01/2016 12:27

Have read a lot of articles recently on how the numbers in home education have 'exploded' and it's on the rise by 80% a year apparently. I know of three families I think quite highly of, two of whom are ex-teachers whose children have never been to school and their children seem to be having an exceptional upbringing and education with so many fantastic experiences and opportunities. Also know of two other families who have withdrawn their children from school because of problems with their respective schools and I'm less certain of how successful it is going to be for them. Also know of several colleagues and DH's cousin who have DC under 5 who are debating not registering them when the time comes. Is this a big thing now or is it just coincidence I know of so many families like this? I was just wondering what the general consensus was.. when I mentioned socialisation one of my ex-teacher friends showed me the Facebook group she is in for her local home education community and I was amazed at the plethora of groups, classes, meet ups and outings with hundreds of members.. just for her local county! Have been debating with DP what to do about schooling at private school is unfortunately out of the question on our current salaries.. I'm now feeling like I've discovered a whole new option I hadn't considered? Sorry if this is rambling, only getting a 5 minute lunch break today!

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witsender · 16/01/2016 10:06

With the amount of fucking around the govt does with teaching and schools at the moment, any decent teachers left have their hands tied. 'Innovative teaching methods?' Try getting a truly innovate teaching method past OFSTED. As a school governor, a teacher, and a parent...this rarely happens.

musicposy · 16/01/2016 10:40

I did. DD1 at 19 has gone to a very highly sought after full time performing arts school in London on a government scholarship. She has 10 GCSE's, mainly As and A*s, all gained at home, and A levels gained in college.

DD2 has 10 GCSEs, all As and A*. She's in 6th form now doing Biology, Chemistry and Physics because those subjects are very hard to do at home at this level (practical assessments for the exam which have to be done in a school), and is continuing with home ed in part doing Psychology and Maths A level at home.

She mainly complained about the loss of her social life and the HUGE loss of her independence! She's made great friends at school very quickly and built up a good social life with them but that's not the same as home Ed where the social life was amazing, never ending and able to be any time they chose. People think that herding children into the same place for 7 hours a day equals socialising. When they've been out in the real world their whole life you realise it really doesn't.

The teachers are amazed by her. Despite her GCSE A*s in the subjects, they initially voiced an opinion that she couldn't have been taught properly. They've had to change their views rapidly as she is at the top of every class. They keep saying, especially in the practicals, "how did you get so good at this at home?"

Primary age is not so bad but high school is a whole different game. They have specialist teachers for subjects, I can't imagine anybody being able to teach every subject to a high level and would be far too worried about GCSE results personally.

See above. You don't teach them at this level. DD2 got an A* in Chemistry, for example, and I know sod all about Chemistry, except for what she has taught me Grin. They research and learn for themselves and seek out people who can answer any questions they have. It's much more like university or masters learning. You're effectively teaching them to teach themselves.

DD1, who is through it all now, has been out in the real world in a management job for a gap year and is now in her performing arts school, frequently says "Taking me out of school (she was 11, DD2 was much younger), was the very best thing you ever did for me." It's lovely to hear as you get so much flack from people who don't understand it. To hear your adult children say you did the right thing is amazing. :)

musicposy · 16/01/2016 10:47

...and we are not in or near London and we are definitely not rich! I worked evenings (still do) as DH is in a lowly job (but one he loves) and we couldn't manage on one income.

Pteranodon · 16/01/2016 10:57

We home ed because it's the nicest, most enjoyable option available to us. I'm so grateful we can.

timelytess · 16/01/2016 11:01

I would have considered it and did - but dd wanted to go to school to meet more people and go to more birthday parties. She later (decades later) also informed me that our house was cold and she'd assumed school would be warmer, and that after the marriage break-up there was 'nobody home' in my head so if she'd been home ed she'd have spent her life alone. She was a very sensible four year old and decided to sod that for a game of soldiers, she was off to school.

TimeToMuskUp · 16/01/2016 11:06

DS1 (10) has Aspergers and has (so far) done incredibly well at school. He had a difficult Y3 with a dreadful teacher who was in the middle of a breakdown which affected her work and ability to understand and support DS1, that's pretty much the first time I'd considered HE. He got through it with extra support and has thrived. He's bright, loves the social side of school and is happy. Whilst that continue, he'll stay in school. If it affects him we'll look at the other options.

DS2 (5) is such a happy school-boy and loves Reception so far. If it ever changed, again, I'd consider alternatives.

