to object to MNHQ forcing a MALE/FEMALE gender binary on my account.

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I don't have any GENDER.

My MN account forces me to pick from two 'genders'.

I can't even opt out, it's a forced binary choice.

I'm not agender, pangender, cisgender, transgender, male gender, female gender or ANY GENDER.

If you want to know my sex, I am happy to provide that information. But you'll have to add that in as a field, because it doesn't exist currently.

Sex and gender are not the same thing. If you insist on collecting data by gender and making it a forced choice I would like an option as follows:

"Reject gender as a harmful, made up, bullshit concept".

Then when you analyse your account database you can say
X% identify as female gender
Y% identify as male gender
Z% reject gender as a bullshit concept.

AIBU to request MNHQ to alter my account details so that they do not misrepresent me?

The reason why trans thread attract so many posts is because the women who post on them are legitimately concerned that their rights and existence are being gradually eroded. It's obvious really.
And I've been reading the various threads on cologne with much interest. I'm not particularly self-confident or academic, so I do hold back from posting on those kinds of threads unless I feel I know enough about the subject to post something that's worth others reading.
That doesn't mean that I'm not interested or don't give a shit about what happened to those women

Yeah, the 'Where's the Cologne threads'
'Here'
'Eventually'

Thing wasn't an attempt to derail, or criticise. This thread is obviously the right place to critique where these threads were posted and whether they were in a timely manner.

Btw, I don't think it's about replacing sex by gender. It's the fact that until now there has been no need to make a clear difference between sex and gender. You had the gender of your sex iyswim.

Now that we are talking about trans people and people being the gender NOT related tro their sex, then we ALL need to learn to make the distinction between sex and gender.
It's mixing these two definitions that creates so many problems. Both for women and for trans.

😴 this is getting ridiculous now

It's like Tumblr here sometimes. I swear some posters see threads and think "Hmm, not enough Trans discussion in here. EVERYONE LOOK AT ME I'M TRANS!".

And then when the discussion turns to trans but isn't about how brave and wonderful Caitbrucelyn Jenner is, they stamp their feet.

Precisely Obsidian, but sadly I think that's too much of a complex argument for many people to get their head round. Judging by some of the responses on this thread. It's deeply worrying and frustrating.

Anyway...
No response from MNHQ

But I'm glad it's not just me. And I hope MNHQ reconsiders the gender option in account information.

I take it therefore that it doesn't bother you if a female-bodied person is staring at naked female bodies for gratification?

Not as much, no. I have no problem with being naked or semi naked in communal changing rooms. I am aware that women may be looking at me for gratification, but in the many years I have been using them I have never noticed a woman looking or passing comments at me or any other woman in an inappropriate manner. If they did, I would say something.

I cannot count the number of times I've seen men doing that even when I or other women are fully clothed. So I'm not going to allow a male bodied person into my changing room if I notice them just because their feelings are considered more important than mine.

Ego is why I rarely comment on any threads that mention Trans. I know how the conversation will go now. Total groundhog day, so I am bowing out.

I have also heard lesbians talk about how they purposely are very careful where they look in changing rooms so as not to freak women out. So much lesbophobia on MN, which makes me very sad.

It's not just about whether the person looking at you is getting off on it. There's also the matter of dignity and respect for others. When I'm in a state of undress I don't want any men to be there, unless it's someone I'm in a relationship, obviously. It's not because I think all men and trans women want to perv on me and rape me.

Part of the problem - and I offer no answer - is that we have shifted from a social model of definition (i.e. all of society point at someone and say "you are x,y and z") to an individual one (where a person points at themselves and says "I am x,y and z"). Obviously (?) we are keen to ensure then that no one individual is discriminated against when compared to another.

If we carry on being so clever at redefinitions, we may need to improve road safety at zebra crossings.

Why do we have to justify why we don't want to be naked in front of people of the opposite sex?

Why do we always end up having to share experiences of sexual assault and harassment in an attempt to justify our feelings?

Why is 'No' not enough when it comes to our own bodies?

No is a complete sentence, after all, I thought?

I have a question OP
Would it be better to a) remove the 'Gender/Sex' heading and just have two Male/Female ticky boxes to complete or b) have a third option of 'prefer not to say'?
I'm not sure if the offence is that Gender is the incorrect term or that you're being asked to pigeon hole yourself in the first place?
I'm not asking this to be goady.

The thread is about gender and the difference between it and sex. Many posters didn't see the issue with having to define themselves by gender, and said things which I would imagine to be quite offensive to a transwoman as much as to many women - get over yourself OP, have you cured cancer yet, it just means do you have a vagina or a penis, obvs.

In discussing the difference between gender and sex, and why we don't want to have to define in relation to a thing that we don't consider to be meaningful and shouldn't be validated as such by being used as a category, the conversation over-laps with trans issues, since they too question the relationship between sex and gender.

What we do not fucking need is someone coming on and telling us we should be posting about Cologne instead, telling us we haven't done this enough, and whining that it's obviously all about transwomen.

That makes a change.

Most people don't realise that the vast majority of trans women have penises and many want to keep them. They see themselves as "lesbians" and complain that it's transphobia for lesbian women to refuse to sleep with them, despite the penis

Evidence?

I have no problem with being naked or semi naked in communal changing rooms. I am aware that women may be looking at me for gratification, but in the many years I have been using them I have never noticed a woman looking or passing comments at me or any other woman in an inappropriate manner. If they did, I would say something.

Interesting, Limited. The likelihood is that you will have at some time shared that changing room with a transwoman who was amongst those women who didn't look at you, whether for sexual gratification or not.

I cannot count the number of times I've seen men doing that even when I or other women are fully clothed. So I'm not going to allow a male bodied person into my changing room if I notice them just because their feelings are considered more important than mine.

But, in practical terms, how are you going to stop it? The likelihood that a transwoman with male genitalia is going to allow you to see them is vanishingly small.

vast majority of trans women have penises and many want to keep them. They see themselves as "lesbians" and complain that it's transphobia for lesbian women to refuse to sleep with them, despite the penis

Yes - i would like to see some evidence/backing up this comment

did you mean to put some and accidentally type vast majority of?

I DON'T UNDERSTAND
WHAT IS THE OP OBJECTING TOO????

you don't have to tick a box. mine is not ticked(didn't even notice it)

Yawn...