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AIBU?

First time mum here so not sure what is considered the 'norm' when it comes to in-laws

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Inshock73 · 01/12/2015 08:36

I have a six month old baby, DP and I have a great relationship and I get on extremely well with all of DP's family.

We live half an hour away from in-laws and since baby was born they've requested they see her every week on a set day which I've always accommodated. From just a few weeks old they wanted to have her 'on their own' for an afternoon every week. They've bought toys for her which stay at their house and aren't allowed to come home with us. They're decorating the spare room to be 'her bedroom' including putting her name on the bedroom door. Their house is like a shrine there are photos everywhere, photos they've taken of her when she's with them that we've never seen!

I want to have a few traditions that are just 'ours' e.g. a Christmas stocking but I've been told in no uncertain terms they 'will' be doing her a christmas stocking aswell as other presents. We've had hand and foot casts made and they've now asked us to have some made for them. They've also 'told' me they want a lock of her hair when she has her first haircut and I mustn't forget!

I'm finding it all too much and at times feel like they're behaving like she's their child rather than grandchild.

AIBU?

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ArmfulOfRoses · 01/12/2015 12:18

You should cancel "their" afternoon and see their in laws instead.

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ImperfectAlf · 01/12/2015 12:25

I'm a very new GP and even I wouldn't do this. And if I did I would expect a Royal 'fuck off' from both parents! Rightly so. It's your baby. You choose how to bring her up. GPs get to help if you need it. YNBU

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AbeSaidYes · 01/12/2015 12:36

What exactly does 'doing a stocking' mean? is it just presenting the child with an empty stocking or filling it too?

If the latter then the simplest thing might be to buy a bigger stocking and fill it with presents of your own then put a couple of the granny ones in too?

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wickedlazy · 01/12/2015 12:37

I could have written op. Mil is very full on with ds, which is lovely but can get annoying, and sometimes disrespectful. We've found me being good cop and dp bad cop works. Your dp needs to go "mum, no this is what's going to happen". Wears you down though, ds is 5 now and there's still a new battle of wills every few days. She's very domineering. And I hate confrontation, because I have an acid tongue and can be really mean.

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ImperialBlether · 01/12/2015 12:56

It would be interesting to have a conversation with their in laws, wouldn't it, to see whether they actually did the stockings. I've never heard of the grandparents doing the stockings, so it would have been very odd if both your MIL and your FIL had grandparents who did it.

I would have a ban on them being there on Christmas Day if they were going to act like the parents. This is your first Christmas with your baby - don't let them spoil it.

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shinynewusername · 01/12/2015 12:58

I doubt they think they are being kind and generous. That would mean they are thinking they are helping the OP. Demanding hair and telling OP what is what is not being kind and generous. I think all they are focused on is what they want, which is to be some sort of surrogate parent to their DGC

You are missing the point. There is a disconnect between what they think they are doing and what they are actually doing.

I am not defending them or saying that I think they are simply being kind & generous. But I can promise you that - in their own minds - that is their motive. The more controlling people are, the stronger the psychological justifications they create for their behaviours. I bet you all the Brew in China that the GP react as if the OP is ungratefully throwing their altruistic generosity in their faces. She needs to be prepared for this reaction or they will guilt her into letting them do what they want.

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DrasticAction · 01/12/2015 13:01

red put it all beautifully

Op its NOT normal behaviour in terms of acceptable behaviour but its very normal mad GP behaviour.

They will take a mile if you let them.

You need to start t assert yourself, no one can do this for you.

well your dh can be the conduit. Howe ever YOU need to start saying to him, I am not happy with x, so stop it, get it stopped.

You have to take the reigns, no one can do it for you!

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DrasticAction · 01/12/2015 13:01

She needs to be prepared for this reaction or they will guilt her into letting them do what they want

absolutely.

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Moomintroll85 · 01/12/2015 13:14

Most of it sounds like over excited grandparents tbh, a bit much yes, especially the stocking which I would draw the line at.

But From just a few weeks old they wanted to have her 'on their own' for an afternoon every week.

