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... To be upset with my friends?

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MarmiteAndButter · 21/11/2015 13:07

We are expats and as such friendships are perhaps more intense and important than it would be at home.
We are very good friends with two other local couples and often do things as a six some. We are all outgoing and a bit hedonistic. Childcare is no problem as we have maids we can leave the children with on an evening when they are asleep so we can go out a lot. We also do things with the children too I hasten to add, and this is important.
My youngest daughter is friends with couple b's only child. They go to the same school and play at the playground together most evenings before supper. They are very similar in personality. Tbh they are both "spirited children" and tend to be a bit noisy together at parties.
The six of us have a whatsapp group where we send jokes and discuss events and things we have planned.
Sometimes we also do things as a foursome in the different combinations, but it is always something the other couple wouldn't like, for example the non native English speaking couple didn't come and watch a British comedian with us as it wouldn't be funny to them.
Yesterday afternoon and night though couples B and C had a large BBQ with lots of other people and loss of kids. And they didn't invite us. Deliberately so. The kids started earlier and swam first.
I don't know why exactly we weren't invited other than their daughter had a strop about my daughter and didn't want her there. But who lets a small child dictate what adults attend? And with so many people there were lots of other options for them to play with if they really were having a tiff.
I felt very hurt tbh as I had been alone all week with DH working abroad and I felt so relaxed and happy in our mutual friendship, I wouldn't ever have guessed we'd be cut out of something.
I know catering for a few more or less would not have been the issue.
I had a bit of a cry about it actually as I felt it was a bit mean of them. Of course they are free to invite or not whomever they like, but it seemed to be just so deliberate that I was shocked about it. Earlier occasions this sort of thing happened, it sort of happened by accident and more spontaneously and I shrugged it off as nothing personal. But this time wasn't.
In the evening I took both me and DH off the whatsapp group.
I know that was petty of me and I feel awful about it now. I wish I hadn't.
Nobody has said anything about it since.
How do I say I regret having a flounce? Should I just leave it for now as a bit of a break might be the best thing? Like a week or so?
The idea of never doing anything with them again makes me feel sad.
We DO have other friends, but not as close. I am also friendly with loads more I occasionally socialise with, like school mums.
Tbh it's been a day and I miss them and what we had already 😔 I wish I hadn't have been so petty as I am ready to just laugh it off today. But I still don't really understand why they did that.

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MrsSchadenfreude · 23/11/2015 08:13

I do find expat friendships weird though. Having been an expat for most of my adult life (first moved overseas for work just after my 22nd birthday), I would say that the vast majority of close friendships don't last. Yes, those people you saw every day, went out to dinner with etc etc. We had friends like this in Nigeria, thought we would be friends for ever after three years living in each other's pocket/house. We met up once in London, exchanged Christmas cards for two years, and that was it. Like fine wine, the friendship didn't travel well. Same in Belgium. Had fabulous expat neighbours there, same neighbours for five years. One was very honest with me and said she never kept in touch with expat friends, but if I ever came back to Belgium, she would be delighted to see me. The others relocated, got one email to let us know their new address, and never heard from them again. This isn't just me, it's really not unusual, particularly with people who move around a lot.

MarmiteAndButter · 23/11/2015 15:49

MrsSchadenfreude I find many relationships weird though. I would never have had the sort of family relationship where I phoned home every day. I read on here on daughters that do several times a day. Ditto MIL issues, they simply bewilder me Hmm
I have had so many amazing friends I would call on way before I thought to call the little family I have.
My best friend lives a long way away now, but we see each other in the summers and we are each other's children's godparents. You don't have to say farewell to everyone.

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Strokethefurrywall · 23/11/2015 17:08

As an expat (albeit in a hot and bbq part of the western Caribbean) I can attest to all of this.

Not that I've fallen out or anything with friends, but that friendships are certainly more intense here. I assume this is because we are all each other's substitute families.

Certainly when my brother died, my friends here were amazing. They looked after me, they sheltered me, they carried me, they went out of their way to make me feel loved and I will cherish them always, even though 9 out of 10 of the couples we were that close to have left. I miss them all. We all arrived at the same time, all as singles, or as young couples, we all got married and had babies here at the same time and we were a support network.

That's why I think a social snub is so much more than that when it's in this type of friendship network. Because there is a reason behind it rather than "they forgot". And it would greatly upset me too and I would be very worried that I had done something wrong.

And of course the expat community in most places can be the epitome of a goldfish bowl, so the concern that everyone knows that you may have fucked up is there!

Just wanted to chime in and say that there's another one here who understands Smile

MarmiteAndButter · 23/11/2015 18:02

Thank you strokethefurrywall. Yup, these are my feelings.
It is more than just forgetfulness.
I am sad actually.
But hey, will pick myself off and dust myself off and carry on.
Thank you.
I am so sorry about your brother and I can't imagine what that was like 😞

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AllOutOfNaiceHam · 05/12/2015 15:02

marmite did you get things worked out?

MarmiteAndButter · 05/12/2015 17:37

So you know what? I fell on my sword. I apologised to everyone for having a strop.
And I hope we can all move on.
I am slightly holding back, I have to say. I have doubts now.
But we had a great night together a few nights ago, so maybe
And no, I never got a reason 😔

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StealthPolarBear · 05/12/2015 18:05

Is this really what expat life is like? Basically middle aged students - drinking heavily, clubbing ...when does anyone do any work?
Sounds like fun for a week or two but not sure I could keep up any longer!!

TheDowagerCuntess · 05/12/2015 18:38

Glad you seem to have been able to put it behind you.

I am intrigued to know how you know their daughter had a strop with your daughter - it didn't seem like you were privy to any information on why you'd been excluded, but yet this information did manage to reach you.

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