Lee Rigby murder: Michael Adebolajo suing over teeth lost in prison

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I hope that any compensation awarded is given to Lee Rigby's family.

Michael Adebolajo should not see a penny.

I'm always about people who come on here and claim to be validated by people they have spoken to. Because (1) anyone can say that and (2) people tend to discuss contentious subjects with people who think the same way as they do, so it doesn't validate anything. It's like Daily Mail arsehole commenters who think it's some sort of triumph if someone who disagrees with them gets lots of red ticks, when the reality is that it just demonstrates the unsurprising fact that there are another 300 arseholes who read the Mail.

Whoever the barrister, lawyer, legal team, etc, who defend him they should be thoroughly ashamed of themselves. This guy deserves nothing and it boils my blood that he uses legal aid to try and get compensation when he killed a man in cold blood.

Sorry, chicken, but that's ridiculous. If we start saying that certain people are never entitled to legal representation it's the start of a very slippery slope which will allow abuses to carry on unchecked.

If people want to live in a country where people have poor human rights and abuses are the norm off you trot I'm sure Saudi Arabia , Syria, Russia and quite a few others would love to have you.
Saying justice and fair play and access to legal services is only the privilege of the worthy few is a slippery slope.

I think we need to draw up a legal aid fuckwit bingo card for future use. So far we've had:

-fat fees

-legal aid lawyers should know what the outcome of an investigation is before taking it on and deny their services accordingly

-legal aid lawyers should be ashamed of themselves for not unilaterally deciding to deny certain people the rights that democratically elected governments have allowed for

-waa waa bleeding heart liberals

-some murderers are much better than others and I get to decide which while I write my Saw script

I think that's most of the biggies ticked off already?

Yeah i know Dipank in practice it would be impossible to restict legal aid for some people but it just really annoys me sometimes. This guy killed someone and he is trying to claim money for being restrained when in liklihood he was probably being threatening, etc, to be restrained in the first place.

I think that criminals should have the the best legal representation possible. It prevent any miscarriages of justice.

It's ok to be annoyed chicken. The problem is that until it's investigated, you can't actually know whether he was being threatening or not. It's not a great idea to create a system where some people have impunity to act how they like towards some other people. Tends not to end well. All of the rights we have to things like redress against the state were paid for by blood, often blood of innocents. The way to see it, I think, is to ask yourself whether this little arsehole is worth you giving up any of your hard won rights for.

chickenstyle Do you mean the lawyer, if there is one, acting for him in this claim or the solicitors and counsel who acted in his defence when he was tried for murder?

You are wrong either way, but especially if you mean the defence in the criminal trial. A lawyer does not have to be ashamed of acting for somebody the tabloid press does not like.

"ask yourself whether this little arsehole is worth you giving up any of your hard won rights for."

This.

Suppose I'm used to rl, where people don't tiptoe around what they mean.

I don't tiptoe around what I mean either guajiraguantanamera

I find your views ignorant. I would try and work out whether you believe them or are just showing off like a little girl flashing her knickers behind the bikesheds, but I CBA.

If not one person you've spoken to about this case disagrees with you, I suggest you widen your circle of acquaintance.

It's ignorant to wish dead the man who ran over and hacked up another man, for no reason other than he was a racist twat??
Aye no bother then. I am ignorant.

I don't wish anything on him. I didn't think about him until this thread. He has been dealt with and will spend the rest of his life behind bars.

If he has a grievance about his teeth being knocked out in prison, then we should look at it like we would with everyone else alleging wrong-doing by the authorities. Maybe he has a point or maybe he doesn't.

He got got a whole life tariff. That was reduced to 45 years before consideration for parole. He's probably not ever going to get out. Faced with that prospect, I'd probably dick around with spurious legal claims, keeping birds, digging my way out with a spoon...

Who cares?

To be perfectly honest the men responsible for Lee Rigbys death are probably a lot safer behind those bars. Let them out and he'll have more to be worried about than a few broken teeth!

This is a tricky one I think. Surely everyone's first reaction would be that he deserved to have his teeth kicked in, that was certainly mine.

However, we are supposed to be a civilised country. Remand prisoners (or even sentenced prisoners) should not be treated like that. The punishment is the loss of liberty. If you say, OK, he deserved it, then where do you draw the line?

I believe he should be given the opportunity to apply for compensation, but if it is granted, the full circumstances should be taken into account. Then, any compensation offered should be relative to that. Therefore, maybe something like 10p per tooth.

The money can not go to Lee Rigby's family, it is not their compensation, it is Adebolajo's compensation.

I think the government needs to stand behind the prison service on the this one. To offer any kind of compensation to this monster makes a mockery of the boys and girls that risk their lives dealing with these violent men every day.
He was being restrained ie he wasn't doing what he was told.
He'll mend him.
It's the poor officers that have to see his ugly mug every day I feel sorry for.
He can get his teeth fixed by the lovely prison dentist. Hopefully the anesthetic kills him.

Hell not he'll

To be perfectly honest the men responsible for Lee Rigbys death are probably a lot safer behind those bars. Let them out and he'll have more to be worried about than a few broken teeth!

That's just a revenge fantasy.

If they were released from prison I doubt anything would happen to them. If it did the perpetrator would have to face justice. If he killed them, he would be convicted of murder and sentenced to life. There's no option. Parole starts at about 15 years I think. Do you want to do it?

That's what I find distasteful about these threads - the feeling that everyone who has had a loved one murdered would take revenge.

They don't. I'm sure many of them want to, but for whatever reason they decide not to.

What I find obscene is the suggestion from people who haven't been through it is that people who have been are somehow lacking.

Greebosmum, if he gets damages the money could go to Lee Rigsby's relatives if they want to claim it. Basically they would have to start their own claim and apply for any damages due to Adebolajo to be frozen if their claim hasn't been dealt with by the time damages are paid.

Guaji, you are assuming you know the facts. Unless you were there, you don't.

What's to know, he hardly broke his teeth because he was doing something kind and useful.,
He was being restrained because he had obviously made the environment dangerous, officers got involved and he hurt himself. And now he's crying like a baby about suing for damages.
Despite what you may think, the officers don't go about looking to annoy inmates and hurt them, they restrain them to keep themselves and everybody in the jail safe. I'm sure if he had kept his head down and done whatever was asked of him he wouldn't get into so much bother inside.
The other prisoners is obviously a different story lol...

Guaji, your view of what prison officers do and don't do is distinctly rose-coloured.

I'm just wondering if someone as ignorant as guaji seems to be has any personal experience of what goes on in prisons.

Dipankrispaneven Exactly - although in practice it is very difficult to work this process; you have to know the number of the case you want to cut into - and the Claimant will not (and the Prison Service cannot) tell you.

Anybody who thinks he has no claim because an internal inquiry cleared the officers is living in cloud-cuckoo-land. Leave the officers out if you wish; the Service owes him the duty to protect him from violence from other inmates so far as it reasonably can. I believe it (which means us as taxpayers) has had to pay that swine Huntley damages for an attack on him by an inmate who was allowed near him with a knife.

ilovesooty yes I do. Rather be ignorant than a liberal living in ignorance