Errr a few weeks old ? While that might work for some people if offered, that is not something that can be demanded! No way was I going to be leaving my DS anywhere for an afternoon when he was a few weeks old! Confused Hmm

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PlummyBrummy · 01/12/2015 13:15

God, it's hard work isn't it? I'm non-confrontational too so I actively avoid shouting about stuff like this but, with respect to PPs, I don't think it's as easy as saying 'fuck off'. This stuff happens in spits and spots that, at the time, it'd be weird to say no to but it slowly builds up. There might be big infractions from time to time but they're just pushing the envelope wider for later piss-takes. I'm not sue whether they really think about what they're doing or they're so assured by the rightness of their position that it justifies any action of theirs in their minds. It'll carry on as long as you let it though, so you'll need to grit your teeth and start fending them off now or prepare for a really huge blow up when you do have a show down in time to come.

For context I have a bit of this with my DM whom I haven't got on well with for a long time. I thought things were getting better when I had DD1 but after a huge fall out recently I realise that she must have thought she could start all over again but with my DDs. During our argument her only concern was getting access to 'her' grandchildren on her terms which I had to really stamp on. She also used the de facto childcare she'd come to provide once a week as a kind of bargaining tool to force me to comply. It's really messed up and though she's come back from her huge flounce off and reinstigated contact, I feel like it's providing contact for an unpleasant ex-p. So if I can advise anything, OP, it's to put your foot down now to save later heartache. Sad

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DisappointedOne · 01/12/2015 13:23

Line crossed. A stocking is parents only because of Santa. Anything more then requires Santa explaining and ruins it for her. Unacceptable

Do you realise how crazy most of you sound with this stuff?

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LagunaBubbles · 01/12/2015 13:23

Wanting to develop a relationship with your Grand child is normal - but "demanding" anything is not and needs to be addressed. However Just tell her to fuck off advice I dont think is particularly helpful is this is still your husbands parents - if my DH told my Mum for example to "fuck off" regardless of who was at fault I would be really upset and these type of things can cause family rifts for years.

Regarding the cot and pram, I dont think there is anything "Hand that wants to rock the cradle" about this, my Mum had this plus a highchair at her house when my boys were small. Just made things easier.

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LagunaBubbles · 01/12/2015 13:25

A stocking is parents only because of Santa. Anything more then requires Santa explaining and ruins it for her. Unacceptable

Theres another thread running about this at the moment full of this precious "MY CHILD MY RIGHT" type thing. Mad.

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DisappointedOne · 01/12/2015 13:27

DD's first Xmas took place in November because that's when my parents were home from abroad. She had 2 small stockings - one from us, one from them. Not one of the next 4 happened on 25th Dec, not one involved Santa, she's had 2 stockings each time. THE WORLD DID NOT END. Seriously, this stuff shouldn't matter!

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hellsbells99 · 01/12/2015 13:32

My mum always does a stocking for my 2 DDs to give them on Xmas day - I think it is lovely. I always do them a stocking from Santa (although they are 17 & 18 😉). I always welcomed any help I could get to have a couple of hours off when they were little (wasn't very often as DM had cancer and FIL was also very poorly). Let them enjoy their DGD but just make sure you stay in control where you need to.

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NoSquirrels · 01/12/2015 13:33

If you don't involve the Santa/Father Christmas myth in your celebrations of Christmas then of course it doesn't matter at all how many stockings or who they come from, as they're purely symbolic.

But if you are telling the story of FC and how he delivers one stocking on Christmas Eve to every boy and girl - and your aim to make your DC believe in the "magic" element of that - then of course an extra stocking messes up the narrative somewhat!

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FrustratedStepMum · 01/12/2015 13:36

I feel so much for people with horrifying in laws. My in laws are no longer a part of my life - due to a huge issue questioning my fil being a risk to kids but that's another story - before that came to light though my mil who only had a child because 'that's what married couples do' and was never very maternal toward my DH tried sticking her nose in cos I was a first time mum. Even though she knew I had 3 siblings under the age of ten, all of whom id looked after and babysat since being 16, and came from a much bigger and more involved family than her. She actually SMACKED my DDs hand once when she lashed out at about 15 months old - I think back now and wished I'd fucking smacked her one but the look I gave her said it I think. She tried telling me what to feed her, what clothes to get her, and spat her dummy out because I refused to let her give her her first hair cut ( she USED to be a hairdresser but was very out of practice and had fucked my fringe up once) she was simply awful. I only ever tried with her for my DH but he wised up very suddenly and quickly. Nip this in the bud OP nothing is worse than feeling like a mother in law is controlling your life and especially your child's! My mum wouldn't dream of it!!

