To love the idea of scrapping all benefits and just giving everyone £500 a month

[DyslexicScientist]

Like Finland are going to do.

Would get rid of all the east that goes on with means testing and would cost about the same.

Would be much fairer as the current system does discriminate against certain demographics.

A minimum allowance to which each individual is entitled. Not household, individual, and which they weren't required to do anything other than exist and provide some facility for payment in order to obtain. No need to jobseek etc. This doesn't in any way preclude people in some categories from receiving more than that minimum. Nor does it prevent children having an allowance paid to their parent/s.

Saying that, I was thinking as I wrote this that nobody's mentioned people in prison yet. I suppose we'd do as we do now and suspend any entitlement for the duration of the sentence.

So the suggestion that we would need to tax it away from people who didn't need it is indeed moving away from it, to the point that it wouldn't qualify as a Citizen's Income, as those people wouldn't get it any more.

Lost the rest of it.

Thank you for finally clarifying what you see a Citizen's Income to be - merely repeating that there are many models of it wasn't any more of a persuasive argument than whatever you were objecting to earlier. So the working definition of it doesn't preclude people from claiming benefits then.

So we're back to the point that the proposed savings in administration of benefits isn't actually going to be very much after all, which is especially problematic as that is often given as a large part of paying for the Citizen's Income.

Finally? I said it many, many posts ago. The rest of your last two posts don't make a great deal of sense, and your claims that anything other than a flat universal allowance isn't CI are still a mere statement of opinion with nowt but foot stomping to back them. But if, as I suspect, you're saying CI wouldn't work in the UK, that's what I reckon too. And said upthread...

I've read them again, and they make perfect sense to me. But if you're making comments like "foot stomping", then you've obviously had enough, so I'm out as well.

Perhaps the OP will be back to address the many flaws pointed out with what she proposes.

If you're going to be as patronising as that, I agree it's probably best you depart.