Lee Rigby murder: Michael Adebolajo suing over teeth lost in prison

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www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-35058076

I hope that any compensation awarded is given to Lee Rigby's family.

Michael Adebolajo should not see a penny.

hopefully he wont get nothing what will he do with money in prison anyway

Protection money? He'll need it.

Couldnt have happened to a nicer bloke.

I am completely against the death penalty on moral grounds. How can the punishment for killing, be killing?

That said, I am quite glad he got his teeth knocked out. I hope it hurt and I hope it will continue to cause him lasting pain.

Behavioural management won't work on him. He wanted death by cop and martyrdom. His mission now is doubtless to be a thorn in the side of 'the system' as a second choice.

Behavioural management is rehabilation and prisons do attempt to rehabilate people with mixed results. Michael Adebolajo might be a different and calmer man in 40 years time.

In the us there are murderers on death row who have certainly been rehabilated by the long period in jail. Often they are executed decades after the crime they committed.

The degree to which a prisoner can be rehabilated varies. Some prisoners cannot cope with the outside world and re offend.

In the us there are murderers on death row who have certainly been rehabilated by the long period in jail. Often they are executed decades after the crime they committed.

Of course. MA is a completely different kettle of fish to most lifers, though.

I don't particularly care if they are different or not after 40 years.

It's heartening that some might change, but really, if they do see the light and realise the gravity of what they've done, then good, it's yet more of a punishment. It should be. They deprived a man of life and a child of his dad in the most dreadful way.

Some crimes are unforgivable.

I may be very wrong but if the restraint was investigated at the time and officers were cleared of any wrong-doing, I don't understand why there would still be a case for compensation.
I thought when claiming comp there needed to be evidence that the treatment was inappropriate.
The family may be able to access any award he might receive but this would just be another horrible thing they need to deal with.
I really feel in cases like this that the Law Society should implore/insist that legal professionals do not take them on.
Waiting for law experts to educate me now - please be kind.

It's vital that low life like Michael Adebolajo are treated within the law. Yes, even lifers need access to lawyers.

I think he's got a brass neck to expect the British system or the British people to care that he got his teeth smashed in while in prison. He was resisting restraint (apparently) but even if he wasn't I dont care.

He was prepared to die that day, he wanted the police to shoot him. I'm glad they didn't, and he'll wither away inside.

I give not one fuck for his suffering.

Sad times when a murderer has more free speech than a mumsnetter

I stand by what I said its nothing less than that monster deserves.
He will try to make himself infamous in prison but he will crumble one day and will be found swinging one morning (one can hope)

No sympathy for a babaric murderer, glad there was no case to answer, because he doesn't deserve any extra publicity.
Let him rot in jail until the day he dies.

Pausing I didn't know about the policewoman shooting to apprehend him not kill. What a brave and skilful woman to be able to do that in what must have been horrendous pressure. She must have known that if she'd killed him lots of people would've said 'good riddance' but it was right to make him go to trial and be convicted for what he had done. I hope this will be one of many moments of frustration and rage for him as his plan to be a public irritant goes wrong, when he gets no money from this. I hope the rest of his life is spent being bored and frustrated and powerless.

I agree that everyone including lifers have access to the law. My comments are specific to the restraint having already been assessed, so if nothing wrong was found then why is there a need for further legal action. I presumed a lawyer would simply explain there isn't a case as there is no evidence to suggest he was maltreated. I don't understand why it would go any further.

I may be very wrong but if the restraint was investigated at the time and officers were cleared of any wrong-doing, I don't understand why there would still be a case for compensation.

It happens time and again that investigations, particularly in relation to complaints against prisons and police officers, are whitewashes. We don't know whether that is the case here, but that is probably the reason why there is still a potential claim: you cannot regard an investigation as conclusive.

When a restraint has gone wrong its reasonable for people outside the prison service to look at the circumstances. It is very rare that a restraint ends up with the restrainee getting teeth knocked out. Cover ups when restraints go wrong are not unheard of.

I hope all his teeth were knocked out and that they cause him lasting distress.

No sympathy from me. That is all reserved for Lee Rigby's family and friends.

You think there has been a cover up?

I don't believe there has been any cover up. However cover ups have certainly happened in the past when restraints have gone wrong in hospitals, care homes or schools or police custody. Unless a prisoner who has been injured in a restraint access to lawyers and the courts its is hard to counter accustations of a cover up.

This case is an accusation of a cover up following a death in police custody.

www.theguardian.com/uk/2009/aug/21/sean-riggs-police-death-cctv

I hope that the prison has plenty of cctv cameras so that a judge can watch what happened during the restraint.

I think (wild generalisation) one is at less risk from the staff in prison than in a police cell (particularly if you have made the mistake of being black - or worse- black and male), if you can judge by the number of police custody suite scandals there have been over the years and the callousness that eventually is uncovered.

Of course, once in prison, you have to factor in the risk from fellow inmates.

There are people here who disgust me.
A life tariff is exactly the right sentence. Murdering a murder is not.

Looking at the news reports again, the policewoman shot his hand to disarm him while he was attempting to kill her and her colleagues with first a meat cleaver then a gun.

They were at close range and she could quite easily have shot him in the head at this point, but did no such thing.

Lee Rigby trial: police woman thought she was going to die as man ran at her with meat cleaver, court hears
"Adebolajo also told him he wished the bullets had killed him, Richard Whittam QC, prosecuting, said."

I wouldn't go waving that Telegraph article as a banner for kick-ass women cops.

Read it carefully. It portrays the female officer as little more than Penelope PitStop while her manly male colleague took the badass down.

I'm not calling her competence or bravery into account. It just wasn't her who took the bad man down that day.

Thank you, I read it just fine.

But then I wasn't looking for "a banner for kick-ass women cops", so don't find it disappointing. I referred to her as a policewoman because, er, she's a policewoman.

What I didn't check was that it was Adebowale who was the one who was shot in the hand, but actually it's Adebolajo trying to sue re the lost teeth. Makes no difference wrt the officers' decisions while trying to apprehend the pair: they didn't try to kill either of them.