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To think today was not the day to try and out liberal each other

144 replies

LunchpackOfNotreDame · 14/11/2015 22:37

I have some painfully 'right on' types on my Facebook, the sort that make mumsnet look positively right wing.

A few are trying so hard to be 'right on' in their, not anti Paris but I can't think of how else to put it, they're being down right offensive. They are showing such contempt for people being shocked and saddened by the events in Paris that in their rush to do so they're just coming across as utter cunts.

Aibu to think some subjects you just don't do that with?

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Hovis2001 · 15/11/2015 18:22

And sending all best wishes and thoughts that the people you care for are safe.

PinkSparklyPussyCat · 15/11/2015 18:57

Thanks Hovis. Fingers crossed they are ok, and obviously their family and friends.

I hate the world at the moment.

captainproton · 15/11/2015 19:20

To be honest apart from people who know me really well, I doubt my Facebook friends would realise as a white English person that I have family who live in a middle eastern country, one of the few who take refugees, and that 2 other close family members lived in Beirut and Egypt but they had to leave, I don't know anyone that well with a strong connection to France. I personally have not spent much time in France. So to me I don't see much of a difference but I can appreciate it's not the same for others. So when my family post articles about their former/current countries of residence I like to show support.

I also think it serves to remind those who get caught up in the hysteria that a lot more Muslims are being killed in the name of their religion in this world than us westerners. I'm sick of reading racist and islamophobic Facebook posts and stupid Britain First style memes, I take offence and don't think it should be excused either because of Paris.

I care about Paris of course I do, I am frightened that my family face a backlash for being Muslim because of this. It's not their fault and if someone wants to defriend me because I like to post stuff that 99% of Muslims in this world are just like the rest of us and live in just as much fear and that going off the deep end is not going to help at all, then go ahead defriend me.

It's not competitive liberalism, for some possibly but unless you know every soul on your Facebook friend list be careful not to judge too harshly.

People also need to remember that it is much easier for western media to cover western events, when they happen on your doorstep them events are broadcast live. It's not the same in the Middle East.

Alisvolatpropiis · 15/11/2015 19:45

I saw a well meaning post (which had been shared over 3000 times) which was stating that the big concern now is that people will increasingly stop diffrientiating between Terrorists and Muslims and purely focus on Europeans. But millions of Europeans are Muslims. So even when meaning well, there is othering going on.

StarOnTheTree · 15/11/2015 21:45

It's ridiculous to suggest that doing that for Paris means you don't care about the rest of the world and actually quite offensive I think to suggest people don't care about other things.

I agree Mandatory and I really hate it when other people 'know' how I'm thinking and feeling about stuff because obviously they don't!!

I changed my pic and I hate Britain First. The thought that my British Muslim friends could be seen as being responsible by association makes me shudder.

SettlinginNicely · 16/11/2015 16:01

This article puts it nicely for me.

www.huffingtonpost.com/lev-raphael/paris-beirut-and-grief-sh_b_8572752.html

shins · 18/11/2015 07:25

I had to back away from Facebook because of the self-righteous twattery. No I didn't change my pic but I know and love Paris and did really not have the stomach for the competitive finger-wagging. Yes, what happened in Beirut was terrible but I'm 100% certain no-one I know would have mentioned it if the Paris attack hadn't happened. I mean there was an even worse attack in Ankara a couple of weeks ago and none of them gave a shit.

Helmetbymidnight · 18/11/2015 07:54

My FB gets worse and worse.

The Kenya atrocity (that happened in April and yes I was aware/and distressed by it)

Beirut but no Russian airplane.

The Muslim security guard (many Muslims were murdered/and res cued others in the Paris attacks but this story 'you won't hear about' was not true)

And er Palestine. Relevance? Not sure - they're just making a point (Israelis are shit?) that makes them look like an arse.

Ubik1 · 18/11/2015 08:03

Palestine is relevant - sort of - France has recognised it as a country.

Helmetbymidnight · 18/11/2015 08:05

So two days after the terror attacks on Paris, you write loads of stuff about Palestine because France recognised it as a country?

Okay.

cleaty · 18/11/2015 08:43

What I really object to is those posting conspiracy theories. Apparently the attacks in Paris were planned by western Governments to justify the anti refugee laws they are going to put into place. I have absolutely no time for rubbish like this.

Alisvolatpropiis · 18/11/2015 20:27

cleaty I've seen a particularly mad woman on Twitter putting about that the Paris attacks are a hoax and all part of a "Zionist plot". Ffs!

EnaSharplesHairnet · 18/11/2015 20:49

An Iranian cleric is reported as saying it's an inside job (by the French government I presume?)

Timri · 18/11/2015 20:52

Didn't the Nazis claim that with the Jews?

Helmetbymidnight · 18/11/2015 20:57

The mumsnet conspiracy theorists have already started no doubt.

I've spent the day telling off people on FB who've posted tributes to Jonah lomu- I mean how can they? Sheep. People die all the time.

Washediris · 18/11/2015 20:57

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EnaSharplesHairnet · 18/11/2015 21:09

Yes and I heard that called grief shaming on here, which sums it up.

Helmetbymidnight · 18/11/2015 21:23

Yeah it's like those who care about to comment on Jonah lomu didn't say a single word about Sanjeev kapor- racists?

SettlinginNicely · 18/11/2015 21:53

I thought Ed West in the Evening Standard had some good points. Not just about the "Tragedy Hipsters," but thoughts about the home grown problem that we have in Europe.

www.standard.co.uk/comment/comment/ed-west-comforts-of-the-west-have-let-radicalism-grow-a3117351.html

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