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AIBU to think that people should stop claiming we are a Christian country.

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Ohbehave1 · 06/12/2015 00:31

Church attendances are at a very low level. How can we claim to be Christian when virtually no one goes to church any more. It seems people are when it suits them ( births, deaths and marriages or to be anti non Christian )

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Werksallhourz · 06/12/2015 21:10

Caroldecker is correct. The reason why Britain is a Protestant Christian country is a constitutional issue. It's got nothing to do with bums on seats in churches on Sundays. I explained why on a previous thread somewhere. Protestant Christianity is heavily embedded in the notion of where state power in Britain originates.

Brahumbug Quite a bit of myth in the New Testament? People coming back from the dead, feeding the 5000 with some loaves and fish?

This is why I always recommend that people to read the Lattimore version of the NT. It is a more accurate translation and is extremely enlightening , particularly if you know the apocrypha.

Egosumquisum · 06/12/2015 21:14

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jollyfrenchy · 06/12/2015 21:31

I do think it is pretty ridiculous that our society is based in many ways as outlined by others above on a religion that most people in the country don't believe in. In particular the influence of religion on education is outrageous and I believe, needs to be stopped. All schools should be non-denominational, and teach about all religions equally. (That is different from this "WE believe this but THEY believe that" nonsense that happens so much) if parents want to bring their children up in a particular religion that is up to them.

PrettyBrightFireflies · 06/12/2015 21:42

I was under the impression that there was someone called Jesus who may have been a preacher and was crucified.

Then his disciples fled and the words of people who were there were passed down and that's where a lot of the Gospels came from.

Exactly - even if they are truely the writings of men who were present at the time, they are not objective. The disciples were Jesus' friends.
The Gospels present a positive perspective that promote the teachings of a man called Jesus.

Had other records of the time been handed down from generation to generation, then there may be a very different perspective on Jesus' life.

hefzi · 06/12/2015 21:55

Weren't their figures out last year, though, that show more people go to church than go to football matches?

We have a long cultural and historical tradition - not just a religious one- of Christianity, so on that basis alone, YABU!

Egosumquisum · 06/12/2015 22:06

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Werksallhourz · 06/12/2015 22:28

Ego .. what becomes clear when you read Lattimore's translation is that "fish" aint necessarily fish and "bread" aint necessarily bread.

mimishimmi · 06/12/2015 23:32

Meh. So what? So David Cameron had a Jewish ancestor a few generations ago. Lots of us do. It's not like he was concealing it.

Cleansheetsandbedding · 06/12/2015 23:38

mimish actually he wasn't very forth coming with his connections - especially since who is great grandfather was. Nd when he did 'embrace' his heritage (mainly) to a Jewish audience he quipped ' we should be called the Torah party instead of the Tory party' or along those lines...

Makes you wonder how much interests he really does have in getting involved in Syria doesn't it...

mimishimmi · 06/12/2015 23:43

Not all people with Jewish ancestry are on board with these crazy expansionist/war mongering dreams. It ends badly. Every. single. time.

Except for those who make out like bandits. The ordinary ones die.

thinkfast · 06/12/2015 23:46

Church attendance alone doesn't determine if the UK is a Christian country. We have an established church. It's bishops sit in the House of Lords. Our head of state is also the head of that church. The country's history, laws' morals are rooted in that religion

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