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AIBU?

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To assume he has forgotten his child?

92 replies

HairySubject · 19/12/2015 16:13

Exp brought our son home at 10am this morning. He only picked him up at 6 last night but that is a whole other thread. Anyway he said he had too much to do so couldn't have ds today. He had to get his tyres changed and a isn't want to take ds with him.
He had his dd with him (from relationship previous to ours) and she asked if she could stay here too rather than get dragged around. She is 7 our ds is 3.
I of course said yes. Well it is now 6 hours later and still no sign of him.

Aibu to assume he has forgotten his dd is here? I know I can just ring him but then he will be all like, well if dd is too much trouble for you I will just pick her up blah blah blah. If you don't want her etc etc.

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HairySubject · 19/12/2015 20:28

Terrypratchett not so far, although who knows what the future holds. He is still single at the mo though.

sally if she preferred to stay here then I don't see how she is being deprived. She is 7 years old, perfectly capable of saying where she wants to be and also I assume capable of picking up on her father's can't be arsed attitude, hence why she requests to stay here.

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knobblyknee · 19/12/2015 20:28

My ex used to dump our son any chance he got. Luckily many people were gracious about it as you are, and he had a good time visiting people I didnt know existed.
These are for you. FlowersWine

MrsTerryPratchett · 19/12/2015 20:33

Long may it continue. I hope he is alone forever. [not very charitable]

You and his other ex, on the other hand, will have a lovely set of kids who actually want to spend time with you.

flippinada · 19/12/2015 20:33

Exactly Hairy, kids aren't daft. You sound lovely and I'm glad you and your DSD have such a good relationship.

HairySubject · 19/12/2015 20:35

Thanks for the flowers Grin

I don't know if him being single is good, maybe if he got a lovely girlfriend (mug like I was) she would help him - - do all the work-- and he would manage to have a better relationship with his kids. A tally scrap that, any decent woman will only put up with him for so long.

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flippinada · 19/12/2015 20:39

Hairy my XP sounds similar to yours, although not quite as shameless.

People pick up the slack for him left, right and centre and he just goes on his merry way pleasing himself. I couldn't live with myself if I behaved like that and I'll never understand people who do.

Orda1 · 19/12/2015 20:41

He's already got two "two children from a previous relationship" and the oldest isn't only 7... What a catch!

HairySubject · 19/12/2015 20:43

I totally agree with you Orda although hindsight is a wonderful thing.

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DontMindMe1 · 19/12/2015 20:55

I don't see how I am suddenly in the wrong here, would the rest of you have said no to the child when she asked could she stay?

i'd have told him that he it was his responsibility to sort his tyres out when he didn't have the kids. The tyres can wait til his contact time is over. I'd have also told him that it's perfectly possible to do things like this AND look after kids at the same time.

As for the girl not wanting to spend time with her dad cos she can pick up on his arseyness - well that's something her mother should know about and be dealing with.

Plus you already know he's an arse and not interested in behaving like a good dad.

sleeponeday · 19/12/2015 21:30

But you should say no! Then he would have to step up and parent his own kids.
You allow him to not have to do that. So you cant complain when he doesnt have DS because you let him off the hook with DSD. Your choice. But you only have yourself to blame.

Utter, arrant bullshit.

This man is not going to magically transform into the perfect father if a woman who loves his child suddenly refuses to care for her, on the numerous occasions when he can't be arsed. He will simply find someone else to dump her on, without the least concern for their even liking the child, far less loving her. The thinking that if only women managed men better then they would behave better is so demeaning to the great fathers and husbands out there, and it's also incredibly sexist in placing all the responsibility for male choices and behaviour onto women. He is not a child, whose behaviour can be improved with judicious and intelligent management. He is a selfish and neglectful adult, whose choices are now habitually in his own interests.

The OP is stepping up, as she explicitly says, because his behaviour hurts his child, in making his lack of interest and concern plain, and she can shelter her from that by making her own loving interest every bit as plain. And yes, he is a manipulative toad in trying to make out that if she ever fails to provide free childcare, she is the one lacking in care and love of dd... but he wouldn't be the primary loser if the OP refused to do so, the child would, so the OP is swallowing the shitty behaviour to protect the child. This is what putting a child first looks like in practice, when only one side is interested in doing so. It means unfairness to the decent adult in the equation, or unfairness to the child. There is no good third option in such situations. To believe otherwise is to enter the realms of a Disney cartoon.

Talk about blaming the victim. And what spectacularly great evidence that a stepmother can't win for losing, too.

This child is hideously unlucky, in having a dick for a father. Previous posters are right: he doesn't seem to be doing the care in exchange for the CSA remission, and you have to wonder if his contact time is mainly taken up to cut his bill, given he doesn't seem to want to see her on his days, anyway. But unlike so, so many children in this position, she does have two loving, engaged, concerned and committed parents. It's just that one of them is her stepmother. Most blended families don't have this level of warmth and trust between the former partners, and the benefit to the children is so apparent here.

OP, kids are not stupid. In 20 years' time, you will be someone this girl loves and respects and visits, and sees as family. Her father may not find himself in that position, because he hasn't put in the time, and shows no sign of planning to.

HairySubject · 19/12/2015 21:54

Thank you sleeponeday for such an intelligent and insightful post. I agree with everything you said. Thank you.

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CharlotteCollins · 19/12/2015 22:09

Given that he is ducking out of his contact time (fairly regularly), there is an argument here for reducing the hours to something he can "manage better". Might be better for the DCs, to be pushed away less?

CharlotteCollins · 19/12/2015 22:11

Sorry, there's meant to be a "?" at the end of "fairly regularly", because it seems like he has form for this but I don't have your perspective.

Lweji · 19/12/2015 22:12

And to arrange the girl's visits directly with her mother.

FlowersAndShit · 19/12/2015 22:18

Jesus Christ, why are most most men either shit fathers or husbands/partners or a combination of both?

flippinada · 19/12/2015 22:29

Excellent post sleeponeday

SanityClause · 19/12/2015 22:30

Umm, they're not, Flowers.

This one is, though, I'll give you that.

QueenArseClangers · 19/12/2015 22:34

What sleeponeday said x100000!

Saymwa · 19/12/2015 22:42

Sleeponeday,
Well said !

Sallyhasleftthebuilding · 20/12/2015 01:58

So the OP is swallowing the shitty behaviour to protect the child

Yes by choice - therefore can not complain about being treated that way.

Yes great step parent, no doubt great parent, but knowing he has form and by allowing it, you can not then complain hes dumping on you.

LucyBabs · 20/12/2015 02:09

Can't understand why the op is getting a hard time.

op you sound lovely and your dsd is lucky to have you. Better that she is with you and her brother than her useless father.

Yes he should step up and be a decent human being but how can anyone force that and worse still force a child to be with someone who doesn't care?!

Youarentkiddingme · 20/12/2015 09:08

Excellent post sleeponeday

I've always believed children should grow up feeling loved - it is a basic need.
Who raises you is largely irrelevant. How is hugely relevant.

HairySubject · 20/12/2015 09:09

Sally I do apologize, next time I post a thread on the internet I will of course check I am eligible to complain.

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Champagneformyrealfriends · 20/12/2015 09:25

Op you sound lovely. He sounds useless. Flowers

LizzieMacQueen · 20/12/2015 09:33

So, what are you all doing for Christmas, will he see his kids then?