To be sad 32% of children near me are in poverty?

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www.nomorekidsinpoverty.uk/ how about you?

How can this be acceptable??

It says 19% where I am.
It is WAY higher than that - my area is really deprived.

33.09% doesn't surprise me. In fact I'm more surprised it's not higher.

We live in an area where the Tories got over 80% of the vote, 20% of children are living in poverty. I'm guessing that they are the 20% who don't vote Tory.

Ours is 29%. This includes this town and the next town however I'm sure the number within this town is higher as the other town is much more affluent...
The numbers are meaningless. Much better are the FSM numbers but even they are under-reported

I believe the boundaries for poverty are set when people are unable to access things which would allow them to be included in mainstream society.
That sounds fine but what are "those things"? Are you in poverty if you can't afford broadband? Don't have a car?

49.13 which seems insane. Still lots of social hosing here and private rents are sky high. Does rent to income come into the calculation?

27 % here I thought it would be higher, still very depressing.

It's relative poverty though, nothing like absolute poverty where there is no shelter and little food like Africa etc.

The CPAG states 35% of children classed as being in relative poverty are in families of three or more children.

65% of children only have one parent working (weirdly it doesn't state the amount in households where no one works).

They also class not having a holiday as being in poverty, which is simply outrageous. Since when did that kind of luxury and non essential become an indicator of poverty?

People don't help themselves. It's simple enough to understand that the more children the less money to go round and not earning a salary means less for the household.

we are now living in social housing and receiving some benefits i gave up work to be a carer for my disabled child i wouldnt say we are poor though and although our income is quite a lot less than it was so is our rent and utilities so how exactly are we defining poverty?

Hi Autumn wondered how long it would be

18.2% here, rural Scotland though.

I'm in a smallish city in Scotland--it's about 25%. I'm surprised it's that low as we have 40% unemployment. Maybe because housing here is plentiful and fairly cheap makes it easier for people

It is less than 15% here. Ideally no one would ever be living in poverty, but that will never happen so I think less than 15% is not bad.

But autumn's basic point is valid--how does this survey define poverty? I'm on my phone and finding it hard to navigate around the site for more info.

15.6

20% here, which is kind of what I would have expected. I live in the SE, in an area where people have moved out of London for affordable housing. It's not an area where there is visible poverty really.

Autumn has a point - the definition of poverty would be helpful.

I was shocked at first but having looked at the definition of poverty we would be in poverty if we had more than 2 children so now, I don't know what to think.

mine to Lux are you in the northwest?

The report in that link says it uses estimated data and defines poverty as living in a household with less than 60% median income. Depending on which figures you believe, median income is approx £23K.

I do think the definition of poverty has become a bit skewed and that a lot of people could take more responsibility for their own lives.

Definition of poverty is a family with an income led than 60% of median income.
Eg: in 2004, 10 years ago, a couple with 2 kids earning less than £268 a week classed as "in poverty" bearing in mind that £268 was after tax and after housing costs (Rent or mortgage) and after council tax.

In the year 2004/2005, the 60% threshold was worth £100 per week for a single adult, £183 per week for a two adult household, £186 per week for a single adult living with two children and £268 per week for two adults living with two children. This sum of money is after income tax and national insurance have been deducted from earnings and after council tax, rent, mortgage and water charges have been paid. It is therefore what a household has available to spend on everything else it needs.[45]- Wikipedia

25.85% here, including my child. I bet it's higher in my immediate area though.

I'm "in poverty". We have a warm house, food, car and basic sky package (no freeview here due to location). No holidays and I check the price of everything.

To me at my level of "poverty" it's more about price-checking vs value compared to the school mum in front of me in the shop today who swiped £93 on tinsel/crackers/etc without having to think about it.

There are definitely "levels" of poverty.