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shinynewusername · 01/12/2015 13:37

she must have thought she could start all over again but with my DDs

I think this is very common in GPs, as is trying to over-correct for what they see in flaws in their own parents (as we all do of course). So, if the GP feel that their own parents took little interest in GC, or never helped out, they overcompensate. Kind but firm boundary- and expectation-setting helps everyone and works for GP who are genuinely trying to do the right thing as well as controlling GP like those in the OP. What is makes things worse is if the poor person in the OP's situation grits her teeth and puts off saying anything because 'they are only trying to help' till things get out of hand and then ends up completely losing it, so that it ends in a massive bust-up. Christmas Day lunch is the traditional time for losing it, as nothing takes the heat out of an emotional situation like an undercooked turkey, overexcited kids, too much wine and a massive sugar rush from eating Quality Street for breakfast Xmas Wink

It is very difficult to keep emotions out of these situations but, if at all possible, the OP & DP should find a non-Noel time when everyone is calm, acknowledge the GPs' love for the GC and their generosity but explain the boundaries. OP & DP should decide in advance on what they are happy to share with GPs and what are non-negotiables and stick to this whatever happens. It would be great if the DP feels able to do this alone but not if he is going to cave under pressure. It may be better to present a united front.

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clockbuscanada · 01/12/2015 13:38

Laguna While we thought MIL was looking after our 5 yo at home a couple of weeks ago, she took her out to a toy shop and explained that Santa doesn't bring the presents, Grandma does, and then let her come home with half the shop, which is now being saved at Grandma's until Christmas Day.

I only found out in a shopping centre on Saturday when DD explained to me that Santa was pretend, Grandma told her. No doubt you think me being annoyed by this is precious, but it's really taken the shine off Christmas for me. I didn't have a good time over Christmas as a kid so this was my chance to kind of have a fun Christmas with my own little family. Mind you, me being an unreasonable DIL would rather we all said Father Christmas, but that's small fry now.

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Hygge · 01/12/2015 13:42

clock that's terrible, I would have been furious.

Can you tell your DD that grandma was drunk, and confused and obviously on the naughty list if Santa doesn't come to her house so she has to buy presents for herself.

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ShebaShimmyShake · 01/12/2015 13:44

My mother has toys for the grandkids at her place so that they've got something novel to look forward to when they're there; I don't see a problem with that, or with the photos (though it would be nice if they had you in a few of them too!). I don't see anything wrong with the Christmas stockings either, just as long as your stocking is the first one they see and know about, the primary one, and then perhaps a "and here's one from Grandma and Grandpa too" afterwards. I had several stockings as a kid and it just made me happier - more presents, more family loving me!

It's the demanding days with her on their terms that bothers me.

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NoSquirrels · 01/12/2015 13:46

Oh clock, how evil of her.

At 5 you can still manipulate her to believe, should you so desire? After all, how SILLY is Grandma! How can Grandma POSSIBLY be Santa, and buy all the toys for all the children all over the world? What about those children that DON'T have grandparents or parents to do it for them? Father Christmas believes in everyone, even if Grandma doesn't believe in magic. . .

Then you just need to figure out what is the one small thing (present-wise) that Grandma couldn't know about (as passing fancy or something ridiculous she's mentioned ages ago but forgotten a bit about) for FC to bring in the stocking on Christmas Eve. Together with a lot of wide-eyed innocent exclamations about how on earth could he have known that was what you really wanted etc .. .

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shinynewusername · 01/12/2015 13:46

he took her out to a toy shop and explained that Santa doesn't bring the presents, Grandma does

Xmas Shock Xmas Shock Xmas Shock

I would be absolutely livid. How dare she?

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BertrandRussell · 01/12/2015 13:54

Children are much more stupid accepting than you think. Mine never had the slightest difficulty accepting that Father Christmas left stockings for them at the grandparents houses as well as the one he left ar our house for Christmas morning.

Unless grandparents are actively unpleasant, just let them get on with it. Children can't have too much love in their lives. But they also pick up on atmosphere and it is really really wrong to put them in a position where they feel guilty about loving Granny because mum gets all tight lipped about her. What's more important-a loving relationship between grandparent and grandchild that will last for years, or a Christmas stocking that lasts 10 minutes.?

Oh, and "our little family" is a real red flag too.

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scallopsrgreat · 01/12/2015 13:56

You DH needs to set the boundaries. They are his parents and his responsibility. Why is he not doing this?

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