Luckily we are in a financial position that I don't have to work, and we know several families who currently HE, so could find support within that community quite easily. I work in schools and am quite certain we could provide an enriching education in an alternative way if we needed it.

itsstillgood · 16/01/2016 11:25

I home educate one of mine (and did the other until he opted to go to secondary). For us it was a positive choice made when the eldest was about 3. Dh had memories of just being bored, frustrated and turned off learning by school. I personally loved primary school however I spent 18 months training as a teacher before walking away in despair at the system. I think the national curriculum is a mess! It is not schools and teachers I have issues with it is those who pull the strings.

What I do as a home educator is very different to a class teacher role. I don't for one second think I can do a better job of teaching a class it is completely different skill set.

It takes time and effort to home educate, whatever your individual approach. If anything I'd argue it takes more effort to do the whole 'unschooling' approach well than it does to follow an off the shelf curriculum. There are some I meet that go into it with unreal expectations.

More and more home educators are balancing working and home ed. It is definitely possible in the same way families juggle having preschoolers but not easy.

Numbers definitely have exploded. 10 years ago I knew about 8 families in my local small town who home eded. I can walk to that many now. In our area at least socialization is really not an issue. Neither is exam access, with increasing numbers comes better organisation and we have local groups that coordinate group tutorials and access to exams. Having a child going through options at the moment in a large secondary, I can say he'd definitely have more options if we were doing exams through the local home ed group (and he'd probably sit more).

Home educating isn't for every one. It is very hard work at times. The home ed community really is diverse; I know all the stereotypes from the very religious, the ex teachers, the lentil weavers, many with children with SEN and ASD, most of us don't fit any of those though.

queenoftheworld93 · 16/01/2016 11:34

I don't understand why parents expect school teachers to be fully qualified but also expect they can teach their own child at home without any such training.

I'd do it but I trained as a teacher and I'd probably only do until Y1/2.

Luckygirlcharlie · 16/01/2016 11:42

God no. Why do people think they're qualified to be teachers? I definitely wouldn't wish home education on my kids unless absolutely necessary.

NickiFury · 16/01/2016 11:47

I think it very much boils down to the difference between managing and being responsible for the education of one child and a class room of thirty of them. Also the NC is an exercise in ticking boxes and you'd need to teach and manage things in a certain way to teach what you're told you must to 30 kids.

I don't understand how people can't see the difference myself.

NickiFury · 16/01/2016 11:48

Obviously there are often more children in a family but for me personally there's only one.

Upthenoonoo · 16/01/2016 11:54

God no! I don't have the patience or the intelligence plus my dc adore school so we've been very fortunate. Unless there are specific issues eg crap school choice, sen then I cannot fathom why you would want to keep your dc at home all day.

DisappointedOne · 16/01/2016 12:18

God no. Why do people think they're qualified to be teachers? I definitely wouldn't wish home education on my kids unless absolutely necessary.

Have your kids never learned anything from you? Do they stop learning as soon as the school bell rings to signal home time? How many times have you heard/read things from parents about their child struggling with the way things are taught in school and looking for other ways to explain it?

DisappointedOne · 16/01/2016 12:19

then I cannot fathom why you would want to keep your dc at home all day.

What makes you think they're kept at home?!

itsstillgood · 16/01/2016 12:20

Nickifury is right. Home educating and classroom teaching are completely different. I've experience of both and I really can't stress that enough.
I don't for one second think home educating means I could teach a class. Neither does (from what I've seen) being a qualified teacher automatically mean that someone will find it easy to/or be good at home educating.
The nearest analogy I can make is I can rustle up a family roast, with everyone's plate adapted for their own personal likes and dislikes and allergies etc. This doesn't mean that I could walk in to a pub chain and dish out a standard roast (with requested tweaks) to a dining room of 30. That level of coordination is beyond me. I know my family well so tailoring for them is in my comfort zone. Plus we have our own criteria for what constitutes a good roast so I am not cooking (and provide endless paper work to prove it) to a menu planned by some 'experts' in a room somewhere.

sherry4283 · 16/01/2016 12:33

It may not be for everyone, however we weren't even aware we could homeschool until last August - and I've been homeschooling our 2 daughters (now 6 and 5) since September.

It is hard work, and it takes time to realise that the main benefit is that you don't have to replicate school at home.

My DH's main concern was socialisation - however we could be out every day of the week at various activities locally if we wanted to. The main advantage of this type of socialisation is that the children are being exposed to children and adults of all ages, rather than just in the same school year group.

NeedsAsockamnesty · 16/01/2016 12:43

I never understood why 30 kids of the same age forced to sit next to each other in a room

Is considered to be socialisation

ForalltheSaints · 16/01/2016 12:47

No, as school is not just about study but also social skills.

NickiFury · 16/01/2016 12:51

We are never at home. Read my earlier post. I had to put my foot down in the end and insist we took one day a week to be at home so we could actually do academic stuff and I could do all my other admin and keep on top of tidying the home.

JillIngle · 16/01/2016 12:58

Please have look at our local website. If you don't have much time, please at least have a look at the 'Round Up of Events' section and the personal experiences section ... then come back and still tell us that home educated kids are unsocialised or that parents need to be teachers to home educate. I get so fed up of people forming an opinion on something they have no experience or knowledge of.
www.syhec.co.uk

aquashiv · 16/01/2016 12:58

The ones I know who do, thrive and our happy.

Our state education system is broken, and I can only see it becoming more exclusive to those that learn in a certain way. Yet I do not have the mental strength to teach and parent my children 24/7.

AFootInBothCamps · 16/01/2016 13:04

The social skills argument is really starting to annoy me. Are people not reading the replies from those who home educate?

The children DO socialise, with a far wider range of people than those who go to school. They are more comfortable talking to a wider range of people than a lot of (not all) school kids. Home educating is not locking them up in a cupboard under the stairs in the dark. They a re out and about learning valuable life skills all the time, socialising with a wide range of people and tailoring their learning to what suits them, not the government.

School for some children is hell. The forced 'socialisation' can be with other children who do not understand them, bully them, tease them, who they generally have nothing in common with other than their birth year. Add iN SEN issues and it is even worse. At no other time in your life are you forced to spend six hours with people all your own age. How is that wide and varied socialisation?

NickiFury · 16/01/2016 13:06

That's a very good analogy itsstillgood Smile

Crusoe · 16/01/2016 13:07

I home educated for 9 months because my ds's school was rubbish. He has additional needs they couldn't & didn't want to support.
For us home ed was a short term measure until we could get him into the right school. It was tough and wouldn't have been right for any of long term but so much better than being the wrong and potentially damaging school.

fuzzpig · 16/01/2016 13:30

I've not RTFT, will do so later.

We very nearly HEd from the start, but decided to give school a go as DD flourished at nursery. We always said that we would HE if either DC was unhappy at school.

In the event, they got to yr3 and yr1 and then they were both very unhappy. DD in her new junior school was mercilessly bullied, DS was just really miserable about it and hated going. We kept trying for a while but for a couple of reasons just reached our 'line in the sand' moment with both schools, I couldn't bear the thought of sending them back into a place where they felt so unsafe, and after the February half term last year they didn't go back.

We are very lucky round here that there is a thriving HE community. I'd been so worried about the social aspects but now I laugh at that because their social life is far busier and more varied than it was before. The DCs have made loads more friends and so have I! They do heaps of activities, some regular like rock climbing and creative writing, some one-off workshops at museums and stuff. I do think it's a bit of a lottery as to the local 'scene' because if there weren't so many families around and therefore loads of different activities going on, we would probably struggle, particularly as we don't drive so can't go too far.

We never had time to do all these before because the DCs were so wrung out from school that all they could do was crash (I know a lot of DCs aren't like that BTW, mine are almost certainly both on the autistic spectrum like me). It costs a fair bit but I have started giving music lessons as that's a skill I have, mostly I am paid in cash (and am registering as self employed) but we also do skills swaps, so my DCs might get lessons in martial arts or something from another parent in exchange for me teaching piano to their DCs.

As for work, we're still finding our way really but we are sort of semi structured. Numeracy and literacy are non-negotiable, we have a routine that fits them in. Other topics are led partly by their interests and questions,for example DS asked what his veins were so we did a topic about blood, made blood cells out of clay etc, DD recently asked why there was more rain and flooding so we are doing the water cycle, doing evaporation experiments and that kind of thing. They are obsessed with Egypt so that's inspired loads of work and trips to museums. Again, I know that lots of people do this kind of thing outside school but for our DCs it just wasn't possible on top of a long hard day at school. We're going to the Escher exhibition tomorrow and that's really inspired them.

A lot of people ask how I can manage preparing the work but TBH we play it by ear and a lot of it is done with them, rather than for them IYSWIM, we come up with project ideas together and they are really involved in the planning and researching. For example yesterday they were asking about 'those things they look out of submarines with' :o so we're now finding out how to make our own periscopes. The internet is really great for ideas, I joined lots of HE-specific groups on FB and people are always sharing projects and resources. Lots of companies send out free stuff to schools and HE families on request. I absolutely love coming up with ideas, this is a dream come true for me TBH. I am a geek, though. :o

But more important than that is the improvement in their mental health, particularly DD who was incredibly anxious. She's been discharged from CAMHS because they could see how much she's improved since leaving school, she no longer has stress migraines and panic attacks. Above all that's what it's about for me. :)

Sorry for the waffle. Blush

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